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Saturday, January 19, 2008

MSNBC: Robinson: KNOCKS ON SELIG ARE OFF-BASE

“But in this nation, the world’s greatest democracy, there is nothing they can do to prevent me from being punished for a crime they know I did not commit. Some who have called have said that I am a modern-day Job."… R. Budd Selig then returns to the podium and pulls out a .357 Magnum revolver.

Some words from the Oakland Tribune jumped off the page: “During Selig’s 15-plus years on the job…MLB has...accepting, if not embracing, rampant use of performance-enhancing steroids.” Now this is one man’s opinion, albeit remarkably uninformed and irresponsible. I say that because I worked for the Giants and closely with Barry Bonds—a player at the heart of BALCO during the early years in question—and I know of no one who accepted or embraced steroids among management, ownership and staff. There were, however, suspicions and an unwillingness to “turn over the rock.”

I believe baseball was victimized by its own culture—one not unlike the military in which loyalty trumps all. There is no room in baseball for a whistle-blower. What the sport desperately needed was a Deep Throat. Oh, by the way, who made Deep Throat? Two reporters Woodward and Bernstein. So when I read a columnist trashing Selig, calling him the “Steroids Commissioner,” I want to ask if that writer ever tried to investigate the use of performance-enhancing drugs in baseball. I was in the game as a broadcaster and did nothing. Did this writer snoop, ask questions, or try to follow in the lead of a Woodward or Bernstein? Or is it just too comfortable to sit back and blast away after the fact?

Repoz Posted: January 19, 2008 at 05:17 PM | 17 comment(s)
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   1. X-Roid User  Posted: January 19, 2008 at 05:52 PM (#2672016)
That R. Budd Dwyer video might be the best of all-time...
   2. TVerik and his cavalcade of whimsy  Posted: January 19, 2008 at 06:53 PM (#2672085)
Selig is a "steroids commissioner" the way that Bill Clinton was an "economy president". While he had more power over the 'roids (and Willie had more power over the US Economy) than I did, I'm not willing to entirely provide either credit or blame over a seachange like that to the man in charge.

Bud should (and will, IMO) be judged on the Wild Card, interleague play, and a few other things. In my opinion, those two have been unmitigated disasters. But I'm not writing the history book, and it's probably too early to really evaluate those things anyway.
   3. JJ1986  Posted: January 19, 2008 at 07:07 PM (#2672096)
Long after Selig retires or dies, my lasting memory of him won't be interleague play or the wild card or even the canceled all-star game. It won't be steroids, because I don't care about them. It won't be the steroid witch hunt that he's presiding over now. No, what I'll remember is that the egomaniac issued more than one press release about whether he was planning on personally attending the game where Bonds broke Aaron's record. And I'll remember the look on his face as he sat there and clearly showed that he didn't care about baseball at all.
   4. The Clarence Thomas of BTF (scott)  Posted: January 19, 2008 at 09:20 PM (#2672163)
people here are ridiculous. if this were the 1950's you'd all would ##### and moan about expansion teams.
   5. TVerik and his cavalcade of whimsy  Posted: January 19, 2008 at 09:26 PM (#2672169)
if this were the 1950's you'd all would ##### and moan about expansion teams.

Don't even get me started on expansion teams.

And integration? Horrible idea.

scott, I'm prepared for history to prove me really wrong. But at this point, my best judgment is that these were bad ideas. I said it at the time, and I plan on continuing to say it until the day I die.

I'm not against all progress, just dumb progress.
   6. Dan The Mediocre  Posted: January 19, 2008 at 09:28 PM (#2672170)
Selig is a "steroids commissioner" the way that Bill Clinton was an "economy president". While he had more power over the 'roids (and Willie had more power over the US Economy) than I did, I'm not willing to entirely provide either credit or blame over a seachange like that to the man in charge.


I think a better analogy would be a prison warden under whom the inmates are routinely abused. Sure, he didn't tell them to, nor did he know about specific incidents, but he did turn a blind eye to it.

Selig now seems to want to show that he doesn't like steroids, but in the end he didn't really do much about it. I don't think he deserves lots of blame for it, but he was what we would call an "enabler".
   7. TVerik and his cavalcade of whimsy  Posted: January 19, 2008 at 09:34 PM (#2672175)
I dunno, DTM. The warden theoretically has direct authority over the abuse and can stop it by snapping his fingers, if he wishes. As far as I've followed the story, Bud has never had real power over this epidemic. Without public and congressional pressure, I don't think he could have convinced the union to adopt testing.

I think that for your example to work well, MLB (unbeknonst to Selig) would be administering illegal steroids to its players.
   8. Yankee_Redneck  Posted: January 19, 2008 at 11:45 PM (#2672277)
people here are ridiculous. if this were the 1950's you'd all would ##### and moan about expansion teams.


No no no, I'm very happy Florida has two major league teams playing in empty stadiums with the successful teams of the league forced to subsidize them to the tune of hundreds of millions. The more the merrier, I always say.
   9. David Nieporent (now, with child)  Posted: January 19, 2008 at 11:59 PM (#2672284)
people here are ridiculous. if this were the 1950's you'd all would ##### and moan about expansion teams.
I didn't ##### and moan about expansion in the 1990s, when there were expansion teams. But I do ##### and moan about interleague play and the wild card, which fundamentally alter the nature of the season.
   10. AJM  Posted: January 20, 2008 at 12:07 AM (#2672287)
I like this setup better than the two division setup.

Interleague I could do without.
   11. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Marching Through Georgia  Posted: January 20, 2008 at 12:08 AM (#2672290)
people here are ridiculous. if this were the 1950's you'd all would ##### and moan about expansion teams.

I didn't ##### and moan about expansion in the 1990s, when there were expansion teams.


I don't p & m about expansion in general, but it's hard to think of two less suitable cities for Major League Baseball than Miami and St. Petersburg. Selig would've been better off just putting two more teams in New York and giving those few thousand stalwart Florida fans free lifetime Trailways passes.
   12. David Nieporent (now, with child)  Posted: January 20, 2008 at 12:25 AM (#2672298)
I don't p & m about expansion in general, but it's hard to think of two less suitable cities for Major League Baseball than Miami and St. Petersburg. Selig would've been better off just putting two more teams in New York and giving those few thousand stalwart Florida fans free lifetime Trailways passes.
Look, I agree that those two franchises haven't exactly worked out very well, from a business perspective (the Marlins have 2 WS titles, obviously). But nobody should pretend that they knew in advance that these cities were "unsuitable." Everyone thought Miami would be a great choice. And, frankly, it looked fine until Huizenga demolished the '98 team, destroying the momentum they had built up.

If either team had had a better owner that was willing to invest money in the team -- including in a stadium -- there's no reason to think they couldn't have been successful as franchises go. Tampa in particular plays in a horrid stadium and has averaged almost 100 losses per year over their entire existence, with their best season being 70 wins. That they haven't drawn many fans doesn't say that expansion was a mistake. It says that hiring Chuck LaMar was a mistake. (Two words: Kevin Stocker.)
   13. baudib  Posted: January 20, 2008 at 01:33 AM (#2672330)
Bud is obviously the most effective and influential commissioner in the history of the game.
   14. BeanoCook  Posted: January 20, 2008 at 03:04 AM (#2672344)
The Florida baseball TV market can't be ignored, when these 2 teams actually get to play in real baseball facilities, then we will know if it works or not. I think it will, but TV sets are more important in FLA than filled seats.
   15. Baseball Hot Corner  Posted: January 20, 2008 at 08:15 AM (#2672352)
"They know the business of the game has never been better and that is what the commissioner is supposed to safeguard."
Interesting, I thought safeguarding integrity and credibility was in the job description.
   16. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong  Posted: January 20, 2008 at 08:35 AM (#2672356)
Oh, by the way, who made Deep Throat? Two reporters Woodward and Bernstein. So when I read a columnist trashing Selig, calling him the “Steroids Commissioner,” I want to ask if that writer ever tried to investigate the use of performance-enhancing drugs in baseball.

Wait, so Selig shouldn't be held accountable for turning a blind eye to PEDs because no one outside baseball blew the whistle? So this means Watergate (and the culture of the government apparatus serving the personal needs of the president) wasn't Nixon's fault either. It was just good reporting that made everything work out the way it was supposed to.
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