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Sunday, August 05, 2007

Mythbusters to do Episode on Baseball Myths

An intersection of spheres, at 9 PM EST this Wednesday:

Roger Clemens, perhaps baseball’s greatest living pitcher, joins the gang to take on the national pastime as only the Mythbusters can.

Dag Nabbit Posted: August 05, 2007 at 01:27 PM | 64 comment(s)
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   1. aleskel Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:24 PM (#2472021)
baseball, AND mythbusters?

excuse me, I think I just had a nerdgasm
   2. Craig K Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:25 PM (#2472022)
I think I'm a bit turned on by this news.
   3. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:26 PM (#2472023)
Adam and Jamie investigate whether or not it's possible to bust out of jail using only salsa


Glad I got TiVo, so I can record both of these.
   4. Craig K Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:29 PM (#2472026)
Adam and Jamie investigate whether or not it's possible to bust out of jail using only salsa

That's an old one.

SPOILER:
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Yes, it's possible; the effect is greatly increased when Jamie uses electrolysis on the salsa.
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/spoiler
   5. Sparkles Peterson Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:41 PM (#2472040)
When did Discovery bring back Junkyard Wars re-runs?
   6. H_Vaughn08 Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:43 PM (#2472042)
Clemens meets Adam and Jamie. That has the feel of the Iron Sheik guest-hosting Bill Moyer's Journal. Are they going to make a ballistics gel mock-up of Piazza's head and see if Rog can chuck a Louisville Slugger fragment through it?
   7. McCoy Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:46 PM (#2472044)
So what myths are still around that need to be busted? Rising fastball? Cold/Hot ball perhaps? Corked bat?
   8. AJMacaroni Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:46 PM (#2472045)
Awesome!
   9. TFTIO Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:49 PM (#2472051)
A pitcher has no control over balls in play?

/ducks
   10. TVerik, the world’s No. 1 hydrogen dirigible Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:50 PM (#2472053)
I think this is a great show. But I'm dismayed by the Roger Clemens stuntcasting.

I think they're finally going to take "chemistry" down a notch. And clutch hitting, too!
   11. Does Aaron Hill Have To Smack A Pitch? Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:51 PM (#2472054)
Corked bat?

That's gotta be one of them.
And maybe they'll talk about curve balls?
Or possibly even the legends/myths of home runs being hit 650 feet?
   12. Sparkles Peterson Posted: August 05, 2007 at 02:55 PM (#2472058)
Humidor and Mantle's 9000 foot HR would be my choices.
   13. Monty Posted: August 05, 2007 at 03:07 PM (#2472071)
Random Transaction Generator's list sounds reasonable to me. But I bet they come up with a way to work an explosion into a baseball myth. Oh! Maybe "different ways to juice a ball"!
   14. Craig K Posted: August 05, 2007 at 03:08 PM (#2472074)
They're based in SF, so "Do steroids really help you become a better player?"
   15. Greg Franklin Posted: August 05, 2007 at 03:25 PM (#2472090)
Monty, you're closer than you think. Back in the early pre-planning days of the show, the producers were trolling Usenet for hints and suggestions for episodes. They loved the field of urban folklore and the huge library of legends waiting to be debunked, but emphasized that only the stories involving an explosion (or similar visual pop) were guaranteed to make it to the show.

I say Mythbusters, MST3K, Iron Chef, MXC, and baseball are the only TV programming you need to watch to understand the world.
   16. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 05, 2007 at 03:58 PM (#2472116)
Mythbusters is a great show. I loved the episode where they debunked Ben Franklin's electricity experiment (he did it, but he was certainly not flying the kite himself).
   17. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: August 05, 2007 at 04:09 PM (#2472133)
Well, he wasn't stoopid!
   18. Roy Hobbs of WIFFLE Ball Posted: August 05, 2007 at 04:19 PM (#2472169)
With this group we have here, they'd better be more careful with their baseball math than their yawn math:


I've seen the show about three times and this was one of them. The understanding of numbers came off so bad, it killed their credibility with me. Maybe it was just a bad day and I should give it another chance.
   19. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 05, 2007 at 04:25 PM (#2472186)
They do revisit many of their earlier debunkings, so they might have or may take a look at that experiment again, Roy
   20. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 05, 2007 at 04:28 PM (#2472191)
Well, he wasn't stoopid!


Even as a little kid, I never understood how he wouldn't have been fried when the lightning bolt struck the kite. Yet, how many books and movies indicate that this is what Ben was doing around 250 years ago?
   21. McCoy Posted: August 05, 2007 at 04:47 PM (#2472233)
If I remember right they re-did the flaming boat experiment.
   22. baseball chick, now with lousy baseball team Posted: August 05, 2007 at 04:51 PM (#2472243)
i like mythbusters too

they should rename the show - all you ever wanted to know about men but didn't need to ask
   23. Jimmy P Posted: August 05, 2007 at 05:44 PM (#2472345)
As long as Kari's there, I'll watch
   24. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 05, 2007 at 06:03 PM (#2472388)
I don't care what they say, Cal Ripken saved baseball!
   25. Tommy Etelamaki Posted: August 05, 2007 at 06:14 PM (#2472425)
I hope they don't waste their time trying to prove that curveballs really curve. Everyone knows it's just an optical illusion!
   26. haven Posted: August 05, 2007 at 07:13 PM (#2472537)
Do rising fastballs really rise?
   27. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder. Posted: August 05, 2007 at 07:22 PM (#2472550)
My guess is that they will do the corked bat, the humidity thing, perhaps scuffing the ball, and hopefully dress Kari in something skimpy.
   28. Joe Bivens, Proud Union Member Posted: August 05, 2007 at 08:02 PM (#2472587)
Franklin wouldn't have gotten zapped by the lightning because the string would have been disintegrated by the electricity before it reached him.
   29. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: August 05, 2007 at 08:07 PM (#2472591)
haven:

If you google that question you will find multiple discussions of the topic.

Better to trust your own work than the word of some anonymous soul on the Internet. More invigorating as well.
   30. Robert S. Posted: August 05, 2007 at 08:14 PM (#2472605)
Franklin wouldn't have gotten zapped by the lightning because the string would have been disintegrated by the electricity before it reached him.

That can be explained by Franklin's will to win: He makes his teammates better.
   31. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 06, 2007 at 08:28 AM (#2473575)
How about:

thin bat handles vs. old-timey thicker handles

I was watching TV with my girlfriend when the ad came on. She said to me, "that will be the greatest day of your life, won't it?"
   32. TVerik, the world’s No. 1 hydrogen dirigible Posted: August 06, 2007 at 08:33 AM (#2473578)
I know that Bernal and I disagree on this, but I think that Kari is hotter in context than in real life. She uses welding goggles and such, and can build stuff.

She definitely brings sex appeal, but I think that if you took her out of the show, she's only moderately hot.
   33. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: August 06, 2007 at 08:59 AM (#2473599)
I was watching TV with my girlfriend when the ad came on. She said to me, "that will be the greatest day of your life, won't it?"

Can they manage to combine the explosion and Roger Clemens?
   34. Dan The Mediocre Posted: August 06, 2007 at 09:29 AM (#2473626)
I like the earlier shows when it was just Adam and Jamie. That involved building and creativity.

Now they have uninteresting things like "Can vodka do this?" which requires no real intelligence.

And I agree - Kari is hot because she builds things, otherwise she'd be just good looking.
   35. DCA Posted: August 06, 2007 at 09:56 AM (#2473647)
And I agree - Kari is hot because she builds things, otherwise she'd be just good looking.

I don't know. I never really thought Kari was that hot. Scottie was smoking though ... maybe Kari just suffers in comparison.
   36. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 06, 2007 at 09:58 AM (#2473653)
Now they have uninteresting things like "Can vodka do this?" which requires no real intelligence.

The popularity of the show has led to bigger budgets so they get to do things like the personal flying machine. I think these bigger projects tie up Adam and Jamie so they have to outsource some filler myth stuff to the other group.

I am hoping for some more cement mixer/explosives myths to be tested.
   37. Delino DeShields & Yarnell Posted: August 06, 2007 at 11:47 AM (#2473787)
I heard a radio interview of Adam and Jamie a month or so ago - they in no way are friends and make no bones about it. Probably makes for better science.

EDIT: Clemens will be testing the myth that the camera adds 100 lbs.
   38. aleskel Posted: August 06, 2007 at 11:53 AM (#2473790)
they in no way are friends and make no bones about it.

oh yeah, on the show you can tell that they can barely stand each other outside of their professional relationship. It makes for great TV.
   39. Harold Reynolds: An Erotic Life (AG#1F) Posted: August 06, 2007 at 12:24 PM (#2473816)

And I agree - Kari is hot because she builds things, otherwise she'd be just good looking.


I think she's hot
   40. McCoy Posted: August 06, 2007 at 12:31 PM (#2473821)
Put a dead rotting elephant in a push up bra in front of a trained cadre of photogs armed with the latest software and you will think you are looking at Barbi.
   41. Dan Szymborski Posted: August 06, 2007 at 12:41 PM (#2473839)
And I agree - Kari is hot because she builds things, otherwise she'd be just good looking.

I agree. Good-looking woman + likes to build things + makes realistic blood splatter and skull damage for dummies + helps makes big explosions = hot woman.
   42. AJMacaroni Posted: August 06, 2007 at 01:29 PM (#2473902)
Put a dead rotting elephant in a push up bra in front of a trained cadre of photogs armed with the latest software and you will think you are looking at Barbi.

...next on Mythbusters!
   43. Dan Szymborski Posted: August 06, 2007 at 02:34 PM (#2473971)
Put a dead rotting elephant in a push up bra in front of a trained cadre of photogs armed with the latest software and you will think you are looking at Barbi.

She's attractive on the show, too, and I don't think Discover Channel is spending a boatload of money on a makeover team for her.
   44. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: August 06, 2007 at 02:58 PM (#2473989)
F!@# all you haters, Kari is hot.
   45. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 06, 2007 at 03:14 PM (#2474007)
I don't think she's OMG hot, but she's certainly above my attractiveness bar.
   46. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 06, 2007 at 03:15 PM (#2474009)
Being smart and with a good personality doesn't hurt, either. :-)
   47. JMM Posted: August 06, 2007 at 03:28 PM (#2474024)
And I agree - Kari is hot because she builds things, otherwise she'd be just good looking.

So Kari is only hot because of the qualities that she possesses that help make her hot. As opposed to other hot women who are hot because of qualities they don't possess?
   48. baseball chick, now with lousy baseball team Posted: August 06, 2007 at 03:34 PM (#2474031)
kari is hot???

well, i see giant boobies, so i guess so

yall guys LIKE females who like to build things and uh, blow up (ahem) things not attached to your own personal bodies???
   49. AJMacaroni Posted: August 06, 2007 at 03:39 PM (#2474042)
i see giant boobies

And red hair.
   50. Swedish Chef Posted: August 06, 2007 at 03:51 PM (#2474058)
yall guys LIKE females who like to build things and uh, blow up (ahem) things not attached to your own personal bodies???


(Runs off to register hotties-in-hardhats.com)
   51. JMM Posted: August 06, 2007 at 03:55 PM (#2474061)
blow up (ahem) things not attached to your own personal bodies???

I can safely say that almost no men want things attatched to their own personal bodies blown up. Even most serious masochists would stop before that point.
   52. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: August 06, 2007 at 03:59 PM (#2474070)
yall guys LIKE females who like to build things and uh, blow up (ahem) things not attached to your own personal bodies???

Macha can be hot, yes. Not guaranteed, but it's a positive in any case.

(Not Ken Macha, wise guys.)
   53. baseball chick, now with lousy baseball team Posted: August 06, 2007 at 04:01 PM (#2474073)
AJM

yeh my husband likes redheads too.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
wonder why he likes mythbusters
here and i thought it was because of all the POW BLAM - uhhh, hey that was KEWL!!!! lets try dropping the dummy again POW BLAMMMMMMMM
KEWLLLLLLLL
hey kari, bendover when you pick that stuff up hunh




JMM

blow up meaning enLARGE

like a picture.

not explode. which is later.
   54. Loren F.'s well-anchored glenoid Posted: August 06, 2007 at 04:04 PM (#2474081)
Well, this thread has certainly taken a completely surprising turn.
   55. baseball chick, now with lousy baseball team Posted: August 06, 2007 at 04:10 PM (#2474092)
loren,

honey you GOT to have figured it out by now that males IF they can will talk about hot almost nekkid females if the subject, uh, comes UP because males thinkin bout that kind of stuff ALL the time.
   56. Loren F.'s well-anchored glenoid Posted: August 06, 2007 at 04:11 PM (#2474098)
I know. I'm male.
   57. baseball chick, now with lousy baseball team Posted: August 06, 2007 at 04:13 PM (#2474101)
loren,

oh. sorry. here and i was HOPING there was another grrrrl here so i would not feel so all alone.

anyhow, how can you be surprised with males lookin at females with giant boobies and thinkin bout, uh, things????
   58. Loren F.'s well-anchored glenoid Posted: August 06, 2007 at 04:22 PM (#2474118)
bc:

No prob. I like my name, and am used to 40 years of people seeing "Loren" and expecting female. And my comment about being surprised was meant in jest.

For the record, I have no opinion on Kari's hotness. In the photo linked above (and the photo shoot from which it was drawn), I do think part of the effect is that she's dressed in just a lab coat and underwear.
   59. JMM Posted: August 06, 2007 at 04:29 PM (#2474134)
JMM

blow up meaning enLARGE

like a picture.

not explode. which is later.


We don't want to compete with that either. Blow is a noun that needs to preposition with regard to what men want women to do with/around/near/etc them.
   60. McCoy Posted: August 06, 2007 at 10:52 PM (#2474572)
From the commercials it is going to be about corked bats, sliding vs running, and I can't remember exactly but something about pitching.
   61. McCoy Posted: August 09, 2007 at 01:56 AM (#2478344)
Saw the episode and it wasn't that great. They did the sliding\running thing but for whatever reason they thought the myth was sliding vs. coming to dead upright stop at a base you can't run through. The controversy as almost always had to do with sliding into first or running through it. They then did a pretty stupid Roger Clemens piece that did absolutely nothing. It is like the execs said they need to get a name in their or something to do the show so they stuck Clemens in their and had throw some pitches. They also shown what really really humid balls will do against really really dry balls. The best part about that is that they ended up saying "dry balls" like a million times. They did the corked bat thing and found that a ball coming off a corked bat comes off at half the speed that a normal bat does. Don't know if that is really true or not, nor do they do any kind of distance test with it. On top of that they don't do any tests to find out if a player swings a corked bat faster then he would if it was a normal bat.

Basically these guys knew absolutely nothing about baseball, it was like the execs said how do we get this other demographic to watch our show, I know will do a baseball special and will have a picture of Roger Clemens posted throughout. Brilliant!
   62. TFTIO Posted: August 09, 2007 at 01:59 AM (#2478347)
Shooting a ball at a bat at 437mph was pretty cool, though.

Pretty crappy episode, overall, though.
   63. TFTIO Posted: August 09, 2007 at 02:02 AM (#2478353)
The other thing was the weird wrongitude of the voiceover: Sosa was suspended for seven matches? Coming to you from the San Jose Giants' ground?

What are the hell?
   64. Danny Posted: August 09, 2007 at 04:34 AM (#2478390)
On top of that they don't do any tests to find out if a player swings a corked bat faster then he would if it was a normal bat.

Exactly. How did they not think of that?
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