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Friday, June 26, 2009

NBC Sports/Gleeman: Daily Dose - Cliff Lee can’t buy a win

Cliff Lee’s win-loss record has suffered from a lack of lineup and bullpen support all season and that continued Thursday night, as he got stuck with a no-decision despite tossing seven innings of two-run ball against the Pirates. Lee has thrown a Quality Start in 12 of his last 13 outings, with a 2.20 ERA and 69/21 K/BB ratio during that time, yet has just a 4-4 record to show for it.

He’s just 4-6 overall despite a 2.92 ERA after going 22-3 with a 2.54 ERA on the way to the AL Cy Young last year. With the Indians falling to 30-44 and a dozen games back in the AL Central rumors are starting to swirl that Lee may be on the trading block. General manager Mark Shapiro is believed to be holding out for an elite pitching prospect, but Lee’s poor record likely hurts his perceived value.

Baseball-Birthdays.com Posted: June 26, 2009 at 08:44 AM | 4 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Nightman Cometh Posted: June 26, 2009 at 01:04 PM (#3233953)
Lee’s poor record likely hurts his perceived value.

Maybe in the eyes of fans, but there can't be any GMs who think they can get Lee cheap because he's had crappy luck.
   2. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: June 26, 2009 at 01:06 PM (#3233956)
Maybe in the eyes of fans, but there can't be any GMs who think they can get Lee cheap because he's had crappy luck.

Agreed. I can't imagine a gm in today's game is going to phone Shapiro and say, "But he's only got 4 wins!"
   3. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: June 26, 2009 at 01:33 PM (#3233998)
I have definitely been sabr-brainwashed. I never concern myself with who got the win / loss any more nor what someone's W-L record is in season. I only look at lifetime W-L, if at all. I still look to Batting Average, but only in context of (roughly) figuring out the shape the hitter's OBP and SLG.
   4. RJ in TO Posted: June 26, 2009 at 01:43 PM (#3234008)
Agreed. I can't imagine a gm in today's game is going to phone Shapiro and say, "But he's only got 4 wins!"


I can, but only in a ######## negotiating tactic to try to lower the price, and not out of any serious belief in the value of wins.
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