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Tuesday, September 29, 2009

NESN: Clinchy: Time For Jon Lester to Hope He’s Not the Next Matt Clement

Or as Dale Sams calls it..."Red Sox Myth #99: Matt Clement was a great pitcher for the Sox until he got beaned with a line-drive.”

Remember Matt Clement? The Red Sox signed Clement, then 30, to a three-year, $25.5 million contract to come to Boston in 2005, and at first, it paid off. Clement became an All-Star in the American League right away, going 10-2 with a 3.85 ERA and 97 strikeouts in his first half-season as a member of the Red Sox.

Then the unthinkable happened. On July 26, 2005, in the third inning of a game against the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Clement was hit squarely in the head by a line drive off the bat of Carl Crawford. He was strapped onto a stretcher, carried off the field and taken directly to a St. Petersburg, Fla., hospital.

Like Lester, Clement was poised to make his next start. And he did—but he gave up six runs to the lowly Royals. It was all downhill from there. The All-Star put up a 5.72 ERA in the second half of 2005, and less than a year later, he had pitched his final game in the major leagues. Clement was out of baseball at 31.

I bring this up not to make a direct connection between Clement and Jon Lester. Pitchers get hit by line drives all the time, and a liner to the leg is much less dangerous than one to the skull. But just the same, you have to worry about Lester’s confidence being shaken by the events of last Friday night.

Repoz Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:57 AM | 21 comment(s)
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   1. TVerik and his cavalcade of whimsy  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:14 AM (#3335225)
I bring this up not to make a direct connection between Clement and Jon Lester.


Could have %&(#ing fooled me. I think you did.

In a particularly stupid article (let's see Lester give up six runs in his next start before starting this talk), the only thing that made me thing is that the Clement incident happened four whole years ago.
   2. Gonfalon Bubble  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:17 AM (#3335227)
Nothing in Jon Lester's past indicates that he can overcome a physical obstacle.
   3. Koot  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:20 AM (#3335229)
Lester was hit in the leg and left the field under his own power. Clement left on a stretcher, and was hit in the head. Also, Clement had arm injuries that ended his career.
   4. Jose Can You Seabiscuit  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:21 AM (#3335230)
For a guy not comparing Clement and Lester there are a lot of words in that article doing just that.

I've always believed the beaning was the end of Clement. He suffered an arm injury early in 2006 after being ineffective prior to that. Realizing there's no way to prove/disprove the theory I believe he (like other pitchers) may well have done this after altering his mechanics due in response to the beaning.
   5. Zuvella!  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:31 AM (#3335235)
Realizing there's no way to prove/disprove the theory I believe he (like other pitchers) may well have done this after altering his mechanics due in response to the beaning.


Holy sh*t, what if Jon Lester alters his mechanics due to the line-drive. Oh no! OH NO! OH FRIGGIN NO!!! MAKE IT STOP, GOD!!! MAKE THE WORRIES END!!! WHAT IF LESTER IS RUINED!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
   6. Jose Can You Seabiscuit  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:33 AM (#3335238)
Seriously, WEEI could get two days out of this topic if they set their mind to it.
   7. The Yankee Clapper  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:44 AM (#3335245)
Seriously, WEEI could get two days out of this topic if they set their mind to it.

An awful lot of what is written and broadcast these days isn't so much reporting as an effort to create a buzz that will boost ratings and readership. Set up the scary strawman and knock it down later.

In any event, shouldn't they really be worrying about Josh Beckett's crippling back condition?
   8. TVerik and his cavalcade of whimsy  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:46 AM (#3335247)
Tomorrow, EEI could say that "people are talking about how Lester could be the new Matt Clement", and then bring on experts who say that it can't possibly be that way.
   9. TVerik and his cavalcade of whimsy  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:55 AM (#3335253)
Seriously, he does look like someone drew a human head intentionally without using any curved lines. I've never seen someone look like that.
   10. Best Regards, Larry Mahnken  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 07:59 AM (#3335258)
I think it's time for Jon Lester to hope he's not the next Dave Dravecky! Oh God, how awful would that be, if he had to have his arm cut off!!!
   11. Ryan Jones  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 08:37 AM (#3335276)
Lester was hit in the leg and left the field under his own power.


He was hit in the leg? Oh ####, by the reasoning of this article, he's going to turn into the next Roy Hallday. That's terrible news (for anyone who isn't a fan of the Red Sox).
   12. Nasty Nate  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 08:48 AM (#3335285)
to shift away from this topic and any mention of M___ C_____ at all, lets talk about Wakefield.

What are the chances that tomorrow night is his last Fenway pitching appearance? 25%? 50%? 75%? I am thinking about going to the game to pay my respects. Should be very easy to wrangle up some sub-face tickets.
   13. Smiling Joe Hesketh  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 08:56 AM (#3335300)
I think Wake is going to have the back surgery in the offseason to remove the bone spur (which has been reported as being routine) and will be back next year for 1 last season. Seeing as he was pretty effective in the 1st half before the injury, he may well feel there's no need to hang 'em up just yet. And I'm sure the Sox will gladly take him back given his reasonable effectiveness and his relatively low salary.
   14. SoSHially Unacceptable  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 08:59 AM (#3335303)
What are the chances that tomorrow night is his last Fenway pitching appearance? 25%? 50%? 75%? I am thinking about going to the game to pay my respects. Should be very easy to wrangle up some sub-face tickets.


I've been worried that this will be the case for awhile. And I'm really fearing he'll follow up making his first All-Star team and never win another game.

But I hope he's back. He's my favorite Red Sox player. Ever.
   15. Matt Clement of Alexandria  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 09:28 AM (#3335337)
Wakefield will be back, unless (a) he wants to quit or (b) his surgery is unsuccessful.

To Theo, I think, the man is pitching depth. It has nothing to do with what Wake has meant to the fans and the team, it's that he's a 5th or 6th starter, and Theo only has to acquire three or four more starters in the offseason after Wake.
   16. OCD SS  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 09:31 AM (#3335342)
In any event, shouldn't they really be worrying about Josh Beckett's crippling back condition?


The real travesty is that they refuse to talk about Jason Varitek's hunger to consume human brains. I know he's the captain, but NESN can't keep covering for him. Eventually the team is going to run out of guys like Chris Woodward on the 40-man roster to feed him and he'll go after someone we need for the playoffs.
   17. Dale Sams  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 09:35 AM (#3335350)
The NESN articles are nigh useless. As for Clement, as I wrote elsewhere.

Red Sox Myth #99: Matt Clement was a great pitcher for the Sox until he got beaned with a line-drive.

Clement ERA June 25th: 3.33
Clement ERA JULY 26th: 4.43
Clement ERA September 8th: 4.17

His final ERA for 2005: 4.57

So as you can see, Clements ERA when he got beaned is only 0.14 lower than his final ERA.
   18. Jose Can You Seabiscuit  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 09:43 AM (#3335363)
Clement ERA June 25th: 3.33
Clement ERA JULY 26th: 4.43
Clement ERA September 8th: 4.17

His final ERA for 2005: 4.57

So as you can see, Clements ERA when he got beaned is only 0.14 lower than his final ERA.


True but he then suffered a horrendous year in 2006. To leave that out is leaving out a major part of the issue. Obviously he wasn't a great pitcher for the Sox but he wasn't bad and he fell apart shortly after the beaning.
   19. Dale Sams  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 09:55 AM (#3335380)
True but he then suffered a horrendous year in 2006. To leave that out is leaving out a major part of the issue. Obviously he wasn't a great pitcher for the Sox but he wasn't bad and he fell apart shortly after the beaning.


His 2006 ERA is nothing like what he posted after the beaning and until the end of 2005. I mean....if his bad 2006 has been attributed to killer migraines or double vision, I haven't heard about it.

He gave up 3 runs or less in 6 of 7 of his next starts after being beaned. I could argue getting hit in the head made him a better pitcher for six weeks.
   20. Repoz  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 10:00 AM (#3335387)
he fell apart shortly after the beaning.

Hadn't Clement given up like 26 runs in his previous 27 innings before the beaning?
   21. SteveF  Posted: September 29, 2009 at 04:50 PM (#3336009)
Looks like 25 in 25.1. So you're obviously completely wrong and it invalidates any point you may have had.

More seriously, that's some crazy good memory you have. It's a good thing you don't work for the enemy.
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