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Wednesday, November 12, 2008

New York always a baseball town

Everywhere else in America, nothing trumps football, especially this time of year, except in New York, where baseball still throws logic a curveball. Everywhere else in America, football is king, on Friday nights and Saturday afternoons and all day Sunday.

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This is one of the last stubborn old baseball outposts, where the game doesn’t go on vacation and where football, for plenty of folks, only passes the time between the last out of the World Series and the reporting date for pitchers and catchers. Around here, baseball remains the pastime. Everywhere else, baseball is past its time.

New Yorker acts as if Boston, St. Louis and Los Angeles (where Basketball beats them both) don’t exist. Typical Downstater.

Gamingboy Posted: November 12, 2008 at 10:44 PM | 14 comment(s)
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   1. Halofan  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 02:33 AM (#3008007)
The same Los Angeles, where two NFL teams left and were never replaced?
   2. HOPE: Madison Obamagarner (Flynn)  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 06:43 AM (#3008016)
The article is dumb, but his point is right: NY is a baseball town, and it's keeping that torch lit during the winter, certainly if sports talk radio is anything to go by. WEEI has basically gone into full-on Patriots & Celtics mode with very little discussion or interviews about baseball. Dale & Holley had a weekly spot with Ken Rosenthal and stopped doing it - it'd have been great to hear Robothal's latest rumors. The Big Show..well I'll just ignore those mongoloids. By comparison WFAN is still talking about baseball all the time. Jon Heyman is practically hosting his own show by calling in so much, Joe & Evan spent a good ten minutes discussing Lincecum's Cy Young Award, Fatcesa had a discussion over who was the greatest post-war NY pitcher, etc.
   3. JRVJ (formerly Delta Socrates)  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 08:23 AM (#3008031)
If the Phillies keep it up and the Eagles are down, Philly may swing back to being a solid baseball town.....
   4. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 08:30 AM (#3008036)
New York is a great baseball town. It's one of my favorite things about living here.
   5. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 08:50 AM (#3008048)
If the Phillies keep it up and the Eagles are down, Philly may swing back to being a solid baseball town.....

Some of this is just talk show churning, but I think Mike Missanelli has hit on something on WPEN. He's been talking about how he thinks the town has lost its Eagles passion -- that 10 years of Andy Reid telling us that he has to put people where they can make plays, we have to work on that, I'm not getting into that and the arrogance of the self-proclaimed "Gold Standard" front office has finally broken the spirit of the fans. And that the team is on target for its 3rd playoff miss in 4 years. And that once the other teams in the division got serious about hiring good coaches (OK, maybe Jerry Jones misfired on Wade Phillips), suddenly Reid's flaws became more apparent and he gets glaringly outcoached in division games now. (Game day coaching is not one of Reid's strengths)

And Reid looks like he's going to be around for a while so this might get real ugly -- to the Phillies benefit.

And yeah, NY is a baseball town. I listen to the FAN once in a while and I'm always pleased by the amount of baseball talk, even if it's a lot of Yankees talk. :)
   6. jmurph  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 09:24 AM (#3008077)
I'm not a New Yorker, but I think of NY as a basketball town, first and foremost. I think the Knicks epic suckitude over the past several seasons has erased some of those memories, but it's still there.
   7. The District Attorney  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 09:46 AM (#3008101)
Fatcesa had a discussion over who was the greatest post-war NY pitcher
Umm, what's the discussion? It's Tom Seaver.

I agree that NYC is baseball 12 months a year (I'm not saying other cities aren't -- I really don't know -- but this one is), and it's a fantastic thing that I would totally miss if it were not the case.
   8. HOPE: Madison Obamagarner (Flynn)  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM (#3008259)
Umm, what's the discussion? It's Tom Seaver.

This is Francesa. He wasn't going to let it be a Met, so he said he couldn't choose between Seaver and Whitey Ford.

And I just cannot see the argument for NY as a basketball town, or at least a Knick town. It was hip to be a Knick fan when Pat Riley coached them, but that was at a fairly lean time for other NY teams (it was hip to be a Ranger fan too). They get their fans, but I've never gotten the impression NY was anything but a frontrunner with the Knicks. Which is what most markets are like for their "other" teams. I'm willing to be corrected though.
   9. BeanoCook  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 12:55 PM (#3008278)
I'm not a New Yorker, but I think of NY as a basketball town, first and foremost. I think the Knicks epic suckitude over the past several seasons has erased some of those memories, but it's still there.


Even the Knicks don't think they are a basketball franchise.
   10. BeanoCook  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 12:58 PM (#3008281)
Thank god New York loves baseball as much as they do, having the media capital of the world crown baseball as the best sport does payoff, even if there is a Yankees, NY/East Coast bias in covering the sport, on balance it is a great thing baseball has and should see that it remains that way.

That being said, I think part of the reason Selig is hated as much as he is, is due to the fact Selig is not from New York and he doesn't not work out of New York.
   11. aleskel  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 01:00 PM (#3008283)
I'm not a New Yorker, but I think of NY as a basketball town, first and foremost.

It's an interesting discussion, because certainly NY produces more basketball players than it does baseball players (Manny is the only current Major Leaguer I can think of who's from the city proper), but as far as which sport more NYers consider their favorite, it would probably be baseball
   12. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: November 13, 2008 at 01:05 PM (#3008286)
That being said, I think part of the reason Selig is hated as much as he is, is due to the fact Selig is not from New York and he doesn't not work out of New York.

This is why non-New Yorkers hate Selig or why New Yorkers do? Hell, I live in New York and I didn't even know he worked out of some other city. I just always assumed he worked out of a luxury suite in one of the nicer circles of hell, but not the really nice one with Socrates and unbaptized babies.
   13. HOPE: Madison Obamagarner (Flynn)  Posted: November 14, 2008 at 08:47 AM (#3008978)
There's several MLBers from NYC:

Dennis Sarfate, David DeJesus, Mike Aviles, Ross Gload, Nelson Figureoa, Ron Belliard, Raul Ibanez, Rich Aurilia. LoDuca and A-Rod were born there but grew up elsewhere. Damion Easley's probably not active anymore. There's probably some guys who were born elsewhere and grew up in NY.
   14. TVerik and his cavalcade of whimsy  Posted: November 14, 2008 at 09:07 AM (#3008996)
DeJesus, at least, is from the Jersey suburbs. Manalapan, I believe.

That's about as much like NYC as is Nixa, MO.
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