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In other Yankee prospect news, David Adams is doing very well in Tampa. He's a little old for the league I think but it's his first pro season and he's adjusted very well so far.
He's 19, he'll be coming off a longer layoff than usual, and Posada is signed for two more years.
Let Montero start next season at AA.
If his catcher D is at all passable in ST, I think you start him in AAA with an eye towards bringing him up after the Super-2 "deadline" passes.
If they can get him 30 games behind the dish spotting Posada and 30 games as the DH, with another 80 or so PA as a power RH bat off the bench, that's 300 MLB PA, which is plenty for his development and takes a lot of the load off Posada.
Depends how badly it's broken. Broken fingers sometimes do have medium term effects at least, in terms of batting. Any hand injuries can be bad news for prospects. But I'd guess at worst it would slow him down - not a big issue given his age.
Roughly when is that deadline?
And moving later each year, as teams play with the system to gain a financial advantage. iirc, it used to be the end of April.
This is pretty unlikely. The kid is reportedly pretty bad back there.
When was the last time a 20-year-old was playing catcher in the major leagues? Dioner Navarro...with the Yankees! (I think)
I know that throwing isn't his only problem, but I remain hopeful that the Yankees player development guys know what they're doing there.
He will eventually, but with Teixeira at 1B, it is hugely valuable if he can catch for his first 3-5 years. It may also be hard for a young guy to break in as a DH.
Who are you talking about here? Jackson, Romine and Adams? Anyone else?
It may also be hard for a young guy to break in as a DH.
With Matsui out next year, there's a lot of room at DH. They will probably spot Jeter, A-rod, Damon (?) and obviously Posada there quite a bit next year and beyond but he should be able to get a good amount of playing time at DH for the next few years.
In 5 years, A-Rod is probably going to be a DH, or at least be spending non-trivial amounts of time away from 3B. I don't think it's crazy to assume Teixeira manages to stick at 1B during his Yankee tenure, but where does Montero play if not C? Do the Yankees pray A-Rod can stick at 3B til he's 40? Do they just keep throwing him out there even if he's a defensive train wreck? Can Montero play LF?
I think the Yanks pray that A-rod can stick in the OF. He is still reasonably athletic even while recovering from the hip surgery, he might be able to adjust even though he seems to occasionally struggle with balls in the air (as Micheal Kays feels obliged to say every time he catches a pop up). They might just be prepared to put A-rod somewhere and count on his hitting to outweigh his defensive deficiencies. He probably can't be worse than Dunn out there and he's a better hitter than Dunn and probably will be for a long time.
Can Montero play LF?
Based on what I've read, probably not.
Maybe a few years they move A-Rod to DH and Montero off catcher and to 3B.
I don't think Montero has the physical tools to play at third (based on what I've read of course, I've never seen him). Although thinking about it, I now have a sudden urge to see how well Posada would be able to handle the hot corner.
Edited for clarity.
He catches, I think, until Tex vacates 1B. If his bat is what it appears to be, even really bad defense plays at catcher. You probably carry a good glove 2nd catcher and give him 90-100 games at C, and ~50 at DH.
NY is familiar with this strategy. Piazza couldn't throw out anybody, and Posada can't block a pitch. As long as they hit, nobody cares.
Looking forward (2011?) I think it makes a ton of sense to move A-Rod to LF. It'll be easier on his body and he definitely has the tools to handle the transition. A-Rod's athleticism is such that I wouldn't be surprised if he could handle RF, too.
EDIT: Cowboy Popup, the beverage I owe you... is it actually a Coca-Cola, or simply a soda pop of your choice?
Darn coke/pop/soda.
Except he may be pretty bad defensively at catcher. From what I hear, he has an arm but nothing else.
Corban Joseph, Kyle Higashioka (sp?), Zoilo Almonte (sp?), Francisco Arcia (SSSW), Jose Pirela, Eduardo Nunez (especially post-April), and Corban Joseph.
Everyone knows he's pretty bad at C, the question is how bad is he. The BA meme seems to be that he is OMG worst catcher evar bad, wheras Goldstein seems to just say he's really bad. Because I am a fanboy, I will choose to believe that he is just really bad and the Yankees are an organization that has shown time and again that they are willing to punt defense for special bats. That coupled with my belief that they don't believe he is as bad as everyone else does makes me think Montero is starting games at C beginning sometime in '10. His position may become a question shortly thereafter though depending on whether Romine keeps progressing because right now he looks like he could be a damn good C on both sides of the ball, sort of like a poor man's Ivan Rodriguez (please do not take this to mean that I think Romine=Pudge, merely that the shape of his contribution based on minor league numbers and scouting reports reminds me of this.)
Personally, I've always agreed with AROM's sentiment in post 18. Posada and Piazza are/were freaks health wise. This is Montero's second catching related injury this year (first was on a collision). I want his bat in the lineup 155 times per year.
I like Higgy and Pirela. None of the others. De Leon seems to have bigs tools. Corona may be decent. I love Romine.
Cool, I hadn't been following any of these guys except for Nunez, who I didn't think was all that impressive outside of a good May. I'll be sure to keep an eye on these guys.
De Leon seems to have bigs tools.
Has he played anywhere yet? I can't find any numbers for him.
Not as much my view as the one I've picked up from BP. I'll admit that I haven't spent a lot of time figuring out on my own the relative value of catcher defense to that of other positions.
Depends on your definition of never hit. Given the standards for hitting at the C position, I think Cervelli can be an average C (offense/defense) for some club and having an average C as a backup would obviously be a huge weapon.
Argh! Primer just ate another post of mine. In any event, statistically, Montero has 26 PB in 153 games. That's not great, but if he can get that under control a bit and keep his CS percentage where it was in Double-A (i.e., above 30) you could live with the defense for his stick.
The thing is, IIRC, Romine who's supposed to be talented defender, also has poor PB numbers. You can't really tell anything from the numbers given the Ps these guys are working with and all the other myriad of variables. Especially in the lower levels of the minors.
If you like tools, you should like Almonte. He was all the talk back in Spring...'07, I believe. Then he got punished for overconfidence in summer '07 and shot sometime in '08, but appears to be (hopefully) back on track.
He's in the Gulf, strikes out way way way too much but is only 18 and has shown good power.
Cool, I hadn't been following any of these guys except for Nunez, who I didn't think was all that impressive outside of a good May. I'll be sure to keep an eye on these guys.
The BABIP fueled May was his big month, but it's cool IMO to see him go from "man, remember when this guy was a big prospect and now he'll never even make it to AA" to "man, this guy used to be a big prospect, but at least he may still be able to salvage a career as a backup"
Yeah I liked both Almonte boys based on the DSL performance but they've done nothing but disapoint since. Didn't even notice Zoilo was doing alright in the Penn. I see he's playing RF, doubt he'll ever hit enough for a corner.
And....he got shot? I missed that.
A-rod to LF makes sense, but I'm not at all sold he can handle the move. A-Rod still looks like he has a considerable amount of his athleticism, but his ability to judge fly balls has always been shaky. He manages to make even routine popups look like an adventure... even Michael Kay is right once in a while. I'm having no trouble picturing a deeply uncomfortable A-Rod stumbling around in left like a drunken Kevin Reimer.
Anyway, I agree with the notion of leaving Montero at catcher if he really is the hitter people think he'll be. You can forgive a lot of bad defense for a C that puts up a 130 OPS+.
The point is, you can't have that. 1B is taken for 7 more years, and you're going to need DH to spell ARod, Jeter and Posada (I believe ARod can stick at 3B for several more years). In any case, no one breaks in young players as DH's.
If all goes as expected, I think they bring Montero up in late 2010. In 2011 he splits C/DH with Posada (with Cervelli as a 3rd C). In 2012, he's the starting C, but limited to 90-100 games with 40-50 G's at DH..
Because his problems are hip related? I would think the running in the OF would be far harder on him than a few quick steps at 3B. Anyway, I'd like to see his fielding next year (when fully healed), before deciding he can't stick at 3B for 5 more years.
OK, makes sense.
Why?
And....he got shot? I missed that.
Yep...otherwise he would have made it to the GCL.
I think that's overly harsh on A-Rod, he's not a bad base runner but in any case I don't see in general how moving a guy from 3B to RF is likely to create more chances for him to do wrong.
A-rod is a good to very good base runner, he's pretty good at taking extra bases when they present themselves and he's stolen 290 bases at an 81% success rate. Even with reduced speed this year he's stolen 7 bases in 8 attempts.
Why the hyperbole? Obviously he has better instincts than Ruben Rivera or Roger Cedeno or Daniel Murphy ... I am sure there are a wealth of baseball idiots that I am forgetting about. Marv Throneberry and such.
ARod is a good baserunner and was a good shortstop in his day.
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