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Otherwise, there will always be serious nerves and one Marlon/Tatis/Cancel AB away from meta-pain.
BTW, how good has Ollie been recently? Last 5 starts: 1.34 ERA, 33.2 IP, 39/12 K/BB, .98 WHIP. This dominant stretch comes after getting lit up by Seattle.
The man is an enigma.
The Mets are expected to promote RHP Brandon Knight from Triple-A New Orleans to start against St. Louis on Saturday.
I admit to knowing nothing about this person.
He used to be a Yankee prospect, made a few appearances for them 5 or so years ago, he's supposed to be going to the Olympics. Off the chart numbers in AAA. Righthander with fringy stuff. Kind of surprised they are going with him instead of Niese.
The Mets are expected to promote RHP Brandon Knight from Triple-A New Orleans to start against St. Louis on Saturday.
I admit to knowing nothing about this person.
He'll still throw a two-hitter.
What a bunch of crap. Jose Reyes is twice the player Jimmy ####### Rollins is. Rollins happened to flukishly have a better year in 2007, and the difference was critical in an extremely close race and it was magnified by how poorly Reyes played at the end of the season. But in general, and overall, Reyes is so much better than Rollins, it's a joke that the media extols Rollins for his supposed virtues. The double standard would be a joke, but it's not funny.
Jose Reyes: .296/.362/.480
Jimmy Rollins: .269/.332/.430
Yet you'd never know Reyes is kicking his sorry ass this season, to listen to the media.
Obviously, it drives me crazy that they're rewarding Muniz and Knight and ignoring their most productive player in the minors this year. Please free Pascucci.
Ohhhhhhh yeah, I remember now. Well, it will be interesting to see what happens.
Good point on Reyes, Sam.
Howard, get on this! Call out the media! :-)
He replied all sarcastically "Did they? Nobody told me anything."
It was outstanding.
You guys have a good, fun team. Don't make me hate it by whining about every little perceived insult.
The Reyes thing has a little more merit than that, however, even in my opinion.
Sorry, but it is not just a "little perceived insult." It has been an ongoing, consistent stream of disdain aimed at Reyes from some of the Mets' own announcers, from national broadcasters and commentators, and from columnists. Everything he does -- including stuff from last year dredged up and re-hashed, re-warmed over, and brought back to life -- is used to make him look like he was single-handedly responsible for the Mets' failings as a team. They even blamed him for Glavine's getting torched by the Marlins in Game 162 last year. And then he hits a critical home run last night, and because it didn't fit the theme Davey O'Brien had been barking all night long (Rollins is Mr. Baseball and Reyes is a punk), he and Showalter blast him for the way he ran the bases -- which ESPN then rehashed AGAIN tonight.
Forgive me if it makes me furious -- the media creating an image that doesn't in any way, shape or form fit the player or his performance.
No bigger defending of Willie than me on BTF, and even I think it was the right thing to do, even if done like crap.
Do you really think that or is it sarcasm?
Also, if it makes you feel better, Sam, there was nothing on Reyes on the late edition of BBTN.
The Mets get more than their fair share of publicity but because they are a big-market team that has not been that successful, I think the majority of it is negative. That's to be expected.
Add even the career norms of Ryan Church back to the line-up, and a cooled-off but still productive Delgado, and you've got a good enough offense. Not a league-best kind of attack, but good enough.
What do you think, Lassus?
That I've already lost interest.
Give the Mets a healthy Church and I think they have arguably the best offense in the NL. That might sound ridiculous but just take a look at the rosters. Is the Phils offense better with Jimmy Rollins playing at his pre-2007 level and Howard completely useless against lefties? Utley's outstanding but he's not going to hit 45 homers like he was on pace for in the first half.
The Cubs and Brewers have an argument as well as the surprising Pirates but I think the Met offense is the best if they get a healthy Church back.
MSM is all about results, and not means. For all the hype the Mets have got over the past 4 years, they have yet to win a pennant. And that weighs heavily with the national media, rightly or wrongly.
Why is Reyes the object of all this scorn now? Because for two years + , he was the subject of all the adulation. He was "the most exciting player in baseball". And suddenly, he is in the middle of the collapse et al.
If the Mets win the pennant this year, you will hear nada about this next year. While you may be objectively correct about how MSM is turning on Reyes, it is fairly obvious from afar why they are doing so. Put it this way, if the Mets win the World Series, next year its all going to be Reyes being Reyes.
To whine about this at length just gets the goat of unbiased observers. We all understand how good he is, and how this is being overblown.
Nah. Not if Church is hitting at career norms (115 OPS+) as opposed to what he was doing earlier this year before getting hurt (133 OPS+), and if Delgado reverts to merely being productive (say, his current season average -- 118 OPS+ -- rather than his scorching July pace). That would give the Mets a pretty averageish offensive 1b and RF, and probably an averageish C (assuming a combination of the above-average Castro and below-average Schneider), unless Manuel starts playing Castro a lot more than he has. That's not a recipe for a league-best offense -- especially not when you throw in the black-holish LF.
The Braves haven't won a pennant since 1998 which is a longer stretch of time than the Mets. The Mets have been the better team since 2006 and the Braves had been just as big a disappointment as the Mets prior to New York good recent stretch.
The Braves get far more favorable publicity than the Mets.
Sam, the Phils were second in RS in the NL prior to today's game and the Mets are only 8 runs behind them. That is nothing considering home ballparks. Sure, the Mets have holes but so does every other team in the NL.
The Braves get far more favorable publicity than the Mets.
99 you mean. And they have won 6 div titles since. And they have have finished under 500 only once ( 79 -83 in 2006, cos of the bullpen ). The Mets have a long way to go before they build the kind of cachet the Braves have. This comparison is just a strawman.
Did I say the Phillies have the best offense in the league, either? I don't believe I did . . . Unlike the media, which is in the tank for the Phillie's line-up, I actually recognize that their real strength has been Moyer, Hamels, and their bullpen, who have given them a very effective overall pitching staff that has been stronger so far this year than the Mets (disguised by the respective home parks).
I think the Cubs actually have the best offense in the league. I'll grant you can make a case for the Mets, who have scored the most runs in road games of any team in the league (although they are slightly behind the Marlins in RPG on the road).
I guess that's my bias because I don't think what happened 5+ years ago is that relevant to a discussion about how well-run or how good a team is now. The Braves were the ideal MLB franchise. That just isn't true anymore, IMO. How long do the Braves get to rest on their laurels?
They don't want to risk having Niese damage his trade value by coming up right before the deadline and getting shelled.
I guess I was a little surprised by Ken Rosenthal. He covered a game for the Mets for Fox recently while the Mets were on their big winning streak and made it a point to mention that the Mets were just beating up on the NL West. Then recently, he wrote this excerpt:
If the Braves are smart — and when are they not? — they will recognize that they need to sell for the first time since 1990, when they traded Dale Murphy to the Phillies.
Rosenthal's attitude surprised me but he's never been much of analyst. He's more of a reporter.
You are right in the sene that MSM, despite their current criticism of him, have not turned on him half as much as they should have. If you read Braves Jornal for the past 2 weeks, you would know who the happiest people on earth wuold be if the MSM turned on Francoeur as they should ( Braves fans, if you need clarification ).
The trouble is this. The Braves have made non-sensical dcisions in the past and gotten away with it. Ice Williams leading off on a World Series team??? The corpses of Brian Jordan and Raul Mondesi as starting outfielders for a division winner???? The Braves have gotten lucky in the past, and thats scarred the MSM enough to not voice their voices on what seems like current nonsensical decisions. Thats what I meant by building up a cachet. But the Braves reservoir of goodwill is running out, and it surely will if they don't win the division soon. But given the Mets history of catastrophic decision making, are you surprised the MSM is turning on them? Plus they sell more by criticising the Mets than the Braves, and that is a big motivating factor.
Jimmy Rollins may not have been crucified, but he's gotten his fair share of criticism, at least here in Philly (and no, not the J.D. Drew brand of criticism).
I think putting any credence into an ESPN analyst's opinion is a bad move. They're routinely wrong about almost everything. I was so surprised that Buster Olney was right about the Sabathia-to-Brewers deal, and he was quick on that one.
They are. Personally, I don't mind them one bit, but there's no question that Reyes' celebrations are excessive, immature, and unsportsmanlike. Phillies radio color broadcaster and former pitcher Larry Andersen said Reyes should have been hit in the neck in his next at-bat. While I think that's a bit too high, I don't disagree with the sentiment.
Reyes: 101 career OPS+, 79.7% SB success rate, NL worst .812 RZR among qualified SS this season
Rollins: 98 career OPS+, 82.5% SB success rate, 8th out of 11 qualified NL SS with an .834 RZR
Eh, it wasn't really a fluke. His ISO increased from 2005-07 from .142 to .200 to .235. Last year, he had a .303 BABIP which is about what you'd expect.
Rollins: 53.3 WARP-3 over 8 full seasons, average of 6.6 WARP-3 per season
Reyes: 36.4 WARP-3 over 4 full seasons and 2 half-seasons (2003-04), average of 7.3 WARP-3 per season.
On average, Reyes is about a half-win better. Not "so much better" than Jimmy.
Methinks you're just imagining this. ESPN especially has a fetish for New York teams.
Rollins is traditionally a second-half player, so let's revisit this when the season is over.
Rollins: 98 career OPS+, 82.5% SB success rate, 8th out of 11 qualified NL SS with an .834 RZR
If you're going to use career numbers for the offense, you should do the same for the defense. Reyes is having a bad year with the glove this season but he's been superb the previous two seasons and his career ZR is .840.
If you want to give credit to Rollins for being the better defensive player this year than Reyes gets a huge advantage on offense(nearly 30 points of OPS+) as he's been a much better offensive player in 2008.
If Reyes stays healthy, it is very likely that he has a significantly better career than Rollins.
Personally, I blame the Mets organization, the local media and their fans. If you haven't noticed by all of the national commercials featuring his smiling mug, the country wants to like Jose Reyes. But then he goes and does something trivial and then the Mets coaches turn it into a huge issue and then the local media picks it up and sensationalizes it even more and then the national coverage have no choice but to at least pick it up and report it.
Don't blame "the media" for the Mets eating their own.
BTF Mets fans are simply never content to be in the middle. You guys either have to be rooting for the best team and best organization in the league or they have to be woeful martyrs attached forever to the albatross of Mets fandom as you despise and revile every second of it.
I couldn't find career RZR numbers. If I could have, I would have!
And your point is...?
I really didn't think he had much left to be honest.
He's a first round college pitch hazing teenaged NYPen Leaguers-
What's curious is that under Minaya's watch, he's started his high round (1-2) college pitchers in much higher leagues, wonder why he stuck Holt so low- especially since it;s pretty obvious that he's not gonna learn ANYTHING in that league.
That's a good example of the vitriol that has led to the MSM ganging up on Reyes. Sam, I don't think they'll ever give up the Marlins game 162 anecdote, because it jibes with how they themselves feel about all the celebrations. It gives them validation that the pros feel like they do, even if as an afterthought on one ocassion.
And while I normally think the MSM goes overboard on the Reyes celebrations, I have to say, against the Phils, they did boil the blood a little bit. Moreso his celebration with Delgado after the latter's HR in the first game ... that must have lasted a good "five-Mississippi." Or not even blood boiling, it's almost like a parody. It immediately makes you wonder how much time these grown men must have taken out of a day to work on fancy handshakes.
It's pretty crazy, and on my list.
What's curious is that under Minaya's watch, he's started his high round (1-2) college pitchers in much higher leagues, wonder why he stuck Holt so low- especially since it;s pretty obvious that he's not gonna learn ANYTHING in that league.
I can see why it looks this way from the numbers, but it isn't the case. He just learned how to throw a good changeup. I mean, three starts ago was when he started. With that, improved command of his slider, and the fastball that got him drafted, NOW he isn't in a position to learn anything in Brooklyn. I suppose he could have learned at St. Lucie, for instance, but this way he got to do it with no pressure. I can't imagine the Mets expected he'd take to the change this quickly and this well- look how long it took Pelfrey to add secondary pitches.
But Holt is already well beyond Pelfrey on both change and slider, in both movement and command. I'm VERY optimistic on him if he stays healthy.
... but still
Mulvey- 2nd round pick, one start in GCL, sent to AA
Humber sent to the FSL (A+)
Pelfrey 4 starts in FSL sent to AA
They did have Kunz make 12 Apps in Brooklyn before sending him to AA...
Not that this necessarily has much to do with your point, but I thought I read he was out for a month...
Then again, Joe Smith started in Brooklyn and got promoted after a couple of weeks to AA. Kunz and Rustich started there as well. Eh, let Brad stay there. They need all the help they can get.
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I thought it was just Reyes who had a problem with Willie, but both Delgado and Hojo pretty much laid CDel's resurgence at the feet of Willie's dismissal.
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I was hoping Niese would pitch at Shea tomorrow. I wonder if Knight considers one MLB start to be worth losing his Olympic eligibility.
I thought it was just Reyes who had a problem with Willie, but both Delgado and Hojo pretty much laid CDel's resurgence at the feet of Willie's dismissal.
When did this happen?
Newsday's David Lennon wrote today:
Mechanics? Video? I think not. Hitting coach Howard Johnson pretty much tells you all you need to know about what flicked the switch in Delgado. (I'll give you a hint -- it happened while you were sleeping on June 17).
I hadn't heard about Delgado, but I had heard that Beltran and a couple of pitchers had issues with Willie...
He won't lose his Olympic eligibility.
The ludicrous anti-professionalism rule was discarded along time ago
Not following the Mets, I honestly don't know.
Delgado is a veteran who has a considerable resume. I don't think he'd let anyone change his hitting style unless he wanted to change it.
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