If there's a rule, I propose that we use Joel Hanrahan and Paul Lo Duca as examples, banning them for life. We need to send a message to these players that fraternization will not be tolerated.

Oh, and Ray King, too. Ban him.

My new response to absolutely everything that Willie says for the rest of the season is "Oh go blow it out your ass".

Given his track record thus far, that's not such an unreasonable response.

Soccer abounds with organized shows of fraternization to show fans that it's ok not to kick the #### out of each other all the time...

sigh

some of the guys who are now with a different team played with someone on the opposing team all the way thru the minors and maybe even into the majors and they are close friends OFF the field

you take a bunch of ultra-super competitive young males and i seriously doubt that when pitcher X is on the mound he look at the batter and think - oh wow, my poor friend - he Kd 3 times already AND made 2 errors - we're up by a few, think i'll groove him one cuz he my buddy my pal and our wives bf

To see one of his former lieutenants fawned over by members of the Mets organization probably makes every game against Washington an annoyance for Randolph. But that doesn’t seem to be changing any time soon, and neither does the inexplicable chumminess between some Mets and the team that humiliated them only seven months ago.

Then show everyone that you're a better manager than Acta, and that the Mets would not be better off with Acta having your job.

cuz he my buddy my pal and our wives bf

I think he would and should absolute bean the guy who's his wife's bff.

Jeez, what a sourpuss. And he wonders why Manny Acta is welcomed like a prodigal son at Shea? He almost killed Jose – how the hell can anyone stand playing for this guy?

Willie didn't have a problem last year when Omar was chatting up Miggy Cabrera during batting practice.

What you say about his company
Is what you say about Sheaciety

Lastings' gigantic wooden cross (Orinoco) Posted: April 18, 2008 at 12:46 PM (#2749870)

cuz he my buddy my pal and our wives bf


I think he would and should absolute bean the guy who's his wife's bff.

- grinning

all yall boys SOOOOOOOO freaked out about us grrrrls having a male bf. trust us he is our friend BECAUSE he's suuuuuch a good friend and we decided LONG ago we didn't wanna f**k him...

You can’t force people not to talk to someone.

You can't say stuff like that if you haven't cut anybody's tongue out. People will just think you're a whiny #####.

Since I only sporadically pay attention to the Mets, could somebody help me out by posting a list of things Willie Randolph DOES approve of?

Really, anything Willie says at this point just plain aggravates me. He has developed a nasty habit of putting his own players down. This is just this week:

"He's not going to be in that tree all year," Randolph said of Pagan, who is also tied with David Wright for the team lead with 10 RBIs. "We've seen a lot of players come through the pike and do what Pagan's doing, so let's keep this in perspective."

Willie Randolph was disappointed when Beltran scratched himself from a game in Phoenix last May because of a sore quadriceps muscle with the Mets trying for a series sweep of the Diamondbacks. The manager believed Beltran's absence from that game - with teammates Moises Alou and Paul Lo Duca also sitting out - suggested a team-wide lack of killer instinct.

But as well as Figueroa has been pitching, Willie Randolph indicated even before the game that his time in the rotation, and perhaps even the big-league team, is limited. "I'm sure Figgie is going to get a couple of starts, and it could go longer than depending on when the other guys are ready," he said. "But he's not going to be here for an extended period of time."

Fire him now.

Last may? WTF is he bringing up what happened last May? Or is he trying to use that as an excuse for the Mets collapse? And not his pathetic misuse of Sosa and Schoeneweiss, and his overuse of Mota?

i guess willies wife told him that figgie is HOT

“How does that happen? How does that become normal?” Randolph said. “I don’t know. It’s just foreign to me, that’s all.

so Randolph ####### about fraternization

and in Willie's day, Bob Gibson ####### about fraternization ("we never did that; that's the enemy")

and in Gibson's day, Bob Feller ####### about fraternization ("we never did that; that's the enemy")

and in Feller's day, Ty Cobb...

and so on

you take a bunch of ultra-super competitive young males and i seriously doubt that when pitcher X is on the mound he look at the batter and think - oh wow, my poor friend - he Kd 3 times already AND made 2 errors - we're up by a few, think i'll groove him one cuz he my buddy my pal and our wives bf

The biggest fights I ever had associated with sports were either with guys who were, at the time, my friends or who became my friends a within a few years. And that was at a time when these guys lived in different towns than me and we couldn't any of us drive. I can't imagine the friendships that must be out on the field every night the way the game is now. I also can't imagine not wanting to beat your friends (figuratively) heads in in a game. Just for pride.

But as well as Figueroa has been pitching, Willie Randolph indicated even before the game that his time in the rotation, and perhaps even the big-league team, is limited. "I'm sure Figgie is going to get a couple of starts, and it could go longer than depending on when the other guys are ready," he said. "But he's not going to be here for an extended period of time."

Did he say that? No - tell me Willie did not say that.

Did he say that? No - tell me Willie did not say that.

It's in today's Star Ledger.

http://www.nj.com/mets/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1208496904235580.xml&coll=1&thispage=2

gibson took it even further. he'd plunk ex-teammates to remind them that they weren't buddies anymore. i believe angell wrote about that.

gibson took it even further. he'd plunk ex-teammates to remind them that they weren't buddies anymore. i believe angell wrote about that.

The most players Bob Gibson hit in a single year was 13 in 1963. Here they were:

Thursday, May 9, 1963 Dodgers
F Howard (3, by B Gibson); T Davis (2, by B Gibson).

Tuesday, May 14, 1963, 8:00PM Braves
M Jones (2, by B Gibson).

Sunday, May 19, 1963, 1:32PM Reds
F Robinson (4, by B Gibson).

Friday, May 24, 1963, 8:03PM Mets
T Harkness (2, by B Gibson).

Thursday, June 6, 1963, 8:05PM Phillies
F Torre (2, by B Gibson).

Sunday, June 16, 1963, 1:03PM Pirates
J Logan (1, by B Gibson).

Saturday, June 22, 1963 Dodgers
B Skowron (2, by B Gibson).

Sunday, July 7, 1963, 4:25PM Giants
O Cepeda (7, by B Gibson); J Hart (1, by B Gibson).

Wednesday, July 17, 1963, 8:05PM Reds
P Rose (3, by B Gibson).

Friday, August 9, 1963, 8:00PM Braves
R McMillan 2 (2, 2 by B Gibson).

Frank Howard played for four teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.
Tommy Davis played for 11 teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.
Mack Jones played for three teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.
Frank Robinson played for five teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.
Tim Harkness played for two teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.
Frank Torre played for two teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson. Frank's brother Joe was a teammate of Bob Gibson, but not until after Gibson hit Frank.
Johnny Logan played for two teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.
Moose Skowron played for five teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.
Orlando Cepeda played for six teams during his career and was a teammate of Bob Gibson, but not until after Gibson hit him.
Pete Rose played for three teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.
Jim Ray Hart played for two teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.
Roy McMillan played for three teams during his career but was never a teammate of Bob Gibson.

Since I only sporadically pay attention to the Mets, could somebody help me out by posting a list of things Willie Randolph DOES approve of?

Shawn Green.