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Thursday, September 18, 2008

NL West race: September 17, 2008

MLB.com: Dodgers outslugged by Pirates

In a real mess of a game, Adam LaRoche slugged two homers with five RBIs and Ryan Doumit homered and drove in four as the Pirates pounded out a 15-8 win over the Dodgers, who lost Nomar Garciaparra for an unspecified time with a knee injury.
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“It’s a loss you have to put behind you,” said manager Joe Torre, whose club had won 14 of the previous 16 games to build a 4 1/2-game lead over Arizona.

MLB.com: Webb helps himself in 21st victory

Brandon Webb the hitter won’t win any awards for his performance at the plate, but he certainly helped himself Wednesday night by smacking a two-run double in the second inning, which proved to be the difference in a 7-6 D-backs win over the Giants at Chase Field.

LAD 79-73 [12-3 in SEPT]
ARI 75-76 [6-9 in SEPT] (3.5 GB)

NTNgod Posted: September 18, 2008 at 12:25 AM | 9 comment(s)
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   1. 1k5v3L, Useless  Posted: September 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM (#2945957)
The only race that involves the Dbacks is a mad race among the relievers to see who can finish with the most blown saves and losses by the end of the season. Slaten did his best tonight, god bless that useless sack of intestines.

Webb won his 21st game. He's got 2 more starts, and he needs to win both of them to have a shot at the Cy Young. And even then, I think it's a done deal, most likely. Unless the Dbacks score 12 runs off Lincecum tomorrow.
   2. Gold Star 4 Robot Boy  Posted: September 17, 2008 at 11:57 PM (#2945961)
Lev, you and I are alike in that we're thinking the worst of our teams.
Frankly, I won't be confident until this is Capital-C Clinched. Otherwise, they'll always have another 8-game losing streak in them.
   3. The Artist  Posted: September 18, 2008 at 12:25 AM (#2945969)
There's no way Webb deserves the Cy Young. Lincecum has been the best pitcher by some margin - christ, even in the simplistic stats (lowest ERA, highest K's, highest K rate).
   4. The Artist  Posted: September 18, 2008 at 12:26 AM (#2945971)
Heck, my ballot would be 1) Lincecum 2) Santana and 3) Hamels.
   5. John DiFool2  Posted: September 18, 2008 at 12:26 AM (#2945972)
The only race that involves the Dbacks is a mad race among the relievers to see who can finish with the most blown saves and losses by the end of the season.


What happened to all those Dbacks relievers who pitched so well last year in all those close games?

[Checking]

Valverde is in Houston, tho BBRef has no record of any trade or signing...
Tony Pena simply had a BABIP regression...
Brandon Lyon, ditto...
Doug Slaten saw many more of his baserunners score this year...
Juan Cruz, despite an insane K/9 rate, has nary a single save this year...
Chad Qualls has pitched well (came from Houston, hmm swapped for Valverde in a challenge trade?).
   6. rfloh  Posted: September 18, 2008 at 03:07 AM (#2945989)
Valverde is in Houston, tho BBRef has no record of any trade or signing...


BBRef updates that transaction list on a player's page, seemingly only in the next season after a guy gets traded. The DBacks traded Valverde for Qualls and Chris Burke.
   7. 1k5v3L, Useless  Posted: September 18, 2008 at 09:34 AM (#2946118)
It was Qualls, Burke and Juan Gutierrez. The Dbacks party line is that they traded Valverde to free up payroll for Haren... you know, they had already signed Eric Byrnes to below market rate of $10m/year for 3 years...

Pena is just inconsistent. Even last year he had ups and downs. Lyon just sucks, last year he gave up just a couple of home runs, which is unsustainable with his fly ball rate. He also stopped using his slider and changeup, being more of a fastball/curveball guy, and guys are just ignoring his curveball and creaming his fastball. Slaten blows, Schlereth can't get to the majors fast enough... and I really can't wait to see what Clay Zavada does in AA next year. Melvin just doesn't like Cruz so he doesn't use him in high leverage situations... really stupid. And Qualls is plain inconsistent, when he loses his slider, he gets creamed.
   8. shoewizard  Posted: September 18, 2008 at 10:44 AM (#2946192)
Check out Cruz on this PRI Report, relievers K/9

Of course, unfortunately, check out where he also ranks on the BB/9 Report
   9. shoewizard  Posted: September 18, 2008 at 05:39 PM (#2946850)
Huge win by LA today vs. Pittsburgh. If they lose that game, and the D Backs find a way to beat Lincecum tonight, the D Backs might start believing and the Dodgers might start pressing.

Oh well...at least their bullpen got another workout.
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