If the Rockies win, this could be a good omen for the Phils. In 1980, they had to wait out a tiebreaker between Houston and Los Angeles.

Robbie Hammock comes in as a pinch runner for Clark, stays at 1b and promptly makes two bone headed errors at 1b: failure to field a throw by Reynolds (error charged to Reynolds), then crappy fielding on what was ruled a hit for Holliday. There's even talk of putting Hammock on the post-season roster. Talk about a waste of space.

OK, it's now 4-1 Rockies as they are beating the crap out of Billy Murphy, the cockeyed optimist. A playoff game tomorrow at Coors for the wild card it is. I gotta admit, my heart isn't breaking over this one. Who would be the pitchers, Peavy vs. Morales?

Why is Lyon in the game now?

If Melvin decided not to use any of his better relievers today, that's one thing - but waiting until it's already 4-1, w/ the bases loaded and no out, to bring in one of the non-scrubs?

You know normally you're not supposed to put up one of these threads until the final game is over.

But yeah, this is some crazy exciting stuff. A half-inning to go and the Rox will be playing for the WC with Peavy going for the Padres. Wild horses couldn't make me miss that game.

At what channel and time would tomorrow's one game playoff be?

I don't know...that Reynolds throw was a tough one
I guess it's possible it could have been handled

But I have no problem giving Reynolds the error on that, he had loads of time

Why is Lyon in the game now?

I was wondering the same thing. Could it be that he's worried that the Padres will scowl in his direction if it looks like the Rockies had a victory handed to them? (Even though you'd think it's completely understandable to rest your top-tier guys with the #1 seed locked up.)

At what channel and time would tomorrow's one game playoff be?

Not sure about time but it will be on TBS.

Does that mean a mlb.tv blackout?

Edit: tying run to the plate in the 9th, I'm pretty sure this thread is a curse

Does that mean a mlb.tv blackout?

Most likely. Postseason play is only available to overseas subscribers using mlb.tv.

Blarg!

I don't get TBS
Sportsnet better be carrying this game

Thankfully we didn't curse them.

I was wondering the same thing. Could it be that he's worried that the Padres will scowl in his direction if it looks like the Rockies had a victory handed to them? (Even though you'd think it's completely understandable to rest your top-tier guys with the #1 seed locked up.)

The D-backs only need to say one word if the Padres even raise an eyebrow: Tomko.

Anyone know the time for the game?

Last year, TBS was hoping for a Yanks-Bosox tiebreaker (which it would have aired). This year, I'm sure it would've preferred Mets-Phils, but this is a pretty intriguing consolation prize.

As I mentioned in the Lounge, it would be hilarious if Holliday goes 0-for-5 tomorrow and loses the batting title.

Rockies' radio announce team just said a 5:37 PM MST first pitch in Colorado.

So 4:37 PST, 6:37 CST and 7:37 EST.

Rockies win! Rockies win! Just one more win tomorrow boys!!

Game time is 7:37PM EST, I think. (Rox announcers are saying 5:37PM so I'm just adjusting.)

#15 DCW3:

Actually, that's an interesting question: does tomorrow's game count towards regular season stats?

Official-ish confirmation from MLB.com:

The loss means the Padres are headed to Colorado -- a winner over Arizona on Sunday -- for a one-game playoff at 4:37 p.m. PT on Monday to determine the National League Wild Card winner.

13-1 down the stretch.

WTF is that?

that has to be the most amazing comeback .. ever.

the Friars did it to themselves. They were one strike away, and Tony Gwynn beat them. figures.


Jake tomorrow, so I would like to think there is hope .. but looking at 13-1 ... I am not so sure.


****!
just ****!

#19 - The '99 Mets-Reds game did, so yes.

Actually, that's an interesting question: does tomorrow's game count towards regular season stats?

yes!

If Jake dominates it should sew up the CY.

I'll be having an Alabama Slammer party tomorrow for sure.
Anybody know the recipe, I need to head to the store!

Alabama Slammer

I always thought it was Southern Comfort, Amaretto, Orange Juice

the Friars did it to themselves. They were one strike away, and Tony Gwynn beat them. figures.

Heh, I thought that was pretty ironic myself. God, I love this game.

Best Regards

John

I always thought it was Southern Comfort, Amaretto, Orange Juice

Good god. Sounds like an instrument of torture.

Got it. thanks

1/2 oz amaretto almond liqueur
1/2 oz Southern Comfort® peach liqueur
1/2 oz sloe gin
1 splash orange juice
1 splash sweet and sour mix

_____________
I was just reading the Mets thread, and suddenly I feel better.
we have hope.
we have HEART!

:)


lets go padres!

I don't get TBS
Sportsnet better be carrying this game

I'm pretty sure they are.

That said, in my experience with MLB.TV, nationally blacked-out games in the U.S. haven't been blacked out here in Canada. The game may still be available on MLB.TV up here.

'34 NL pennant race featured a streak similar to the Rockies'...

on Sept. 14 the Giants had a 5-1/2 game lead over the Cardinals with 14 games to play (15 left for StL)... and the Birds went 13-2 down the stretch, won the division by 2 games.

Jake tomorrow, so I would like to think there is hope ..

Uh, yeah. If starting the leading cy young candidate doesn't give you odds...

Last year, TBS was hoping for a Yanks-Bosox tiebreaker (which it would have aired).

Seriously? Because the Yankees had the division wrapped up in late August, so that was a bizzare thing to hope for.

Plus, wasn't ESPN still airing those games last season?

'34 NL pennant race featured a streak similar to the Rockies'...

on Sept. 14 the Giants had a 5-1/2 game lead over the Cardinals with 14 games to play (15 left for StL)... and the Birds went 13-2 down the stretch, won the division by 2 games.

The very next year, the Cubs were in third, 2.5 games behind, on Sept. 2nd. They then reeled off a streak of 21 straight wins, moving into first place, clinching the pennant, and building up a 6-game lead, before losing the final two meaningless games of the season.

'34 NL pennant race featured a streak similar to the Rockies'...

on Sept. 14 the Giants had a 5-1/2 game lead over the Cardinals with 14 games to play (15 left for StL)... and the Birds went 13-2 down the stretch, won the division by 2 games.

Division Gracie?

On the evening of Sep 2, 1935, the Cardinals led the NL by 2 games over the Giants and 2.5 over the Cubs. Over the next 24 games they took care of business, winning 15 of 24, and woke up on the morning of Sep 27....4 games behind the Cubs with 3 to play, the Cubs having won every game since Sep 2.

edit: Missed it by that much

I always thought it was Southern Comfort, Amaretto, Orange Juice

Good god. Sounds like an instrument of torture

.

Sounds more like Liquid Panty Remover

Can somebody please explain to me what would have happened if the Mets didn't choke and tied the Phillies, which also would have tied them with the Padres and Rockies for a 4 way tie for the wild card? Thanks

Given the jumbled mess that is the NL MVP race this year, is there any chance that Peavy puts himself right in the middle of it tomorrow? Let's say he throws a shutout in Colorado that puts his team in the postseason. That gives him 20 wins, an ERA of 2.27, and a heroic moment. I'm not saying that this is likely or that he should win the MVP if it happens, but you (or Joe Blow MVP voter) sure could make a case for him.

On the other hand, I suspect Jimmy Rollins may have sewn it up this afternoon with that darn 20th triple...

Just came back from Church to hear about the Rockies win and Padres loss. I taped the game and am very happy I did. Can't wait for tomorrow's game. I have school until 5 PM and will literally run home to watch the game.

5:37 start in Denver...what would the shadows be like at Coors at that time? I suppose they wouldn't be that much different than a 7:05 MT start in mid-June, aside from a slightly different angle.

a 7:05 MT start in mid-June, aside from a slightly different angle

Mid-June and late September/early October are the same, aren't they?

a 7:05 MT start in mid-June, aside from a slightly different angle

Mid-June and late September/early October are the same, aren't they?

Um, what?

Who would be the pitchers, Peavy vs. Morales?

I'm pretty sure it's Josh Fogg's turn. He was pretty great last time out, pitching into the seventh and not allowing a run, although it was just the Dodgers. He was 3-0, 3.25 ERA in September, if that counts for anything.

Oh, great, the Rockies fans will get to see the Fogg descend...

Even though I really don't have a bone in this fight, I'm pulling for the Padres...

The Rockies just scare the #### out of me right now.

Given the jumbled mess that is the NL MVP race this year, is there any chance that Peavy puts himself right in the middle of it tomorrow? Let's say he throws a shutout in Colorado that puts his team in the postseason. That gives him 20 wins, an ERA of 2.27, and a heroic moment. I'm not saying that this is likely or that he should win the MVP if it happens, but you (or Joe Blow MVP voter) sure could make a case for him.

On the other hand, I suspect Jimmy Rollins may have sewn it up this afternoon with that darn 20th triple...

My thinking on the MVP (not what it should be, but what it is likely to be) is now this: If Colorado beats San Diego tomorrow, which I expect and hope will happen, Matt Holliday wins the NL MVP. But if the Rockies lose, then Jimmy Rollins wins the MVP. Either way, Peavy gets the Cy Young. (I am assuming that all MVP voters will wait until after the SDP-COL game ends to submit their votes.)

I think I want the Rockies to win, because they're more likely to beat the Phillies.

I always thought it was Southern Comfort, Amaretto, Orange Juice

Good god. Sounds like an instrument of torture

Sounds more like Liquid Panty Remover

Well, see, Dave, that's where you're always thinking ahead of me. I was only focusing on the sure-to-make-me-gargle-my-bile flavor of this, um, concoction, while you're perceiving the significant ancillary benefits.

I'd still puke this stuff, though. Yeesh.

13-1 down the stretch.

WTF is that?

that has to be the most amazing comeback .. ever.

From memory - 1960 Yanks, 1964 Yanks, 1965 Dodgers, 1942 Cards, and 1935 Cubs. (goes to look up their stretch runs)

1960 NYY - Went 15-0 at end. Had been tied with Baltimore for the lead; won it by 8 games.
1964 NYY - Went 20-11 after being down by 5.5 and in third place. Or, I could say they went 17-9 after being down by 4.5. Won the pennant by a game.
1965 LAD - went 15-1 (including 8 shutouts!) to turn a 4.5 game deficit into a 2 game pennant win.
1942 STC - Went 38-6 after being down by 8 games. Won by 2 games.
1935 CHC - Went 21-2 to win he pennant. Actually, they won 21 straight games, then lost the last two after clinching the pennant.

Forcing a one-game playoff gets major style points, though. That one game was the only margin for error for most of a month.

1960 NYY - Went 15-0 at end. Had been tied with Baltimore for the lead; won it by 8 games.
1964 NYY - Went 20-11 after being down by 5.5 and in third place. Or, I could say they went 17-9 after being down by 4.5. Won the pennant by a game.
1965 LAD - went 15-1 (including 8 shutouts!) to turn a 4.5 game deficit into a 2 game pennant win.
1942 STC - Went 38-6 after being down by 8 games. Won by 2 games.
1935 CHC - Went 21-2 to win he pennant. Actually, they won 21 straight games, then lost the last two after clinching the pennant.

one of these things is not like the other .. ..
hint: The Rockies haven't won #### yet! ..

..
Oh and if anybody ever asks you, 'is San Diego is a football town or a baseball town'. It is a Football town.
Everybody I came in contact with this evening was upset that the Chargers lost. And I will be honest, I am not much of a football fan, I watch if no baseball is on sure, it is just not my thing. But people would ask if I watched the game, and I'd say a little, I was busy watching the Padres fall apart mostly. Then immediately after that I was screaming at my computer because Arizona scored two in the top of the ninth.

And the most common response was .. Oh the Padres lost?, so are they in Chicago ..

Chicago ..
everybody. Chicago
I hate the Cubs!!

I will refer the group to the 1951 Giants and 37-7.

Oh and if anybody ever asks you, 'is San Diego is a football town or a baseball town'. It is a Football town.

I agree to an extent. I think part of it, though, is that the Chargers are a big story: team with alleged Super Bowl talent coming off 14-2 season forces out coach, makes extremely controversial choice to replace him, apparently collapses. The Padres, OTOH, are where they always are: 80-some wins, edging into postseason. The Padres need to get to the LCS to really energize the casual fans out here.

Why is Lyon in the game now?


I was wondering the same thing. Could it be that he's worried that the Padres will scowl in his direction if it looks like the Rockies had a victory handed to them? (Even though you'd think it's completely understandable to rest your top-tier guys with the #1 seed locked up.)

When the Padres fell behind on Sunday, I had the misfortune of being in the car, so I got to hear Ted Leitner ##### out Melvin, and yet again, Grady Little, about "not respecting the game". It was a typical Leitner rant: smug, arrogant, gutless, hypocritical, and wrong. He ignored, as a poster said above, Black's decision to pitch Tomko. He ignored the fact that the Rockies swept the Padres in PETCO to tighten the race in the first place. He ignored the huge differences among the Marlins/Nationals, Dodgers, and Diamondbacks respective situations. He ignored the fact that the Padres had Hoffman on the mound, two outs in the 9th, two strikes on Tony Gwynn Jr., and could not get the job done, and ended with the ludicrous suggestion that the league mandate that all teams play all their regulars in any game that affects the race.

I am pulling for the Padres tonight, but the Rockies earned their way into this game and would have even if Melvin had punted yesterday--which he clearly did not.

Yes, Flynn, but the Giants were cheating.

Oh and if anybody ever asks you, 'is San Diego is a football town or a baseball town'. It is a Football town.

Denver is so much more a Broncos town than a Rockies town it isn't funny. That made it all the sweeter to see the Rockies plastered all over the front page of the paper today, with the Broncos relegated to a little refer at the top.

This could literally have been the first time the Rockies have ever gotten more coverage on a day when both teams played.

I was watching the Padres collapse also, although one good thing came from this I guess. I get to see Peavy pitch one more time before the playoffs to try and win his 20th game.

Let's go Padres!!

Just ####### win already!!

a 7:05 MT start in mid-June, aside from a slightly different angle

Mid-June and late September/early October are the same, aren't they?

mid-June, roughly the solstice: Sun at 23 degrees North declination, give or take.
October 1, a week+ since the equinox: Sun at 5 degrees south declination, give or take.

So, at noon on those dates, the Sun is about 28 degrees farther north in mid-June than today.

Sunset on June 15 in Denver: 8:30pm
Sunset on October 1 in Denver: 6:43pm

So, ballpark, tonight at first pitch the sun will be about 10-20 degrees high in the SW. On June 15, at 5:37pm, the sun was around 30-40 degrees high to the west (setting in the NW almost three hours later). A game that started at 7:30pm local time on June 15 would have a similar amount of time of play before sunset as the game tonight, but the sun would be about 30 degrees north (along the horizon). I've not been to the park in Denver but I would guess conditions will be quite different tonight as compared to a mid-June game.

I've not been to the park in Denver but I would guess conditions will be quite different tonight as compared to a mid-June game.

For one thing, it's gonna be cold. It's about 70 out now, but we've reached that time of year where the temperature drops a lot at night, and it could be about 50 after the sun goes down.