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"If we were playing non-contending teams, nobody would be saying a word," Piniella told reporters in New York before Thursday's loss to the Mets. "What's the sense of trying to take care of everybody else? Take care of yourself ..."
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Speaking as a Brewers fan, I agree 100% with this. It's the team's own danged fault that they're in this position. They should not have to depend on what Piniella decides to do or not do, and if they had been able to hit and/or field worth a nickel they wouldn't have to even bother themselves about it. So, no, at least one Brewers fan doesn't think it's bad sportsmanship. It's taking care of your team in lousy weather. Don't blame them one whit.
They're probably going to need him more tonight, if they actually hand Suppan the ball. I can't believe they're seriously considering letting him pitch in a critical series.
Ugh. Really bad mistake, IMHO. Not only would it be on short rest, it would be on short rest after he just threw the most pitches he's ever thrown in his career. It's one thing to ask a guy to be a hero. It's another thing to ask him to be a martyr. There's time enough for him to be a hero on Sunday.
Remember what worked for you last night, Jerry: you showed faith in your scrubs. You let Ramon Martinez and Robinson Cancel hit with the damn season on the line in the 8th inning. They rewarded you. You can use Knight and Figueroa and Niese for 2-3 innings each on Saturday if need be. Tell them each to give you whatever they've got as if it's once through the line-up, the best they can. Hold nothing back.
Then you'll have Santana at his best for the Fish on Sunday, when it will work and when it will matter. You throw him on Saturday, you're risking getting swept and the season being over. Don't be a numbskull.
Expecting Johan to perform miracles is also another matter. He just threw 125 pitches, something he's never done. You going to follow that up by asking him to pitch on short rest in his very next start? It's crazy. You almost HAVE to win his start. The chances of doing that are far, far better if he is at full strength than if he is battling the Marlins' line-up at 75% of himself.
As I said, asking Knight, Figueroa, and Niese to together pitch 5-6 innings -- basically, each of them going once through the order if things go even halfway well -- is not that much. They don't have to throw a damn no-no, or even a shutout over that many innings. If a guy knows he only has to go 3 innings, and face maybe 10-12 batters, he can really load up and just fire it. It's no guarantee of effectiveness, but it gives him a better shot at it. And then you have a far better chance on Sunday.
To me, it's not a hard call. It's especially not a hard call if they are still tied. That's the part I'm really stumped by -- that he might go with Johan even if they are still tied with the Brewers. I can kind of see it (though I strongly disagree) if they are a game donwwn. But tied? That one if unfathomable.
FWIW, Sausage, I have not seen a single Brewer fan complain about Piniella's handling of last night's game. It's been one whiny Phillie fan and one clinical Red Sox fan doing so in your name. (Well, actually, in the Phillies' name, but in the interest of not appearing completely self-interested, the Brewers' interests were invoked.)
Consider yourself fortunate. If the Cubs hadn't been lying down for the Mets, they would've made Santana throw even MORE pitches.
No, that's not exactly it. If Piniella were really acting only in the best interests of his team, he would have been resting a lot more players than he has since Monday. He probably wouldn't have started Harden at all, for example. I think saying "Piniella doesn't owe anyone else a damned thing" is greatly overstating it, and you all know that. If he had played nothing but September call-ups all week, most everyone, including MLB, would have been rightly outraged. So stop pretending he owes nothing to the integrity of the game. He clearly owes something, and he is aware of that. I'm a Brewer fan, and I think his managing the last few days has been fair and reasonable under the circumstances. But stop pretending that "whatever he wants to do" would have been acceptable.
Disagree. Harden needs some work to avoid being rusty for the postseason. He's going to get about a week's rest even with last night's start. If he didn't start last night, he'd be going into his first playoff start on about a 14-day layoff.
Fair point, but I don't know if he would have left him in for 98 pitches.
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