The media, sensationalizing an issue? Unheard of!

This will play well in the red states, though.

Another spoiled celebrity whining how hard this whole thing has been for him/her and the family after he brings 100% of it upon himself. Play me the world's smallest violin.

Guy who takes an illegal drug to treat an injury observes that he's being publicly and nationally treated at the level of a sex offender and he's a "spoiled celebrity whining?" Stay classy.

This will not play well in the red states. Nobody feels sorry for Yankees. It might work if he was in Houston.

I think the bigger story is that kevin was 31 minutes behind the original post. THIRTY-ONE MINUTES! That's Neifi territory for him.

This will not play well in the red states. Nobody feels sorry for Yankees. It might work if he was in Houston.

Even if their maligned by the mainstream media? It may be the case of the irresistable force meeting the immovable object.

I can't believe these vultures won't leave Andy alone. He graciously cleared this up a couple years ago:

“I haven’t done anything,” Pettitte said. “I guess reports are saying that I’ve used performance-enhancing drugs. I’ve never used any drugs to enhance my performance on the baseball field before. Like I said, I don’t know what else to say except that it is embarrassing that my name would be out there with this.”

Andy hasn't done anything. There is nothing to report.

He should throw grandma under the bus like Barack Obama did. The extra Y-chromosome set like Chris Mattews, Anderson Cooper and Keith Olbermann really ate up that shuck and jive routine.

Honest question: Is there any chance that a couple years ago, Andy thought HGH was just something to aid rehab, and not a performance enhancer?

And I know it's not clear whether HGH enhances performance anyway, right now I'm just curious about that above question.

He should throw grandma under the bus like Barack Obama did.

Barack Obama is a litmus test for Democrats. You either want someone who tells the truth (Obama) or someone who doesn't (Clinton). It's not the same for Obama v McCain or how Obama appeals to Independents, because there are legitimate policy differences. But unless you believe that universal health care is the be-all and end-all of your political decision-making, the only difference between Obama and Clinton is honesty, the difference between telling people what he really thinks or telling people what he thinks people want him to tell them. I can't believe the level of animosity that Obama generates for giving his honest opinion.

He should throw grandma under the bus like Barack Obama did. The extra Y-chromosome set like Chris Mattews, Anderson Cooper and Keith Olbermann really ate up that shuck and jive routine.

Man, I'm sick of the liberal bias on this site.

I can't believe the level of animosity that Obama generates for giving his honest opinion.

Well, the only other political post of schuey's that I have seen was one saying that "Even for a Democrat" Jimmy Carter is "a foul, condescinding" (sic) and I think schuey said "creature." There was another adjective in there--"loathsome" or "arrogant", I think.

So his take on Obama's speech is about as surprising as Denny McLain's recent arrest was.

I don't know robin - I expected bile, I didn't expect such straightforwardly racist bile.

Stop judging bile by its color. Its wily, inscrutable yellow color.

He should throw grandma under the bus like Barack Obama did...

It's better to throw your "gramdma" under the bus than over 4,000 US soldiers (and countring), over a trillion dollars of taxpayers' money (and counting), and the country's strategic interests in the region by handing Shia Iraq to Shia Iran, under the bus, the way Bush/McCain have.

Man, I'm sick of the liberal bias on this site.

Nice faux whining, robinred.

Nice faux whining, robinred

Thanks. I thought it was nice, too.

Stop judging bile by its color. Its wily, inscrutable yellow color.

RDF.

Man, I'm sick of the liberal bias on this site.

OMG, somebody who doesn't like Obama, that proves this site doesn't have a liberal bias! It's science!

OMG, somebody who doesn't like Obama, that proves this site doesn't have a liberal bias! It's science!

I'll respond to this after I get back from Whole Foods.

And, while there is a lot of Bush-bashing here, the recent political/election threads have been pretty evenly balanced, I think.

Bashing President Bush isn't indicative of any ideology other than not being a neo-conservative.

Bashing President Bush isn't indicative of any ideology other than not being a neo-conservative.

Yep. That's part of why I don't think the site is tilted as far left as others do--hence the little throwaway jokes.

he's being publicly and nationally treated at the level of a sex offender

Except that he won't be required to report any residence change to the local police authorities and have it posted on the internet and he will be allowed to attend his childrens' athletic events or concerts or plays or recitals and not have to have police and local school board permission to attend a parent teacher conference or step on school grounds for any other reason and other minor stuff like that.

Except that he won't be required to report any residence change to the local police authorities and have it posted on the internet and he will be allowed to attend his childrens' athletic events or concerts or plays or recitals and not have to have police and local school board permission to attend a parent teacher conference or step on school grounds for any other reason and other minor stuff like that.

But just imagine how much of a deterrent all of this would be! I have this image of Pettitte going door to door letting his neighbors know that he's a PED offender.

Bashing President Bush isn't indicative of any ideology other than not being a neo-conservative.

Bashing President Bush isn't indicative of any ideology other than not being a blithering idiot.

Fixed that.

Guy who takes an illegal drug to treat an injury observes that he's being publicly and nationally treated at the level of a sex offender and he's a "spoiled celebrity whining?"

And if you believe that, then I have this neat bridge I want to sell you.

I think I get where you're coming from. I'll pass, thanks. On the bridge and on your supremely qualified and most logical insight. I get the sense this discussion's been done already.

letting his neighbors know that he's a PED offender.

Would that make him a PED-o-phile?

Honest question: Is there any chance that a couple years ago, Andy thought HGH was just something to aid rehab, and not a performance enhancer?



No. None.

I was hoping for a response from an intelligent person, but this'll have to do.

I can't believe the level of animosity that Obama generates for giving his honest opinion.

Really? In a country where the only thing likely to cost a candidate an election is telling the truth? Where the dogma of American Exceptionalism gives us the right to torture, but forbids national introspection? As many Americans believe in angels as in evolution. We don't do truth here, Russ.

Honest question: Is there any chance that a couple years ago, Andy thought HGH was just something to aid rehab, and not a performance enhancer?

I think that has pretty much been Andy's answer since day three.

Day 1 was denial
Day 2 was denial
Day 3 was "something to aid rehab, not a performance enhancer".

I rarely agree with Kevin on anything, especially steroids stuff, but i do here.
Andy knew what he was doing.

I can't believe the level of animosity that Obama generates for giving his honest opinion.

I really don't understand this quote. You think the fact that it was his honest opinion is supposed to mitigate animosity towards that opinion? You must be an Obama supporter. That's almost comically stereotypical.

(That's not to say anything about the opinion -- just the notion that sincerity is a substitute for agreement.)

Gambling, from what we know about Pettitte -- and what we know may, of course, be very very incomplete -- he did use hGH only when he was hurt. That might suggest he viewed it that way. Yes, he lied later about whether he used, but that doesn't mean he didn't view it that way at the time. It just means he recognized later that other people viewed it as a PED.

The president currently has a 32% approval rating. I don't think criticizing Bush is as indicative of one's political affiliation as you think it is.

It depends what one's criticism of Bush is. If one criticizes him for spending far too much money on liberal big government programs, one is probably not a liberal. If one criticizes him for not being tough enough on illegal immigration, one is probably not a liberal. The fact that someone disapproves of a politician doesn't mean he's disapproving from the liberal direction.

Following this Mitchell Report offseason, imagine if Andy Pettitte were observably smaller? And was off to a terrible start? And was the DH for Boston? Whee, uninformed speculation is always fun.

As for Pettitte, cry me a river about his children's horror over "the way the media portrayed it." He's still a sitting member of the media's official "good guy" club, which informs the coverage. If anything, he's gotten lighter treatment than he might have.

Pettitte's been treated like a saint. He's really got nothing at all to complain about.

I really don't understand this quote. You think the fact that it was his honest an accurate opinion is supposed to mitigate animosity towards that opinion?

Fixed it.

David. I think when Andy asked about the "Strong Stuff", that pretty much settled it in my mind.

It could it have been part of the fabrications Andy kept tossing out, sure. Or maybe I misunderstood the information and it was McNamee that said "strong stuff" about Pettitte. I could very well have been wrong, it was a whirlwind of information this winter.

But Pettitte asking for the "strong stuff", his repeated denials when confronted in the past, and then even remembering specific conversations years back about the subject with his wife, tells me he knew what he was doing all along.

Of course, I do agree with Andy though. The media went way, way overboard with the whole situation. I will always believe that.
Quite honestly it reminds me of what i have read about Reefer Madness, and the Hollywood Communist's of the 40's and 50's.

Its sad actually.
they are just ballplayers man.