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This edict presumably will extend to Randy Levine's statement that managers now require incentives in his contract. Somehow I don't think that will be applied to the new manager.
It has really become the amateur hour in Tampa. Yankee fans can only hope Brian Cashman regains control quickly.
Is the new manager going to be paid $7.5 million? Is he going to be paid $5 million and incentives? It's fine if you think that Torre was the best man for the job and the Yankees made a big mistake in not paying whatever it took to keep him. But that doesn't make Hank Steinbrenner a hypocrite for saying what he did in the quoted passage.
I think it's abundantly clear that the people running the Yankees now do not want to operate under the burden of expecting to win it all every year. Reducing the manager's salary, whether it was Joe Torre or someone else, was a step towards lowering those expectations.
Again, you may think that's a bad move, but it's not a double standard.
All players 32 or older:
Posada
Giambi
Jeter
A-Rod
Matsui
Damon
Abreu
<strike>Minky</strike>
<strike>Cairo</strike>
Molina
Mussina
<strike>Clemens</strike>
Petitte
Rivera
<strike>Vizcaino</strike>
<strike>Myers</strike>
<strike>Villone</strike>
That's <strike>17</strike> 11 players out of 25. <strike>17</strike> 11. Count 'em.
Why even bother trying, it's just kevin being kevin.
I think he just called his dad stupid.
Honestly, your team is in the World Series and the best thing you have to discuss is gloating over of a theortical Yankee decline? Weak.
The thing about Hank, though, is that his pronouncements on the young players have followed the Cashman line, but the young players aren't the difference between making and missing the postseason. They don't project ot be particularly great next year - it's the right thing for the long run to pitch Kennedy, but counting on any more than 150 IP, 4.50 ERA, seems pretty foolish.
What will make the difference is re-signing all of Rivera, Posada, and ARod. (It's possible they could do without Rivera, but I don't think it would be a good idea.) The other two, though, will cost the Yankees several wins apiece unless they lock them up. If he acts like as big a jackass in negotiations with star players as he did in negotiations with Torre, the Yankees could easily miss the playoffs next year.
I don't expect this to happen - Cashman surely knows how important the veterans are, and the Yankees have incredible large piles of money. But Hank's ill-advised comments about Rodriguez "good-bye!" give me a little bit of hope.
Where did you get that roster Kevin? Myers was DFA'd in August, replaced by Joba, IIRC. Cairo finished the year in the national league, essentially replaced by Betemit.
I mean, do a little homework.
Well, they do have Wilson Betemit and Shelley Duncan, 25 and 27 respectively who could play important roles off the bench or at first base. They can probably work in Alberto Gonzalez as a utility infielder and Brett Gardner as a fifth OF if needs warrant it.
it's the right thing for the long run to pitch Kennedy, but counting on any more than 150 IP, 4.50 ERA, seems pretty foolish.
ERA seems about right (I've got him projected at 4.36 but I wouldn't be shocked to see him closer to 5.00) but Kennedy did throw 165 innings last year. I don't see why he couldn't build up to 180 or so. I think Joba and Hughes will both be restricted to 150-160 though.
The other two, though, will cost the Yankees several wins apiece unless they lock them up.
Yeah, probably 8-10 wins between the two of them. I want them to keep Rivera for sentimental reasons, even if they have to overpay him for his actual field worth.
I agree. They've got big shoes to fill in Minky and Miggy.
Who are they going to trade?
Some of the dozens of pitchers they've got on the farm?
If Derek Jeter went on the market, there are many, many teams call to inquire. But he isn't on the market, so this is silly.
I think we all want to get younger. For the Yankees, I don't particularly care if they get younger. I just want them to get better.
The very fact that Melky's not a cornerstone means he can be traded BTW.
To: Donnie Baseball
From: The Understanding Guys Upstairs
Two out of every three will be just fine.
Regards,
Hank and Randy
Sounds like a C&W hit in the making. Maybe a comeback number for Garth Brooks.
Right, I forgot Red Sox don't age.
kevin, you're getting way too giddy about the blather coming from Hank. Wait until the Yanks make a move or two before buying a pair of binoculars to watch the Yankees ship sink from the comfort of the cliff. They still have lots of money and lots of pitching prospects and most likely A-Rod coming back as well as Posada and Rivera. That's a formidable foundation. If and when Hank starts ####### things up for real, we'll all be here with you for one giant orgy of schadenfreude. Meanwhile, revel in the glory of the ass whuppin your boys put on the Children of God last night.
naw we just kick 'em to the curb when they get too old. see: pedro, millar, nixon, mueller, etc. exceptions for: fearless captains.
Look, the Sox are great right now, and if they win the Series, they will have deserved to do so in an unassailable way.
But Beckett has kept them afloat this postseason. Schilling's old and a FA. I honestly don't know how to project Matsuzaka in 2008. I'm not tremendously sure that the Sox are an emerging dynasty.
Who will replace Lowell's production? Because I don't think 2008 Lowell can duplicate 2007 Lowell.
Drew will be better, because he has to be.
but you're not unsure? so, if you had to say ... are they or are they not an emerging dynasty?
Your definition of better doesn't match mine.
<u>Offense</u>
Pedroia: +13/650 PA (park-adjusted position-adjusted batting runs using linear weights)
Cano: +14/650 PA
<u>Defense</u>
Pedroia: Zone Rating of .833. 4 plays made above average, 3 runs saved above average per 162 games.
Cano: Zone Rating of .846. 11 plays made above average, 9 runs saved above average per 162 games.
13 + 3 = 16
14 + 9 = 23
FWIW, UZR likes Cano's defense even more than zone rating.
manny and drew will bounce back, ellsbury will be an upgrade over crisp, and if lugo doesn't improve, maybe jed lowrie gets a chance to show what he has.
While they're not old, they're not stupendously young.
They play in a tough division.
I don't think a lot of their players seem "on the verge" of a career year.
when you cherry-pick the data just right, pedroia's offense is comparable to pujols. but, i'm not giving away my secrets ... you'll probably just use them for evil.
Has to be a defensive downgrade in center though. Crisp was pretty amazing out there.
Thanks.
not by much, if any. to call ellsbury fast is an understatement.
Don't forget, we'll have Buchholz, a top 5 prospect in baseball, in the rotation for the majority of the season. Masterson can come up at season's end and play a large role.
A rotation of Beckett, Matsuzaka, Buck, Lester, and Wakefield will be more than fine.
I see you caught last night's episode of Pardon My Zinger
Ellsbury must be Ken Dryden or something to have his rookie woes out of the way next year despite still being a rookie.
huh?
All offseason, every offseason. I don't know why anyone responds to him, I don't think he's being serious, just looking to draw out some response. Look at posts 32, 52, 53, and 57. He's obviously not serious.
Can anyone even imagine the buzz for the first Chamberlain-Buchholz matchup? It might result in the first $10,000 scalped regular season ticket.
2008 "Red Sox" that will be 32 and older in 2008:
Varitek
Lowell
Lugo
Drew
Ortiz
Cora
Ramirez
Mirabelli
Wakefield
Schilling
Tavarez
Okajima
Timlin
Why that's 13 out of 25!!! The Sawx's 3-4-5-6-7 hitters! 40% of their rotation! Who cares that half of them are free agents or retiring? The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
After May 29th, the Yankees were about 12 games better than the Red Sox this year. Why should next year be so difficult? Is kevin assuming 80% of the Yanks starting rotation (and some of their replacements) will lose time to injury every year? Is kevin assuming Boston is guaranteed another virtually injury free season? Another 3rd place finish for the Red Sox is as likely as a Yankee demise.
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