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Is that even legal?
For the most part, the pitching has performed as expected... a lot of their problems are on the offensive side of the ball, which is not where anyone thought they'd be.
I was just thinking the same thing. I am sure I heard the same quotes from Sr. 20 years ago (except for the Rays references).
This isn't taking pressure off the club. It's adding to it. Now, along with the other crap questions, every player is going to be asked what they think of his comments. And Cash will have to field even more. It's just dumb.
Hank's point: I don't care about how much talent anyone has, or if they're hurt, or older. I paid my money, I wants me a shiny championship to show off at the yacht club! And get off my lawn!
Now, your larger point about the pressure on the team may or may not be valid, but at the moment Hank is still all sound and fury.
That's not fair. Wisinski (I may have spelled that wrong) has been a Rays fan posting here for years. And he's all I can think of. So, uh, to him that's not fair.
This. Shortly before the season started, there was a thread here where we opined on which Yankee player was the most irreplaceable. Opinion was split between A-Rod and Posada, and now here we are. Barring some of the other Yankees stepping up with a monstrous year, they probably are pretty close to a .500 team without those two.
I know everyone is down on Cano, but personally, I can't believe Abreu. He's got a 350 OBP with little to no power, that's got to be killing them. And I think he's below average defensively. He's supposed to be a "star" out there.
Well, if they were a 94-96 win team before, A Rod is probably 8-9 wins above replacement, and Posada 6-7 wins above replacement.
The current replacements are a little bit above replacement, so I could see them as a .500 team w/o the 2 for the full season.
Cano is going to be ok, but Abreu looks done. he started terribly last year, and this season looks no different.
He is a FA at the end of the year, and OF is one place I could see the Yankees signing someone. Therefore, Adam Dunn is going to get PAID. Maybe not by the Yankees, but if they Yankees are thought to be in the market, it just increases the bidding. Carl Crawford shouldn't have signed that extension, he would have gotten Vernon Wells money.
Hi.
deJesus Freak aka Fred Garvin has had TB as his AL team for the last few years.
I need an AL team to root for anyhow, and after a couple of things I may or may not remember happening in Ybor City, Tampa gets my vote.
All of which is a long way of saying it's too soon to close the book on him.
Abreu may be done as a star and overpaid for what he brings, but 287/355/427 still makes him at least an average rightfielder in a league that's only hitting 259/329/394.
I swear, some of you guys are really spoiled when it comes to offense. Come to Baltimore and watch Kevin Millar or Jay Payton and you'll see what "done" is.
Yeah, Abreu isn't the problem... I'd be surprised if he isn't at least league average when it's all said and done. Wonder what the Yank's are planning with respect to RF for next year? None of the guys down the farm look ready for 09. Matsui can barely handle LF, and Damon's arm doesn't play in CF, let alone RF. A defensive outfield of Matsui in LF, Damon in CF, and Melky in RF is scary in 09. Not sure how adding Adam Dunn helps the situation.
Derek Jeter.
he's got an OPS+ of 116 to date. Declaring that he'll be league average this year is a pretty weak prediction. :)
Sure he's been in slow decline since winning the AS HR contest, but he's not toasted yet.
Except when they play the Jays.
Does Jeter know yet? I could see this being a dramabomb of epic proportions.
I think we also need to make allowances for:
Toby Hall's #1 Fan
Vince Naimoli's Ethics
BubbaTrammellBacker
Brian It's a Rekar
The Grieving Process
Toolsy McAbernathy
So should your mom.
My thought process is that Girardi was brought in to shake up the player first clubhouse Torre set up. His first big position move was to make Matsui a DH after he openly complained about it last year. I have to think moving Jeter is around the corner and that Girardi is the guy to do that and may have been brought in because of his willingness to do it.
I think we also need to make allowances for:
Toby Hall's #1 Fan
Vince Naimoli's Ethics
BubbaTrammellBacker
Brian It's a Rekar
The Grieving Process
Toolsy McAbernathy
Awesome Howard, nice work.
Ummmm ... Every now & then I go & watch the AA team here in Montgomery. (Saw what was probably Kazmir's debut for the organization a few years ago after the infamous trade.) This is the 3rd year I've had Kazmir on my (non-keeper-league, I hasten to add) team, & Carlos Pena was a waiver-pickup godsend last year in my replication of the Miracle Braves' sprint from the midseason cellar to the championship.
Dunno if I qualify, but that's my case.
Go Rays! Hooray for Kazmar and Karl Crawford and...whathisname, you know, the little Asian. I like him too.
Oh, I'd be pissed at myself if I didn't mention that Brett Gardner is having a breakout season in AAA this year, .288/.381/.449. I don't know if that translates to average for center or not, but he might be capable of contributing next year if this power boost is real. He doesn't have the instincts to be a great defender, but he's got the foot speed and ability to be a good CFer. Melky in RF, Gardner in center, Damon in right would be low on power, but really good defensively and a good group of table setters. The Yanks would need a real first baseman though. And we'll have to see if Gardner can keep up the power surge for the entire year.
As others have noted, this is right out of Big George's playbook, the old football analogies and the idea that the team is losing because they're not playing hard. They're playing hard, but they're banged up and Tampa's a pretty talented young team (not just trying hard, but they have real talent now).
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/D/Jeff-Duncan.shtml
I don't think Gardner is some great prospect or anything, but he got to AAA about a year quicker than Duncan. And in limited time, he's done better than Duncan ever did in AAA.
I'm not convinced Gardner is any better than replacement level in the bigs, but I could be wrong. Teixeira would be a fine fit at 1st, but I'm afraid he'll expect to be paid like the superstar he's not. I'd be shocked if he doesn't come out asking for at least 8 years/$160 million.
Nor am I, it's just something I thought I would throw out there, if he has a full season, or at least more than a month and a half, like that at AAA, it'll be worth revisiting.
I'd be shocked if he doesn't come out asking for at least 8 years/$160 million.
I'll be pretty surprised if a guy with one top ten MVP finish, one All-star appearance and a slow start to the season commands that much. I don't think he's perceived as being as great as statheads perceive his perception to be. Or something like that.
You got it right.
Brickhaus, who posts occasionally (as Scott Spiezio's Fuschia Soulpatch) here, is a Rays fan. I had no idea that DJF was now Fred Garvin, I thought he vanished completely. There's also JoeRays though I don't think he really posts, just submits articles. I think buddaley is also a Rays fan.
The only way he's getting anywhere close to that is if a team throws out an extreme outlier offer (like the Angels did with Hunter last year). Unless I'm mistaken, Manny and A-Rod are still the only 20+ AAV guys, right?
Sometimes it seems like Teixeira gets all kinds of love nationally for being great, sometimes it's almost like he doesn't exist. I'd say that he is actually a bit of a disappointment compared to his original hype though, he has generally been excellent but never really a superstar. Never slugged .600 and only one .400 OBP despite almost all of his career being in Arlington. Splitting hairs I guess but he's nowhere close to the level of someone like Pujols.
Until the backlash, that is.
I did prefer the Satan worshipping version of the team. And as a SCUBA enthusiast, I was sad to see the Devil Ray logo go.
So...let me be the first counter-revolutionary. Eff the Rays!
And as a SCUBA enthusiast, I was sad to see the Devil Ray logo go.
SCUBA rocks.
If the Yanks sign Tex for 8/140, they won't win another division until the 2020s.
In any case, I'll put myself in the Rays fanhood category. I even wore a Devil Rays cap to Fenway a few years ago and watched Hideo Nomo give up a grand slam to Big Papi. Ah, the bad old days.
...But not derivative of the Mariners?
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