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Friday, May 09, 2008

N.Y. Sun: Barra: In Rare Case, Jim Bouton Finds Life After Sports

From Bulldog Bouton to Bulldog Drummond…

On the subject of the building of the new Yankee Stadium and the fate of the old — don’t get him started. “The whole thing is just outrageous,” he told the audience at Film Forum. “It’s a total disgrace, and a perfect example of the failure of democracy. Why did we need a new Yankee Stadium if, with the old one, the Yankees were leading the league in attendance?

“Who wanted Yankee Stadium torn down? Not the fans who buy the tickets, and not the taxpayers, who are going to foot much of the bill just so they can pay higher ticket prices for the fewer seats that are available. I think it was said best by one of the main culprits in all of it, Rudolph Giuliani. When someone asked him ‘Why aren’t the fans allowed to vote for this new stadium?’ he said, ‘Because they’d vote against it.’”

Aren’t you afraid, an audience member wanted to know, that mouthing off about the new Yankee Stadium will get you banished all over again? “Oh, heck,” he said with a wave of his hand, “let the chips fall.”

Repoz Posted: May 09, 2008 at 09:24 AM | 12 comment(s)
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   1. curmudgeon66 Posted: May 09, 2008 at 10:36 AM (#2774543)
Page 1 of this article was really interesting, but it's a shame there seems to be no way to get to pages 2 and 3. Clicking on either "Next" or "2" takes you to the home page of the NY Sun. There you can click on the headline link to the article, read page 1, and then be sent back to the home page. Pity.
   2. So's my mom! Oh wait...(Met Fan Charlie) Posted: May 09, 2008 at 10:42 AM (#2774553)
I've said it ever since I read Ball Four as a teenager, and in my perfect New Jersey argot: Ya gotta love 'dis guy...
   3. Repoz Posted: May 09, 2008 at 11:00 AM (#2774574)
curmudgeon66...fixed it with print page.
   4. scareduck Posted: May 09, 2008 at 11:02 AM (#2774578)
Good for him.
   5. B. Selig Posted: May 09, 2008 at 11:10 AM (#2774584)
Is that even legal?
   6. Toolsy McClutch Posted: May 09, 2008 at 11:19 AM (#2774590)
Bouton also thinks he's responsible for Clemens cheating on his wife, and why you can't get a good back bacon on a bun anymore.

Holy exaggerated sense of worth Batman!
   7. So's my mom! Oh wait...(Met Fan Charlie) Posted: May 09, 2008 at 12:03 PM (#2774631)
He was a delegate to the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1972; worked as a television sportscaster for WABC and WCBS; wrote or edited four more books (including a novel, "Strike Zone," with Eliot Asinof in 1994), and started two successful companies, Big League Chew, which makes a chewing gum to replace chewing tobacco, and Big League Cards, which makes personalized, professional-quality baseball cards.



What? No mention of the wildly unsuccessful sitcom version of Ball Four in which he starred?
   8. RB in NYC (Now with an Apartment!) Posted: May 09, 2008 at 12:07 PM (#2774635)
One of Bouton's book, maybe one of the Ball Four updates had a section about his Hollywood adventures. He's fond of his work in The Big Sleep but basically concedes the Ball Four sitcom was a disaster from day one.
   9. kevin Posted: May 09, 2008 at 12:07 PM (#2774636)
When someone asked him ‘Why aren’t the fans allowed to vote for this new stadium?’ he said, ‘Because they’d vote against it.’”


RDF. Is that really true?
   10. Belfry Bob Posted: May 09, 2008 at 01:54 PM (#2774744)
Yeah, I've read that quote elsewhere.

You do have to ask yourself what the real reasons are for the new place, and they sure have nothing to do with Joe Fan or the general populace of NY. But George says it's because Yankee fans shouldn't have to wait in long lines to go to the bathroom or long lines in narrow concourses for food, etc.

Right.

Don't know about other cities, but I know that Baltimore supposedly did genuine research into 'saving' Memorial Stadium before making plans for Camden Yards. The result was allegedly that the crumbling concrete was essentially 'unfixable' in the long run. Whether or not it was really true, who knows?

Jim's been a fave of mine since Ball Four and his brief time in Richmond as an R-Brave when I was working in marketing for the club in my 20's. A really bright, interesting, fun guy. I just finally got around to reading 'Foul Ball', his book on the attempt to save a ballpark in his current town and how he ran afoul of local politicians, bankers, and even General Electric. interesting stuff.
   11. Gary Geiger Counter and the Malaska Pipeline Posted: May 09, 2008 at 02:00 PM (#2774753)
It was The Long Goodbye, RB.

Todd Erdos played with Craig Shipley for the 1997 San Diego Padres
Craig Shipley played with Cesar Cedeno for the 1986 Los Angeles Dodgers
Cesar Cedeno played with Jim Bouton for the 1970 Houston Astros
Jim Bouton was in Long Goodbye, The (1973) with Arnold Schwarzenegger
Arnold Schwarzenegger was in Running Man, The (1987) with Jim Brown
Jim Brown played with Frank Ryan on the Cleveland Browns
Frank Ryan coauthored a paper with Andrew M. Bruckner
Andrew M. Bruckner coauthored with Roy O. Davies
Roy O. Davies coauthored with Paul Erdös.
   12. RB in NYC (Now with an Apartment!) Posted: May 09, 2008 at 02:03 PM (#2774756)
It was The Long Goodbye, RB
I knew The Big Sleep wasn't right. But I also knew that I wasn't going to bother to look it up, because someone here could (and would) correct me. Thanks, GGC.
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