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Or as Cano the Elder once said…“Patience is the greatest of all virtuoso-so.”
In some weird inversion of Mae West’s “When I’m good, I’m very good, but when I’m bad I’m better,” when Cano is very good he isn’t really all that good, and when he’s bad he’s terrible. Cano’s utter lack of interest in working the count or taking ball four, when combined with his streaky results, so-so power, and lack of speed, means that even at his best he makes a ton of outs and doesn’t get on base all that often compared to the average player. The results are still above average, especially when compared with your typical second baseman, but the results are also deceptive and prone to being overrated. When Cano slumps, he’s worse than a cup of hot hemlock for the offense. Compare him to a Yankee at the opposite extreme of the patience spectrum, Jason Giambi. Giambi might slump and bat .200 for a few weeks, but due to his walks he’ll still reach base in more than a third of his plate appearances, and one of those two hits in 10 that he gets will be a home run. When Cano slumps, as he has unfortunately shown for the whole season, he has no redeeming features at bat. With .238/.264/.327 rates with runners on base, Cano has killed more rallies than a Brezhnev-era Warsaw Pact tank crew on a Saturday night in downtown Prague. Though Cano will likely rebound from this season and hit .300 again, there will always be a hard ceiling on his offensive abilities.
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Posted: September 16, 2008 at 01:14 PM | 29 comment(s)
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Zing! I wonder how long Goldman's been sitting on that one waiting for the right opportunity. :)
I'd like to see some support for this statement. Like anything to suggest Cano wasn't really all that good in 2006 and 2007.
Cano’s utter lack of interest in working the count or taking ball four, when combined with his streaky results, so-so power, and lack of speed, means that even at his best he makes a ton of outs and doesn’t get on base all that often compared to the average player.
Except in 2006 and 2007, when he was 24 and 15 points above league average in getting on base.
When Cano slumps, he’s worse than a cup of hot hemlock for the offense. Compare him to a Yankee at the opposite extreme of the patience spectrum, Jason Giambi. Giambi might slump and bat .200 for a few weeks, but due to his walks he’ll still reach base in more than a third of his plate appearances, and one of those two hits in 10 that he gets will be a home run.
Yes, Cano is a worse hitter than the guy who has been one of the (guessing) ten best hitters in the AL over the last decade and has almost unparalled plate discipline.
With .238/.264/.327 rates with runners on base, Cano has killed more rallies than a Brezhnev-era Warsaw Pact tank crew on a Saturday night in downtown Prague.
That's pretty funny.
Though Cano will likely rebound from this season and hit .300 again, there will always be a hard ceiling on his offensive abilities.
Just like 95% of all other players. We get it, he's only as good as his batting average. But he's been unlucky this year in that regard and he's capable of (although he hasn't exactly done it this year) of being a very good defensive second baseman. He is still a valuable commodity, even with this lousy, lousy year, he's just not a franchise player. Next year he'll be 26.
That's pretty funny.
And Jeter has been hotter than Jan Palach in Wenceslas Square.
Nothing is more frustrating than a Pat Burrell Czech swing on strike 3.
Don't worry, it was only a Prague Spring Training game.
That's the heart & soul of last year's best NL team right there
And it allows them to get rid of a clubhouse cancer
this all-time Yankee great says hi
you're right--they were Mel Allen's
this all-time Yankee great says hi
Compared to Richardson's .299, Billy Martin's was .300-so he's in.
Indeed. Just savor that 1961 batting line for a moment, if you will. Richardson usually led off and ran up 706 PA. Maris and Mantle, usually batting third and fourth, combined for 270 RBI. Of the 270, Richardson scored ... 80.
Slowly..I..burn...step..by..step..
EDIT: For their WS rivals, the Reds, Don Blasingame had an OBP of .286, starting 110 games, 68 batting leadoff, 42 batting second. It was a 60s thing.
I had satellite radio in a rental car for about a week in June. At that time Kellerman was arguing that Cano had been unlucky so far this season. I guess luck doesn't always even out.
That said his radio show is really good.
Not meant to be snarky. Just trying to see the different scenarios for the Yankee off season.
If the Yankees traded him now, it would be selling extremely low.
I don't think they have other internal 2B options; they'd have to acquire one.
I think you have to let him play; re-evaluate (and possibly trade) him during a .340 campaign.
I think this is a single bad year, not a cliff dive.
I guess I cared about "my team' winning at the time...but what pissticked me off was constantly getting my ass kicked in Challenge the Yankees with the Richardson card leading off vs the NL All-Stars.
Richardson's .294 OBP against Vada Pinson's .347 was not very fair.
Not to be overly nitpicky but - M&M;actually batted in "only" 155 teammates (and Bobby was batted in 77x), and with the Mick on base for Roger over 230 times, I suspect lots of that 155 stayed within those two. (And Kubek batting 2nd got on nearly 200 times as well and was batted in 76 times.) Still, it's hard to understand how few times Richardson scored, given that he reached base about 250 times in front of all that thunder.
he reached base 205 times in 1961
I'm pretty sure that Maris batted ahead of Mantle more often than not.
SI's Jon Heyman, on the air with Francesa this afternoon, said based on his conversations with Yankee brass that an off-season trade of Cano was possible, and suggested they could sign the O-Dog to replace him. The only thing missing was Byrnes!
I believe the Dbacks and Yankees discussed a trade involving Hudson and Cano a year or two back, but the Yankees didn't go for it. It's a shame Cashman is so stubborn. Hopefully he moves over and lets Hanky-Panky take over...
Correct. Mantle batted 4th with Maris in front of him. Maris hit his 61 HRs without drawing an intentional walk all season.
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