‘‘I don’t give a [expletive] what people think about me,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘I win 200 games in two years, and nobody ever mentions that. Well, if you’re not going to give me credit when the team wins ... that made me think, ‘Wow, what kind of life are we living?’ My team wins 200 games, I didn’t have a losing season, and they treat me that way.
‘‘Then if you’re a nice guy, they are going to treat you the same way. [Expletive] it, be an ####### then. I would rather be an ####### winning than be a nice guy [expletive] losing. Give me an ####### who can win, don’t give me a nice guy who can [expletive] lose.’‘
In picking apart the 2007 White Sox, plenty of things went wrong. A popular knock among the critics is this team that had been known for thriving with a chip on its shoulder suddenly was too nice.
‘‘They’re right,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘You cover this ballclub last year, you say, ‘Wow, what a nice team to cover.’ No, it’s not fun to cover a team like that. Well, it’s not fun to [expletive] manage a team like that, either.
‘‘We stunk last year.’‘
...’‘If my [stuff] sells papers every day and we win, well, I want to be on the front page every day,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘As long as I don’t rape anybody, as long a I pay my taxes, I don’t beat my wife ... if I am going to be on the front page of the newspaper because of [expletive] baseball, I will take that.
‘‘If more people treat baseball the way I treat baseball, this [expletive] game will be better.’‘
Repoz
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Pretty high standards.
Why's he an #######? Ozzie's the ####### man, and a pretty decent manager to boot. The slightly-more-than-average amount of sacrafice bunts are a little bothersome, but he (generally) handles the pitching staff pretty well, the players like him -- has any former player called him out after leaving the organization? Maybe Damaso Marte? -- and he keeps things interesting. I really couldn't ask for anything more from a manager.
He is probably counting the 11 post-season wins in 2005 too.
Magglio Ordoñez.
Did Ordonez call out Ozzie? I'm fairly certain Maggs' ire was directed at Kenny for the way he left the organization (knee injury, the hiring of Boras, extension talks etc) and then Ozzie -- most likely unneccesarily -- stuck his neck in and called out Magglio.
Anyways, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a quote or insuation from Ordonez saying he didn't like playing for Guillen (although I certainly could have missed it).
This will likely be Ozzie's last season in Chicago
Do you have any basis for saying that? Probably not?
They gave him a 5-year extension just a few months ago. He's not going anywhere. Neither is Kenny, unless he steps down. Never underestimate Reinsdorf's loyalty, especially to the guys who helped his dream of winning a World Series come true.
Yeah. The White Sox will win somewhere around 68 games.
EDIT: OK, I'm being a little harsh saying 68. Their Pythag last year was 67-95, though, and I'll be surprised if they clear 75 this year.
We gonna move down to the next ya jockey
EDIT: OK, I'm being a little harsh saying 68. Their Pythag last year was 67-95, though, and I'll be surprised if they clear 75 this year.
That's still no reason to say Ozzie is going to be gone after this year. As PH mentioned, Ozzie getting Reinsdorf a World Series title likely means Guillen has a job until 2012 (I'm pretty sure that's when JR said he's stepping down). The Sox could win five games next year and Ozzie would still be at the helm in 2009.
And I know you made the edit, but I'd bet you any amount of money the Sox finish with better than 68 wins. You'd have to be completely blind to think the Sox are four games worse (or only one game better, if you choose to go by Pythag) than last season. They're probably not better than either of the top two Central teams, but they're still vastly improved over last season's squad (77 wins according to PECOTA -- that's a ten-win improvement over last year's Pythag).
I wanna see if you wanna see what it means to be the man with the master plan. Are you the man now?
It works better if you don't win 120 games one year and 80 the next, though.
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