Most Yankee fans like the LA Lakers in basketball, they root for the Dallas Cowboys in football, the Detroit Red Wings in hockey, and will tell you that Rocky Marciano was the greatest boxer of all time.

I've never heard a Yankee fan opine that Rocky Marciano, a very small heavyweight with a remarkably short reach whose championship defenses were against a weak field of fighters averaging 33+ years of ago, was the best heavyweight champion of the 20th century, much less the "greatest boxer of all time". I would guess most Yankee fans would be partial to Sugar Ray Robinson (173 wins in 200 fights) as the greatest all-around boxer, although I'd suggest Harry Greb (a remarkable 260 career wins fighting everyone from welterweights through heavyweights).

As far as the glamorous heavyweights are concerned, can anyone locate me a Yankee fan who favors Marciano over a prime Muhammad Ali or Joe Louis? For my Yankee-loving part, I'd take Dempsey to whip 'em all, but of course I've seen more film on Dempsey than most. Frankly, the hysterical overrating of the Massachusetts-born Marciano seems far more in line with the demented ravings of a Red Sox fan than the sophisticated analysis of a true Yankee.

And to hear this bunkum from a booster of the Cleveland Palookas? Why, that's just beyond the pale.

and will tell you that Rocky Marciano was the greatest boxer of all time.

Oh there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout boxing, a white man got to pull Rocky Marciano out their a**. That's their one, that's their one. Rocky Marciano. Rocky Marciano. Let me tell you something once and for all. Rocky Marciano was good, but compared to Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano ain't sh*t.

He beat Joe Louis' ass.

I'm partial to the Knicks, Giants, Rangers and Ali. I despise the Lakers, Cowboys and Red Wings. Couldn't care less about Marciano.

Why Indians fans really despise the Yankees: 26 World Championships. A team wins so often, you get ####### sick of them, unless you're a fan of that team.

What the hell is this crackpot talking about? Yankee fans root for the Lakers and the Cowboys?!?!? He knows we have football and basketball teams in NY, right?

He beat Joe Louis' ass.

When Louis was 37. By this logic, Trevor Berbick was greater than Ali.

Joe Louis was 75 years old when they fought.

It didn't always used to be this way.

In Cleveland, it's like the coming of a warlord when the Yankees arrive in town for a series. The fans speak in hushed, respectful tones, and the newspapers write about nothing but the Yankees all week long.

----Bob Addie, Washington Post, 1960

Now that's more like it.

Now that's more like it.

And *that's* why Indians fans hate the Yankees.

Now that's more like it.

And *that's* why Indians fans hate the Yankees.

Well, duh. But you'll note that my quote was from a scrupulously neutral source. It wasn't from Dan Daniel.

What the hell is this crackpot talking about? Yankee fans root for the Lakers and the Cowboys?!?!? He knows we have football and basketball teams in NY, right?

I didn't RTFA, but he seems to be talking about local Yankees fans (i.e. in the Cle. area),

These are the Cleveland area fans who just can’t accept losing, so they manipulate the system at a young age and root for traditional winners.

not actual New Yorkers. I stand ready to be corrected if anyone bothers to RTFA.

Well, duh. But you'll note that my quote was from a scrupulously neutral source. It wasn't from Dan Daniel.

I wasn't talking about the quote, I was talking about your "that's more like it" statement.

I wasn't talking about the quote, I was talking about your "that's more like it" statement.

Well, duh again. And never mind that I wrote the offending sentence with tongue in cheek to begin with, as I hoped would be clear by the context of this entire silly discussion. As if there's some special virtue or evil in rooting for one team or another, or as if there's some sort of a connection between rooting for the Yankees and thinking that Rocky Marciano was the greatest fighter of all time. How on Earth can you reply to something like that without slipping into parody and exaggeration?

Most Yankee fans I know wouldn't piss on Troy Aikman if he were on fire. Hating the Cowboys is a local past time. We only hate the Eagles out of duty. Cowboy hating is visceral and real.

Why Indians fans really despise the Yankees: 26 World Championships. A team wins so often, you get ####### sick of them, unless you're a fan of that team.

Nobody hates a team because they win. They hate winning teams because of interactions with the segment of the fanbase that only roots for the team because they win.

The Yankees simply have a larger percentage of frontrunning ######## in their fanbase (especially outside of New York) than other teams because they've been winning longer and have better media penetration than any other team.

You're right, of course, DKDC.

Remember the hullabaloo about LeBron wearing a Yankees cap. He grew up in Ohio in the mid-90s, so which are his favorite sports teams? Cowboys & Yankees. Of course. That's some front-runnertude right there.

Nobody hates a team because they win. They hate winning teams because of interactions with the segment of the fanbase that only roots for the team because they win.

I hate the Yankees because they win. Over time I've developed other reasons for hating them, but that one is at the core.
But I might just be weird...other than my primary rooting interests (Jays and Leafs) I generally root for losers and once they start winning I lose interest. I was a Broncos fan until Elway won his first Super Bowl then I stopped caring, then moved over to the Colts until the same happened.

Winners are lame.

I'm a yankees fan...i dont care about boxing or basketball, I like the Lightning bc my uncle works for them....*gasp* i'm a browns fan.

The Yankees simply have a larger percentage of frontrunning ######## in their fanbase (especially outside of New York)

See, here's what I don't get. There are a myriad of ways to decide which team to root for. Usually it's the team that plays in your town, or maybe its the team your dad roots for. But there are lots of people who have no such avenue to fandom - maybe you live far away from a baseball town. So who to cheer for? I'm sure plenty of people saw the Yankees of the late 90s and thought, hey, there's an appealing team with a strong history and a tradition of success. Plus, they have really good players, and the way they spend money tells me they usually will. So why not cheer for them?

What I'm saying is, I don't understand the idea that cheering for a winning team makes you less of a fan. I don't begrudge anybody for disliking the Yankees - hey, every story needs a villain - but I find the chauvinism of the suffering fan to be idiotic.

See, here's what I don't get. There are a myriad of ways to decide which team to root for. Usually it's the team that plays in your town, or maybe its the team your dad roots for. But there are lots of people who have no such avenue to fandom - maybe you live far away from a baseball town. So who to cheer for? I'm sure plenty of people saw the Yankees of the late 90s and thought, hey, there's an appealing team with a strong history and a tradition of success. Plus, they have really good players, and the way they spend money tells me they usually will. So why not cheer for them?

It's one thing to pick a team and stick to them. It's another to grab a hat of the successful team du jour, go to the local park and spend the entire damn day/night talking trash and picking fights with the local fans because said frontrunner has always been a fan, like forever.

In the late 90s at White Sox games, these were the Yankees fans. Now they're Red Sox fans, suddenly.

In the late 90s at White Sox games, these were the Yankees fans. Now they're Red Sox fans, suddenly.

In the early and mid-1990s at White Sox games, these were Cleveland Indians fans.

Will the circle be unbroken?

Most Yankee fans I know wouldn't piss on Troy Aikman if he were on fire.

The appropriate time to piss on Troy Aikman is when he is not on fire, as otherwise you run the risk of putting it out.

The appropriate time to piss on Troy Aikman is when he is not on fire, as otherwise you run the risk of putting it out.

Unless you have the ability to piss some sort of flammable liquid. Then piss away.

Most Yankee fans like the LA Lakers in basketball, they root for the Dallas Cowboys in football, the Detroit Red Wings in hockey

This sounds like Cleveland Cav LeBron James.

edit - sorry, Teal and Black already made that observation.

Rooting for the Cowboys these days is more like rooting for the Red Sox pre-2004.

Jesus, the Red Sox mania is everywhere. Back in Florida a lot of late 90s Yankees fans magically transformed into Red Sox fans by '04. I have no doubt Cubs hats would fly like hot cakes at the local Lids if they suddenly made it to the Series.

It's fashion for these people, not fanship. Certainly not baseball.

Why do Indians fans hate the Yankees? The same reason everyone else hates the Yankees. Jealousy. There are additional reasons too: they were in the same division for a few decades and they always seem to face each other in the playoffs when Cleveland makes it there.

But truth be told, it really it comes down to jealousy. This is an article that can be written with eight letters.

Oh, and I was at the ALDS game in Cleveland a couple years ago when LeBron wore his Yankees cap. I booed. A lot. The guy can root for whomever he wants, but he's got to understand that he's the public face of Cleveland, he's the most beloved person in Cleveland, and Clevelanders intensely love their sports teams. We don't like it when one of our own turns their back on Cleveland.

The Indians have fans now? Huh! The more you know.

The Indians have fans now? Huh! The more you know.

Yeah, I just assumed those 455 straight sellouts were comprised almost entirely of Yankee fans who bought season tickets just to secure seats for the 3-6 Yankee visits per season.

(A) It's getting near a decade since the end of that streak.

(B) It was a joke, dumbass.

(B) It was a joke, dumbass.

Well, it wasn't funny, sunshine.

et me put it to you this way: When you play monopoly with your friends, give the Yankee fan half of the deeds and three quarters of all of the money that comes with the game. Lobotomize everybody else. We will call the other players Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Kansas City, and Cleveland. They have what is left to divide amongst themselves.

Fixed.

Hmm. Yankees fans huh? Steelers fans are far more hated, with good reason. Walk through Tower City Mall in Cleveland right now and you will see more Steelers merchandise than Indians and almost as much as Cavs. I am a transplant here and the Cavs and Indians have become my teams (since I didn't have ones before moving her) but as a Steelers fan I am constantly amused by the "long-suffering Browns fan". Hell, they won the Super Bowl in 2000

as a Steelers fan I am constantly amused by the "long-suffering Browns fan". Hell, they won the Super Bowl in 2000

Uh, what now?

The fact that the Ravens won the Super Bowl just 5 years after Art Modell stabbed the entire city in the back is even more reason to suffer, not less.

I've always wondered what it's like to root for one of those teams like the Yankees or Lakers. The 49ers I guess were kinda like that in the early/mid 90s, but that was really before my time. The Sharks are really good, but a)that's hockey and b)they haven't won #### yet.

I really don't know. It must be weird, to have all those fans on your side.

Hmm. Yankees fans huh? Steelers fans are far more hated, with good reason. Walk through Tower City Mall in Cleveland right now and you will see more Steelers merchandise than Indians and almost as much as Cavs. I am a transplant here and the Cavs and Indians have become my teams (since I didn't have ones before moving her) but as a Steelers fan I am constantly amused by the "long-suffering Browns fan". Hell, they won the Super Bowl in 2000

Yeah this is going to earn the old "Go #### yourself". Sorry man.

Walk through Tower City Mall in Cleveland right now and you will see more Steelers merchandise than Indians and almost as much as Cavs.

Not many people walk through Tower City these days besides the criminals and the destitute, which is why it is pretty much a discount mall. The Steelers garb is just catering to the low end clientele.

>>>but as a Steelers fan I am constantly amused by the "long-suffering Browns fan".<<

Farting in the bathtub amuses you also.

Guys, guys. Lebron isn't just a bandwagoning sports fan. Despite his support of the Yankees and Cowboys, he doesn't root for the Lakers, despite their multitude of championships, but devotes himself instead to the famously suffering CHICAGO BULLS.

#### LeBron James. This Knicks fan hopes he keeps his wannabe Jordan ass on Lake Erie.

#### LeBron James. This Knicks fan hopes he keeps his wannabe Jordan ass on Lake Erie

Fine with us.