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Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Papelbon’s pregnant wife reportedly felt threatened

Ah, yes…the most knowledgeable fans in baseball strike again.

Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon blamed the New York media for creating a firestorm that resulted in his pregnant wife being threatened on Tuesday.

MLB.com reported that during a red carpet parade for the All-Star Game that went down Sixth Avenue in Manhattan, Papelbon and his wife Ashley were bombarded by insults from fans.

“I feel like I needed to be in a bullet-proof car,” Papelbon said, according to the Web site. “My wife is pregnant and she’s getting her life threatened. It’s stupid.”

...“Your family gets involved like that and you’re trying to enjoy an experience with your family, and you have a wife who’s pregnant who doesn’t feel safe riding in a red-carpet event, you know what I mean? How would you feel?” Papelbon said, according to MLB.com.

Papelbon did pitch and received a harsh welcome when he entered in the All-Star Game in the eighth inning.

The crowd of 55,632 chanted “Overrated” with Papelbon on the mound, and sounded almost pleased when he allowed Adrian Gonzalez’s go-ahead sacrifice fly.

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   101. Chris Dial Posted: July 16, 2008 at 02:40 PM (#2861266)
It's not more annoying than Base/Dial.
There was no rivalry. He mostly just insulted me.
   102. aleskel Posted: July 16, 2008 at 02:44 PM (#2861269)
i'm kinda shocked at the knee-jerk mentality of the Yankees fans here. i guess maybe i shouldn't be, but can't we all just agree that this is a bad thing to have happen, Papelbon shouldn't have said jack to the media, and the people who yelled hostile things at his wife are major league dickwads who besmirch the Yankee fanbase.

isn't that what we're all saying? I don't see any Yankee fans saying anything other than "Papelbon's a dope, but whoever was saying vulgar or insulting things when he was with his wife is a jackass"
   103. Jeff K. Posted: July 16, 2008 at 02:48 PM (#2861282)
There was no rivalry. He mostly just insulted me.

I mostly just insult you.
   104. sunnyday2 Posted: July 16, 2008 at 02:50 PM (#2861284)
If he says his wife felt threatened--that her life WAS threatened--then she felt threatened.

Anybody who wants to attempt to justify it is in waaay deep. Visit planet earth sometime, the fresh air will do you good.

I am not a Red Sox fan, OK.
   105. RB in NYC (Now with New Running Goal!) Posted: July 16, 2008 at 02:51 PM (#2861285)
as for Paps being a dim bulb, i know he and his wife regularly play scrabble. so how bad could he really be? unless he's like one of those Word Freaks guys.
Given he's already on kid #3, I suspect "playing scrabble" is code for something else entirely
   106. TVerik, AKA Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:02 PM (#2861305)
I think it would have been cool to do a roll call for the whole team. I would have liked to see if Manny waved, for instance. I bet he would have.

I think he would have climbed into the stands and yelled out his own name, angry that his chant isn't acknowledged.
   107. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:05 PM (#2861311)
as for Paps being a dim bulb, i know he and his wife regularly play scrabble. so how bad could he really be? unless he's like one of those Word Freaks guys.

Or if they, you know, cheat and just make words up.
   108. CiC Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:10 PM (#2861319)
There was no rivalry. He mostly just insulted me.

Threads? Need entertainment and I can't imagine you not at least responding.
   109. SoSH U at work Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:16 PM (#2861330)
Dial went in and deleted all the funniest parts from the thread in question, CiC.


There were no funny parts. It was Base at his most base.
   110. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:18 PM (#2861332)
Kwijibo is a perfectly cromulent word.
   111. JPWF13 Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:24 PM (#2861341)
There were no funny parts. It was Base at his most base.


Baser than the Lidle thread?
   112. Dr Love Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:25 PM (#2861343)
as for Paps being a dim bulb, i know he and his wife regularly play scrabble. so how bad could he really be?


You can play Scrabble using only small words.
   113. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:30 PM (#2861347)
I freely admit that I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But what is the humorous origins of this post?

They threw batteries and quarters at her abdomen once they saw she was pregnant.

Is their a back story? Some Game Chatter "so's your mom" equivalent?

To the layperson of BBTF it reads as a statement of fact/accusation.

Which I personally found rather outlandish.

And yes, if someone claims to FEEL threatened who is anyone to dispute how that person felt? But folks have the freedome to determine whether given the context someone was actually "threatened" by the circumstances. As in their "feeling" was rationally justified.

I would suggest that given the organized nature of the activity, the security present, the lack of history of sports fans in this country attacking player's wives much less in a highly public setting that said "feeling" was more hysterics than based in rational thought.

But then my wife is routinely called foul names for merely being married to me and has been for decades. None of the "name-callers" have taken any action nor do they do dare to issue their comments in my presence. It pains me that she is subjected to such nonsense but such is the cost of having lived in the same place for over fifty years and had different levels of encounters with folks within shouting radius.

If I were Papelborn I would be rather chagrined that my wife felt "threatened" with him sitting at her side. Big, strong-looking kid like that and his wife gets worried about a few dumb*sses shouting from the sidewalk?
   114. CiC Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:33 PM (#2861353)
Here's the thread.


Thanks.
   115. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:40 PM (#2861358)
#82 is classic. One of the funniest things ever written here.

Well, that's a let down.
   116. RB in NYC (Now with New Running Goal!) Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:41 PM (#2861361)
Boy, I don't miss Rob Base at all
   117. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:42 PM (#2861362)
kevin:

Well ok then.

Don't know then why someone who doesn't hang out in Red Sox chatters would be termed a dimbulb.

But if that is the standard then to quote the Lounge I "FAIL".
   118. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:42 PM (#2861363)
Man, I hated that Base guy.
   119. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:43 PM (#2861364)
If I were Papelborn I would be rather chagrined that my wife felt "threatened" with him sitting at her side. Big, strong-looking kid like that and his wife gets worried about a few dumb*sses shouting from the sidewalk?

Papelbon is such a dork...odds are, if he tried to go all kung fu on some Yankee toughs, he'd poke his own eye out with his elbow.
   120. Big Train Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:44 PM (#2861367)
Well, that's a let down.

I was looking for 82 on another page or something.
   121. Dr Love Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:47 PM (#2861374)
C'mon. Base was a prick but the guy had an incredible sense of humor. The concession stand comment was brilliant.


Well, it was better than your "joke" about batteries and quarters. Not that either was actually funny.
   122. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:49 PM (#2861377)
The concession stand comment was brilliant.

Brilliant? I remember when people called Fight Club brilliant. Is this the same use of the word?
   123. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:49 PM (#2861378)
What actually were the funniest moments on BTF? I loved this thread.
   124. CiC Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:50 PM (#2861379)
There was a lot more to be done with that concession opening than Rob Base did with it.

Poor work rate.
   125. robinred Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:51 PM (#2861383)
Well, people in that thread are talking about "#22"--which is deleted. There are only 10 posts showing that I see.

EDIT: Apparently 4=22--where Darren types "I do."
   126. TVerik, AKA Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:52 PM (#2861384)
I don't have a link to the thread, but when Nomar saved a woman from drowning in Boston Harbor, two pages of good stuff and three pages of self-congratulatory nonsense soon followed.

Oh, maybe I do have the link:

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/ap_garciaparra_rescues_two_women_in_boston/
   127. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:53 PM (#2861386)
Well, people in that thread are talking about "#22"--which is deleted. There are only 10 posts showing that I see.
There's nothing of importance missing from the thread - all the un-registered names aren't showing up, is all. #22 refers to our #7.
   128. robinred Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:55 PM (#2861388)
Right--4, then 7.
   129. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:57 PM (#2861391)
What actually were the funniest moments on BTF? I loved this thread.


That was a good one, but I prefer the time someone posted as Gammons and explained that his columns were all postfemininst poetry or something like that.
   130. Will Young Posted: July 16, 2008 at 03:58 PM (#2861393)
as for Paps being a dim bulb, i know he and his wife regularly play scrabble. so how bad could he really be? unless he's like one of those Word Freaks guys.

Given he's already on kid #3, I suspect "playing scrabble" is code for something else entirely


You mean coitus?

(only worth 8 points!)
   131. TVerik, AKA Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:00 PM (#2861396)
79. Kirby Kyle Posted: October 12, 2005 at 11:13 AM (#1678875)

Ozzie Guillen would have sacrificed one, left the other stranded, and been hailed for his use of the productive death.
   132. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:24 PM (#2861420)
Base lost me that one time when he castigated Bob T because Bob T mentioned that his late father used an expression that could be construed as anti-Semitic. Like it was Bob's fault. At no point did Bob condone his father's behavior.
   133. The Bones McCoy of THT Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:28 PM (#2861429)
I don't have a link to the thread, but when Nomar saved a woman from drowning in Boston Harbor, two pages of good stuff and three pages of self-congratulatory nonsense soon followed.


112. Moe Jorgan Posted: October 12, 2005 at 11:32 AM (#1678948)

Billy Beane never should have thrown those women into the water.


I still think this was the best of the bunch.

Best Regards

John
   134. Big Train Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:32 PM (#2861437)
There were a lot of great threads. Lots of great lounges too. There were some fantastic game chatters.

A lot of the funny is located in the lounge now.
   135. Chris Dial Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:35 PM (#2861440)
I don't recall deleting any posts in that thread, and they all seem to be there and the timestamps look right.
   136. bads85 Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:39 PM (#2861445)
"1918". With all the writers and create types living in NYC I'm surprised they can't come up with anything a bit more clever.


Forget clever, "1918" was effective. Even after two World Championships, it still stings.
   137. Chris Dial Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:40 PM (#2861448)
And again, there is no rivalry, just Base resorting to fat jokes.

Also, Bonds ended 2006 with a ZR of 0.860 while the league had a ZR of 0.859.

kevin, that's what it means to be right.
   138. The Good Face Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:42 PM (#2861453)
Funniest thread was the Literature Parody exercise kicked off by Guapo's sublime Derek Jeter in Kafka's Metamorphosis. Jack Keefe posts almost always bring the funny as well.
   139. Big Train Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:44 PM (#2861460)
Whatever happened to the Score Bard? That random gammons generator was great.
   140. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: July 16, 2008 at 04:48 PM (#2861467)
The Score Bard has his own blog at Baseball Toaster.

Guapo is a funny dude. (So is Gonfalon Bubble and I get them mixed up sometimes.) I emailed him and told him that he deserved a Primey for the last post in this thread.
   141. The Bones McCoy of THT Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:13 PM (#2861503)
I don't have a link to the thread, but when Nomar saved a woman from drowning in Boston Harbor


If any Toronto Blue Jays batter were there both women would be left in drowning position.

If Jeff Borris were there he'd ask everyone to save the women.

If Dan Uggla were there three women would have drowned.

If Adam Dunn were there, he'd claim that the women never cried for help.

If Jonathan Papelbon were there he'd insist that he should save the women.

If Moises Alou were there, the water would be a lot warmer.

If J.P. Ricciardi were there he'd claim that the women didn't enjoy swimming.

Best Regards

John
   142. Esoteric Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:15 PM (#2861507)
Rob Base wasn't funny at all. The post kevin points to as evidence of his genius doesn't even raise a smile...it's the equivalent of a kid responding to an argument by spitting on your shoes. I cannot seriously believe that anyone thinks this is evidence of a profound comedic touch.

I missed most of the Rob Base wars, and I think Dial and levski often behave in such a way as to earn the attacks they receive, but seriously: thank god that guy is gone. He seems to have contributed nothing except vandalism to this site.
   143. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:21 PM (#2861516)
Rob Base was one of the worst "comedians" I have ever encountered. I'd rather watch five minutes of Dane Cook than read one Rob Base post.
   144. Inanimate Carbon Rod Barajas Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:26 PM (#2861523)
Come on now, LAWBH. I didn't think he was funny either, but no respectable human being could really prefer any Dane Cook over any other conceivable fate.
   145. robinred Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:28 PM (#2861525)
Guapo's Retrosheet version of getting blown off by three girls at a college party is his crowning achievement EDIT HERE to date.

EDIT: And that is blown off, not blown. Getting blown by three girls at a college party is his crowning achievement, period.
   146. Esoteric Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:30 PM (#2861527)
You just don't have a well-developed sense of humor. You probably like knock knock jokes.
I actually prefer puns.

You should've been in the ASG Chatter thread, where I actually spent a lot of time talking about the humor that appeals to me. Rob Base's idiocy was not mentioned.

The only reason you like Rob Base is because he attacked people you personally dislike. Simple as that.
   147. Will Young Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:34 PM (#2861534)
If Claybon Counsil were there, he would have saved them both easily, refused any medical attention and just enjoyed the moment.

If Joe Buck was there, he would make sure everyone knew that he would rather be anywhere else in the world.

If Justin Morneau was there, he would have saved both women, but no one would have noticed.

If Ozzie Guillen was there, he would have saved both women, then blown up two inflatable women dolls and sent them out into the water to let them drown in order to teach some sort of message.

If Scott Fletcher was there, he would have saved them since everyone knows he's clutch.

If Joe Dimino was there, he would have sprained his ankle running out to the edge of the pier forcing Aaron Gleeman to jump in the water to save them in his place.

If Anthony Giacalone was there, he would have shown how the women falling in the water was incredibly a parallel event to the US getting pulled into a war making a tenuous argument and confusing everyone around.

If Chris Jaffe was there, he would have wanted Billy Martin to tell him the most surprising but effective way of getting them out of the water.
   148. JPWF13 Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:38 PM (#2861538)
Rob Base wasn't funny at all.


Well not entirely true, he'd tell 10 tasteless "jokes" and the odds are that one would really be funny (by accident).

What was really odd, was after being booted from BBTF he went on Metsgeek, and actually sounded half reasonable...
he stopped posting on Metsgeek too after awhile...
   149. RB in NYC (Now with New Running Goal!) Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:47 PM (#2861552)
Guapo's Retrosheet version of getting blown off by three girls at a college party is his crowning achievement EDIT HERE to date.
Oh, that was good. What thread was that?
   150. Guapo Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:48 PM (#2861557)
You just don't have a well-developed sense of humor. You probably like knock knock jokes.

Here's one:

Knock Knock.
Who's There?
kevin.
[Ignore Member]

GGC, thanks for the shoutout- I never check my btf email account (don't tell Furtado!) so I missed your message.
   151. SoSH U at work Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:51 PM (#2861561)
Knock Knock.
Who's There?
kevin.
[Ignore Member]


Keep working Guapo. Maybe someday you'll have the finely tuned sense of humor of a Kevin or MHS.
   152. Backlasher Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:51 PM (#2861562)
Rob Base rocks!
   153. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:53 PM (#2861565)
Come on now, LAWBH. I didn't think he was funny either, but no respectable human being could really prefer any Dane Cook over any other conceivable fate.

I chose an extreme case to make a point. And, besides, I only said five minutes. I can withstand quite a bit for five minutes.
   154. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:58 PM (#2861570)
Rob Base rocks!

He's not internationally known, but he's known to rock the microphone? Is this the point you are trying to make? Because, oh, yo, I don't know...

I missed the whole Rob Base saga. Or, more accurately, I started wasting time here just before his banishment so I sorta remember him but not enough to care all that much. I say this only top explain why I'm bringing out the tired "I Wanna Rock Right Now" jokes that you guys probably tore through years ago.
   155. RB in NYC (Now with New Running Goal!) Posted: July 16, 2008 at 05:59 PM (#2861571)
That what she say she was thinking, Guapo?
Well, Guapo, shows you. That's what you get for messing with a one-time member of the Algonquin Round Table
   156. Teufel's Graveyard Posted: July 16, 2008 at 06:10 PM (#2861582)
Shooty, I believe Backlasher could have been making a reference to "Goldman Rocks!", which IIRC was either the birth of the Backlasher persona or at least the coming out party.

Or I could have gone too meta in trying to find deep meaning in a three word sentence.
   157. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 16, 2008 at 08:15 PM (#2861723)
If he says his wife felt threatened--that her life WAS threatened--then she felt threatened.

Is there any evidence, other than Papelbon's statement, that something happened? How do we know Papelbon is not exagerating? Or that he didn't mishear a comment directed elsewhere? Or that he doesn't just make stuff up like Kevin?

Don't think this is much of a story.
   158. The Grich Who Stole Christmas Posted: July 16, 2008 at 08:30 PM (#2861732)
Pregnant wives feeling threatened aside, Papelbon just strikes me as a douche and a guy who actually lets himself get seriously caught up in the Red Sox/Yankees drama.
   159. Porpoise Delectable Posted: July 16, 2008 at 11:16 PM (#2861822)
As I see it, the crux of the problem here lies not so much with Papelbon (although it certainly does to some extent), or with a bunch of Yankee fans who really don't need a reason to boo or taunt Red Sox players. Rather the fault lies, as it usually does, with a media that is all too eager to print anything that will titilate and otherwise excite or enrage their target autdience, even if what they print isn't necessarily true.

For his part, Papelbon should have omitted the part about him being the All-Star closer if he was the manager and just left it at: "Mariano Rivera will be closing the 2008 All-Star Game in Yankee Stadium. I'm making a statement right now, saying I don't want it, I want him to have it. I said all that earlier, but that's the way I feel about it."

As for the response by Yankee fans, well, Red Sox fans behave no differently towards Yankee players at Fenway Park.

But the NY Daily News decided they could sell more papers if they just portrayed Papelbon as a villain. Conentrating on what was perceived as his most insolent remarks while burying his true intent tells me more about the current state of journalism then it does about Papelbon. This is the same crap they pulled last year when they portrayed David Ortiz as having no respect for Derek Jeter. It doesn't help that many in their audience probably know the story's ######## but would simply prefer to believe the exagerated version.

And some people still wonder why Fox News is so successful.
   160. Rich Posted: July 16, 2008 at 11:26 PM (#2861826)
And some people still wonder why Fox News is so successful.

I thought it was the hot chicks with long legs that distract viewers from the misinformation.
   161. Crispix Attacks Posted: July 17, 2008 at 12:03 AM (#2861844)
#41 in this thread

I wish the Internet Archive had some record of the Carl Everett "HOW'S THE KNEE?" rap lyrics thread. I also liked the discussion of which members of the Padres were vampires, though that comes to my mind because it was mostly me.

The literary style parody one is brilliant. Not even funny, just brilliant. I am not talented enough to write those.
   162. nycfan Posted: July 17, 2008 at 02:48 AM (#2861933)
What actually were the funniest moments on BTF?


Any thread with Gagne 55
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