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Pedroia named AL Rookie of the Year

The diminutive second baseman just kept swinging, and his determined approach culminated in the American League Rookie of the Year Award on Monday. Pedroia became the first Red Sox player to win the trophy since Nomar Garciaparra did so in 1997.

Pedroia was listed first on 24 of the 28 ballots submitted by two writers in each league city and second on the other four to total 132 points. The Rays’ Delmon Young finished second behind Pedroia with 56 points, and the Royals’ Brian Bannister tallied 36 to place third in the vote. Pedroia’s fellow teammates Daisuke Matsuzaka (12 points) and Hideki Okajima (3) came in fourth and sixth place, respectively.

Repoz Posted: November 12, 2007 at 02:33 PM | 77 comment(s)
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1. Harold Reynolds: An Erotic Life (AG#1F) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 03:40 PM (#2612468)

I'm pleasantly surprised to see Bannister had more votes than Dice-K.

2. The Mets make Russlan sad Posted: November 12, 2007 at 03:43 PM (#2612473)

Boston has been churning out some good young talent recently. Pedroia, Buchholz, Ellsbury, Papelbon are guys still in the system while guys like Sanchez and Ramirez were used to acquire talent. You have to be impressed with their player development. They seem to be much better at evaluating amateur talent better than they are at evaluating big league talent.

3. DCW3 * Posted: November 12, 2007 at 03:44 PM (#2612476)

I'm pleasantly surprised to see Bannister had more votes than Dice-K.

Of course, Jeremy Guthrie got no votes, and he was superior to Bannister in every way except won/loss record.

4. Templeusox has reached his genetic threshold Posted: November 12, 2007 at 03:45 PM (#2612478)

How did Young get 2nd? He's the worst player of all the players voted for.

5. Free Joe C and the Pop Culture Portmanteau Posted: November 12, 2007 at 03:45 PM (#2612479)

How did Young get 2nd? He's the worst player of all the players voted for.

He did lead all AL rookies in games played, you know.

6. Joe Bivens, Proud Union Member Posted: November 12, 2007 at 03:48 PM (#2612480)

Pedroia deserved it.

Congratulations, kevin.

7. Craig Calcaterra Posted: November 12, 2007 at 03:52 PM (#2612484)

I'm sitting here for almost a minute thinking "wait, where is Ryan Braun?!" until I remember that the Brewers haven't been in the AL for like a decade.

I really need to reboot today.

8. Shooty Is A One Man Legion Posted: November 12, 2007 at 03:52 PM (#2612487)

Of course, Jeremy Guthrie got no votes, and he was superior to Bannister in every way except won/loss record.

Is he still technically a rookie? I had no idea he was already 28. He'll be a grizzled veteran by next August!

9. chris p Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:00 PM (#2612495)

This was a foregone conclusion 2 years ago, when he destroyed AA pitching from the SS position at the age of 21.

*high five*

10. phredbird Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:00 PM (#2612496)

geez its hard to believe nomar was a rookie in 97.

11. With 17th Pick, From LA, 1k5v3L KcoLLoP Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:02 PM (#2612497)

This was a foregone conclusion 2 years ago, when he destroyed AA pitching from the SS position at the age of 21.

At that same time, he was a more valuable player than David Wright, and the last 2 years have only increased Pedroia's superiority.

12. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:12 PM (#2612505)

ring. count the ring.

13. DCW3 * Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:15 PM (#2612511)

Count the Ringzzzzzzzzz, babyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!

David Eckstein nods in agreement.

14. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:16 PM (#2612514)

At least Boston College fell apart.

15. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:19 PM (#2612518)

At least Boston College fell apart.

With the holidays coming up, the lure of shopping money was too strong.

16. NJ likes the people, the books, hates the format. Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:24 PM (#2612527)

Garnett, Pierce and Allen.

Randolph, Curry, and Marbury.

17. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:25 PM (#2612528)

At least Boston College fell apart.

Garnett, Pierce and Allen

I'm still holding out hope for a Giants victory in week 16 to ruin the Pats perfect season. 7 sacks for the Giants D, three for Strahan. Back page of the New York Post is a picture of Kiwanuka, Uminyora, Strahan, and Tuck, underneath the banner headline "THE BRADY BUNCH."

I can dream, can't I.

18. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:26 PM (#2612531)

I actually think the Nets can take the Celtics, thought they looked like garbage in the second half the other day.

19. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:26 PM (#2612532)

At least Boston College fell apart.

They didn't fall apart, they were never together in the first place. An overrated piece of crap team with a good, but way overrated QB.

20. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:26 PM (#2612533)

With the holidays coming up, the lure of shopping money was too strong.

Dude, I'm trying and trying but I DON'T get this joke. Can you explain it, please.

21. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:29 PM (#2612539)

I was at the Rutgers/UConn came at Rentschler Field the other week, and the atmosphere was worse than anything I've ever seen at Fenway Park or Yankee Stadium: "GO the #### back to Jersey!" "What does the R stand for, Retard?" garbage and cups thrown at Rutgers fans (a sizable contingent, as you would guess), Roving gangs of UConn fans waiting in the parking lot to verbally assault Rutgers fans. All this for a four year old rivalry. It really is too bad that BC left the conference, as Rutgers/UConn/BC games would have been fun/violent affairs. Neighbor state rivalries are what make college football great. Who is BC's rival now? Virginia? Who is BC's rival now? Virginia? Duke?

22. Shooty Is A One Man Legion Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:30 PM (#2612542)

With the holidays coming up, the lure of shopping money was too strong.

Dude, I'm trying and trying but I DON'T get this joke. Can you explain it, please.

I'm guessing this is a joke about fixing games?

23. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:31 PM (#2612545)

ah, i get it!

24. The District Attorney Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:34 PM (#2612548)

Oh, I thought it was a joke about Pedroia playing an elf.

25. ekogan Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:34 PM (#2612549)

Pedroia became the first Red Sox player to win the trophy since Nomar Garciaparra did so in 1997

Not bad for someone who's 5'2'' and 110 lbs and played the last two months with a broken hand

26. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:36 PM (#2612553)

I did one of those funny misreads and read that sentence as "Pedroia became the first Red Sox player to win the tropy since Nomar Garciaparra died in 1997."

27. Tim Lincecum doesn't Wang Chung tonite (GGC) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:39 PM (#2612558)

Garnett, Pierce and Allen.

Taylor Twellman.

28. Fly Has Risen, Like a Phoenix from Arizona Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:48 PM (#2612572)

I still think it's funny that out-of-state fans think that anyone in Boston actually cares about BC football in any way at all.

Congrats to Pedroia.

29. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:48 PM (#2612574)

John Miter Perrell does.

30. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:49 PM (#2612577)

Weekly Journalist is in state.

and i realize you don't care, but i find BC more distasteful than anything Larry Lucchiano says or does...

Exhibit A) the big east switcharoo
Exhibit B) Mike Lupica.

31. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:52 PM (#2612579)

er, john Meterparel

32. Tim Lincecum doesn't Wang Chung tonite (GGC) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:53 PM (#2612582)

Exhibit C) Tom Coughlin
Exhibit D) Bill Romanowski

I'm a UConn and Jints fan anyways. Not all of us longtime Red Sox fans live within Route 128. I have mixed feelings about the Celts offseason spree anyways.

33. HOPE: Madison Obamagarner (Flynn) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 04:55 PM (#2612585)

I still think it's funny that out-of-state fans think that anyone in Boston actually cares about BC football in any way at all.

I don't think out of state fans necessarily understand how low college football is on the pecking order in Boston. College hockey is a way bigger deal. Plus in an area so besodden with colleges, most people went to a non BC college and so have loyalty to them.

I root for a different college in pretty much every sport, including BU hockey, so BC losing was a source of great pleasure to me.

34. Sean Forman Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:01 PM (#2612595)

I'm still holding out hope for a Giants victory in week 16 to ruin the Pats perfect season. 7 sacks for the Giants D, three for Strahan. Back page of the New York Post is a picture of Kiwanuka, Uminyora, Strahan, and Tuck, underneath the banner headline "THE BRADY BUNCH."

THE BRADY CRUNCH!

35. Templeusox has reached his genetic threshold Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:06 PM (#2612604)

#### BC. #### em all. Pieces of ####.

36. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:12 PM (#2612610)

THE BRADY CRUNCH!

Say, did you got to Hollywood Upstairs Newspaper College too?

37. Free Joe C and the Pop Culture Portmanteau Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:24 PM (#2612629)

At least Boston College fell apart.

With the holidays coming up, the lure of shopping money was too strong.

!!!! I'm still giggling.

Randolph, Curry, and Marbury.

Yeah, the drive for 40 wins is really going to electrify MSG on a nightly basis.

I still think it's funny that out-of-state fans think that anyone in Boston actually cares about BC football in any way at all.

This is true. In fact, I think the only Bostonians who even root for BC at all went there. The rest of us can't stand them.

I'm still holding out hope for a Giants victory in week 16 to ruin the Pats perfect season.

I wouldn't bet against a Giants team in the thick of divison in playoff races in a must win against a NWE team who has homefield, etc. already locked up. The Giants are a good matchup too; they pressure the QB well, which as the Colts showed is the only known way to slow down the Pats' offense right now.

38. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:28 PM (#2612636)

The Giants are a good matchup too; they pressure the QB well,

they pressure the qb well against bad teams. Not yesterday.

39. The Artist Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:33 PM (#2612640)

This is true. In fact, I think the only Bostonians who even root for BC at all went there. The rest of us can't stand them.

To be fair, I think BU and Northeastern rank higher on the "don't give a #### about them" scale and visceral dislike (1 year living on the B line - BU is my personal devil).

40. Free Joe C and the Pop Culture Portmanteau Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:35 PM (#2612644)

(1 year living on the B line - BU is my personal devil)

My condolences.

41. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:40 PM (#2612659)

The only thing good about living on the B line is the great Ethnic food in Allston.

42. Joe Bivens, Proud Union Member Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:43 PM (#2612665)

WJ, is "Play it Again, Sam's" still there? On Comm Ave, a block or 2 west of Harvard Ave?

43. Mark Donelson Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:44 PM (#2612670)

To be fair, I think BU and Northeastern rank higher on the "don't give a #### about them" scale and visceral dislike (1 year living on the B line - BU is my personal devil).

That only leaves one Beanpot team, anyway, for you to be rooting for. "Visceral dislike" is certainly not unknown to that school, though not usually applied to its sports teams particularly.

44. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:45 PM (#2612673)

a friend of mine went to northeastern, I mean, are they even major? of course they are in the "don't give a #### about them."

I bet New York City doesn't give a #### about Pace university's basketball program.

45. Biff. You know, for kids! Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:52 PM (#2612681)

I just don't care about college football at all. I only found out yesterday that my Division III school is apparently pretty good this year and is in the playoffs.

Go Pedroia!

46. Joe Bivens, Proud Union Member Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:53 PM (#2612684)

NU has a lot of students. Back in 1989, they claimed to have 50,000.

47. SteveF Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:59 PM (#2612690)

Northeastern has those satellite schools where they have night classes at area high schools and such. At least they did during the time period you're talking about. They probably were counting students enrolled in those classes.

48. chris p Posted: November 12, 2007 at 05:59 PM (#2612692)

go jumbos?

49. The Artist Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:01 PM (#2612693)

The only thing good about living on the B line is the great Ethnic food in Allston.

Meh, I thought the food was decent, not great. Of course, my biggest regret about moving from Boston is that I can't go to Boloco anymore. ;)

My condolences.

Thanks. In my defense, I did move up the hill and to the C line(Coolidge Corner area - absolutely loved it) in time. If I had stayed in Boston, I might have ended up in Riverside!

50. Rough Carrigan Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:22 PM (#2612709)

I was at a Sox game at Fenway something like 5 years ago which was some kind of special BC night or something. There must have been a thousand of them in one section of the bleachers. What morons. They kept starting up a chant of "BC!" followed by some fairly light clapping. The entire rest of the stands seemed to be shouting out "Sucks!" to fill in that gap. It took about 10 times through before they realized the rest of the crowd wasn't exactly with them.

I'm among a sizable contingent of Boston area fans which actually rooted for BC to lose. College sports are a joke. Unpaid minor leaguers. If some other parts of the country want to get into that, fine. We've got real teams here and much better colleges than BC, too.

51. bibigon Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:33 PM (#2612716)

The major three Boston sports teams haven't lost a game in nearly a month now.

52. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:42 PM (#2612726)

Man, on one stretch of Brighton Ave. you've got Punjab Palace for awesome Indian, New Trend Eatery, an authentic Hong Kong seafood joint, Carlo's Cucina, the best red sauce Italian outside the North End, and that's just the beginning.

53. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:47 PM (#2612733)

If you think BC is low on the pecking order in Boston, you should hear the coverage Rutgers gets on WFAN behind the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Yankees, Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Knicks, Nets, and, for some reason, Notre Dame. Now THAT is low on the pecking order.

I also had forgotten that people in the New York area care a little bit about hockey, at least compared to Boston. Driving late through the night recently I was surprised how many callers wanted to talk about the Rangers. When I was 13 in 1994, Hockey fandom was crazy in New York, and I always felt fringy for being obsessed with the Yankees. Rangers/Devils arguments in the cafeteria were heated, to say the least. Like Yankees/Red Sox, except all the trash talking participants lived next door to each other.

Man, hockey really shot itself in the foot with the first big lockout. And then in a million other ways.

54. Joe Bivens, Proud Union Member Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:51 PM (#2612735)

BC grads run the city. Lots of influence.

55. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:55 PM (#2612738)

BC grads may run the city but BU PhD students are after your daughters!

(Sure I'll change your grade on that Milton paper...just step into my office).

56. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:56 PM (#2612740)

ugh, i'm grading 26 papers on John Donne's "The Flea." I have to think of more creative essay assignments.

57. Dewitty_Pun Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:57 PM (#2612742)

behind the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Yankees, Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Knicks, Nets,

Who is this second Yankees team?

58. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:58 PM (#2612744)

It was a typ-o, but the reality of the region is that Mike and the Mad Dog ARE likely to have two segments on the Yankees before every getting to hockey or basketball.

59. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 12, 2007 at 06:59 PM (#2612745)

Also, you know what's hysterical and sums up the two cities in relation to each other? WFAN comes in more clearly than WEEI everywhere on the Mass Pike west of Natick.

60. Fat Al Posted: November 12, 2007 at 07:02 PM (#2612749)

behind the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Yankees, Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Knicks, Nets,

Who is this second Yankees team?

Staten Island

61. Tim Lincecum doesn't Wang Chung tonite (GGC) Posted: November 12, 2007 at 09:01 PM (#2612810)

Also, you know what's hysterical and sums up the two cities in relation to each other? WFAN comes in more clearly than WEEI everywhere on the Mass Pike west of Natick.

WEEI syndicates. They have another AM station somewhere (maybe in Worcester) and they have a couple FM stations; one in Rhode Island on 103.7 and one in western Mass (Easthampton, which is near Springfield) on 105.5. The latter relationship started about a year ago. I find it very parochial. They don't talk about much that happens outside The Hub. I haven't listened to sports radio much lately. I'm trying to prune my sports tree. I'm pretty much down to just the Red Sox, Giants football, and UConn hoops.

62. John DiFool2 Posted: November 12, 2007 at 09:23 PM (#2612832)

I'm pleasantly surprised to see Bannister had more votes than Dice-K.

Bringing the discussion back on topic (and borrowing from the NL thread); Dice-K figures to have the better career, dontcha think? Yeah nobody should vote based on that (tho I recall a voter from like 20 years ago or so putting that forth as a reason for his vote), but Matsuzaka has almost twice the strikeout rate, and as we all know that is the best predictor of future career length out there.

63. Zach Posted: November 12, 2007 at 11:25 PM (#2612952)

...Matsuzaka has almost twice the strikeout rate, and as we all know that is the best predictor of future career length out there.

Very comparable FIP ERAs, though. Matsuzaka 4.35, Bannister 4.52. Are strikeout rates the better predictor, or FIP? They're normally so correlated with one another that I genuinely don't know the answer.

64. alex perros gives up the ghost Posted: November 12, 2007 at 11:33 PM (#2612958)

Pedroia has both a clutch ring and an intangible ring that you can't see...

Young people today with their piercings.

65. With 17th Pick, From LA, 1k5v3L KcoLLoP Posted: November 12, 2007 at 11:39 PM (#2612966)

AZ Republic happy for former Sun Devil Pedroia

66. villageidiom Posted: November 12, 2007 at 11:51 PM (#2612989)

Pedroia has both a clutch ring and an intangible ring that you can't see...

His family has seven rings, in their halls of stone.

67. Miko Supports Shane's Spam Habit Posted: November 13, 2007 at 12:02 AM (#2613009)

With the holidays coming up, the lure of shopping money was too strong.

This was one of the funnier things I've seen on BTF in a while. And I have a degree from BC.

68. Darren Posted: November 13, 2007 at 12:08 AM (#2613015)

Dice-K scored awfully low for a 15 game winner, 200 K guy on a playoff team. Is this backlash against his already playing in Japan? Doesn't his line usually trump that of a .300 hitter with so few RBI?

69. It's All Voxter Now, Baby Blue Posted: November 13, 2007 at 12:19 AM (#2613027)

> Is this backlash against his already playing in Japan?

Have you ever heard the DJ Shadow song "Why Hip-Hop Sucks in '96"?

70. Please don't tell Phil Coorey to do the math Posted: November 14, 2007 at 04:52 AM (#2614244)

Have you ever heard the DJ Shadow song "Why Hip-Hop Sucks in '96"?

I swear to god I am playing Entroducing, right now as I read this thread....

eerie

71. rfloh Posted: November 14, 2007 at 05:12 AM (#2614248)

#69

Very comparable FIP ERAs, though. Matsuzaka 4.35, Bannister 4.52. Are strikeout rates the better predictor, or FIP? They're normally so correlated with one another that I genuinely don't know the answer.

FIP doesn't adjust for HR / F rate. Bannister's was 7.9%, Matsuzaka, 11.7%.

Bannister's xFIP was 5.14. Matsuzaka's xFIP was 4.42.

How much you should adjust for that depends on how much influence you think a pitcher has over his HR / F rate.

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