User Comments, Suggestions, or Complaints | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertising
Page rendered in 1.3720 seconds
82 querie(s) executed
|
| |||||||||
Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Wednesday, February 13, 2008Pettitte told Congress Clemens admitted to using human growth hormone
Thanks to Howie Menckel for pointing this out… Repoz
Posted: February 13, 2008 at 09:09 AM | 983 comment(s)
Related News: General, Special Topics, Steroids, NY Yankees |
My BookmarksYou must be logged in to view your Bookmarks. Hot TopicsNewsblog: Jason Kendall names Brian Giles, Bobby Crosby in connection to Adderall (24 - 12:30pm, Mar 12) Last: what the hell, just use your initials or something Newsblog: ESPN Chicago: Ozzie Guillen defends Latin players (22 - 12:21pm, Mar 12) Last: what the hell, just use your initials or something Newsblog: THT: Jedlovec: Brian Giles, Hall of Fame Class of 2016? (30 - 12:20pm, Mar 12) Last: Hang down your head, Tom Foley Newsblog: WEEI: Bradford: Mets viewed Lackey a bigger health risk than Bay (21 - 12:20pm, Mar 12) Last: Watch out for the door, Omar...(Met Fan Charlie) Newsblog: No Maas: Bill Conlin responds to reader with virtual crotch grab (74 - 12:14pm, Mar 12) Last: TDF, situational idiot Transaction Oracle: 2010 ZiPS Projections for Diamond Mind 9, Build 1
(62 - 12:03pm, Mar 12) Last: Dewey, Local Boy and Soupuss |
||||||||
|
About Baseball Think Factory | Write for Us | Copyright © 1996-2008 Baseball Think Factory
User Comments, Suggestions, or Complaints | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertising
|
| Page rendered in 1.3720 seconds | |||||||
Reader Comments and Retorts
Go to end of page
Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.
Why?
Still, it's interesting that Clemens' team didn't react that strongly to the story about McNamee injecting Roger's wife when it came out. Maybe they were planning the Debbie Defense all along.
They said that Pettitte would not be a good live witness as he tended to flip-flop his story around and get confused easily.
On the other hand, it sounds like he has a wonderful career as a Congressman ahead of him.
/Captain Obvious
Why?
From a 'good government' perspective this thing is, of course, a joke and a waste of time.
However, it's pretty clear that the reason the hearings today are happening is because Roger Clemens made a huge issue out of his denial of PED usage, including multiple press conferences, reports, and investigators. Being the primary, if not quite sole, reason today's hearings occurred one can't really be sympathetic to the resulting situation, seems to me.
A lot of people were named in the Mitchell report. Some of them likely are innocent, and some of them claimed so. No one other than Clemens decided to take as public and aggressive an approach, though, and whatever the flaws in the Mitchell report (which are numerous) and the congressional interest (which are also numerous) one has to recognize that set of actions by Clemens is why we are watching this thing today.
So, McCarthyism is correct from the perspective of Congress, perhaps, but Clemens injected himself into the issue in a way that no one in the McCarthy hearings did after being named (rightly or wrongly). It's important to remember that, I think.
If he had, I guess none of this would be happening.
People make a huge deal out of a lot of things, including press conferences Where is the congressional investigation of the BCS? What about the congressional investigation of Britney Spears mental health. Where is the congressional investigation of Kelvin Sampson?
Some witness!
You are missing the point.
I wouldn't defend the idea that this is a more relevant topic for congressional energy than, say, education, healthcare, or infrastructure. It's not; that's the good government issue I raised before.
It also tells us little about the substance of what they are discussing today to say so. Clemens has spent a spectacular amount of money, time, and energy to attack the Mitchell report. That may be because he's innocent and it may be because he's in denial, but it's pretty much unquestionably why we are hearing from him today, seems to me. So if you blame Congress right now I think it misunderstands what's going on, though certainly it's true in part.
I like how your American Congress thinks that a trial, with procedural protections for the accused, is somehow worse than this process. Witness who is no good because he contradicts himself? Well, let's just get his evidence by affidavit and leak it - that way he doesn't look bad.
Clemens may very well be toast, and end up more of a pariah than barry bonds.
well, one way it's different is that there is no 'accused'
well, I don't think congress should have ever been involved, truthfully.
Just like I don't think Congress should be involved in the Patriots cheating scandal.
Andy Pettitte, 20th hijacker.
Let's save the invective for later. Nobody deserves to be associated with Mets fans until all the facts are in.
Not exactly, leaks from Andy's testimony indicate that Clemens told Andy 10 years ago that Mrs. Clemens was purchasing box cutters to give to Arab flight instruction students.
He may not be an accused in the traditional sense, but certainly his reputation is at stake, at least amongst the rational majority who wait for the evidence to make their decisions.
Nice...
Gee, I wonder why? It wouldn't be because Clemens is the biggest name in the report, with the most to lose? Would it? I mean, of course, there's no difference between Roger Clemens and the rest of the name.
intr.v. back·ped·aled or back·ped·alled, back·ped·al·ing or back·ped·al·ling, back·ped·als
1. To move the pedals of a bicycle or similar vehicle backward, especially to apply a brake.
2. To move backward by taking short quick steps, as in boxing or football.
3. To retreat or withdraw from a position or attitude: The senator later backpedaled on the issue.
Is that right? If it is, that's far more horrifying than baseball players using steroids, hGH, greenies, or anything else.
He looks like a chipmunk.
And it's quite obvious his mind is already made up.
Boots Day: YEP!
hey, you think its easy avoiding the important issues that effect the future of this nation and its people? They need something to waste their time on!
Link
Does anyone at all care about HGH? HGH is a total non issue.
Think of the children!!!!!!!
Sorry pal, baseball players aren't going to schools and offering steroids as miracle drugs. And there's many more important issues that affect the children than freaking steroids. Holy hell.
And of-course, like all juicers, he doesnt believe roids help. This is the second time he said this.
Just wait till Britney Spears' next sneeze.
you can't really dust for vomit
Like all juicers? Like Jose Canseco? You're right. He doesn't believe that roids help. Even though he says he still uses them. Caminiti too, despite saying he used them to win an MVP.
And you know, maybe, just maybe, Clemens doesn't believe roids help, and didn't use them.
Or McNamee did.
Wow, McNamee admits he's a liar. Good strategy.
I sure am.
Oh god, they're thinking of the children now. The children!
Yea, I'm glad he withheld critical evidence from authorities until Roger pissed him off. Then he decided to do the right thing! Great character.
And think of the children. Come on! The children!
That's what clemens should have done. Waxman mentioned things clemens lied about, and of-course, clemens never acknowledged it. Mcnamee, however, did.
And that's pretty much where the story ends for me. In this particular context, the PED aspects are just details. The real shame in that room should go to the people asking the questions.
Its streaming.
I'm in college. Just got back from class, and next class isn't until 4:20 :)
Pettitte "misheard."
"He thought I said I was taking HGH, when in fact, I said I was reading HG Wells!"
Which is, of course, a fancy way of saying he's dumb as a box of rocks.
You should be doing homework.
This I can agree with. There are many, many people here who would have difficulty speaking in front of congress.
I would if there was any.
Listening on MLB.com while I work. Admittedly, not especially hard at the moment.
Aren't they both from Texas? My prejudices are confirmed!
Clemens: Well, you see, I don't want to say this because Andy is my friend, but really he's dumb as ####.
<sarcasm>
I would if there was any.
Send me your email, I've got some assignments I need to test out. :)
She should have her children taken away.
This I can agree with. There are many, many people here who would have difficulty speaking in front of congress.
He should have brought an interpreter.
I don't believe so. That would've been a slam dunk.
Who knows. I bet a perjury charge will come from this though.
He's not black like Bonds and Clemens. Duh.
It's a good point. Perjury strikes me as one of those charges that only gets formally made if you piss someone off. Prosecutors don't seem to mind being lied to nearly so much as they mind being made to look foolish.
You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.
<< Back to main