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Friday, August 03, 2007

PIT Post-Gazette: Jocketty could be candidate for CEO

The Pirates do not have a complete list of candidates for their soon-to-be vacant CEO position, but it’s possible Walt Jocketty is or will be on it.

“I can’t comment on that,” Jocketty, the senior vice-president/general manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, said yesterday. “It’s the first I’ve heard of it.”

Jocketty’s name has surfaced with greater frequency than other names when industry sources are asked about potential Pirate CEO candidates.
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A report from Detroit indicated the Pirates and Tigers had completed a Wilson trade early this week in which the Tigers would have picked up all of Wilson’s remaining contract money—in excess of $14 million. “We had a deal,” a source said.

The Pirates would have received Dallas Trahern or Jair Jurrjens—both 21-year-old right-handed pitchers—and a mid-level position player prospect. That deal apparently collapsed when the Pirates asked for a major-league player, perhaps outfielder Craig Monroe.

NTNgod Posted: August 03, 2007 at 01:24 AM | 20 comment(s)
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   1. Vaux, A.B.D.  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 12:47 AM (#2468862)
Um, Dave Dombrowski is a good GM, so that "deal" is a load of crap.
   2. Kyle S  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 05:52 AM (#2468902)
Hahahahahaha. Ladies and gentlemen.... Daviiiiiiiiiid Liiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttlllefield!
   3. Russ  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 06:54 AM (#2468912)
Rumours are that Clevlen was the position prospect. And if Littlefield didn't take that deal, it would NOT be evidence AGAINST the idea that the Pirates are trying to lose.
   4. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 07:00 AM (#2468916)
It broke up over Craig Monroe? Good grief.
   5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 07:03 AM (#2468921)
Also, Jocketty is a significant improvement on the other guy I'd heard being linked to the job (Joe Garagiola).
   6. s.zielinski  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 07:22 AM (#2468933)
Why would Jocketty want to leave St. Louis and come to Pittsburgh? The Nuttings would have to pay through the nose and contractually give Jocketty a lot mad money with which to build an organization.

Not that I'd complain about the hire!
   7. Mike Emeigh  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 07:37 AM (#2468940)
It's been more-or-less common knowledge that Jocketty is on the way out in St. Louis, and that Jeff Luhnow will take over after this season.

-- MWE
   8. PASTE is not impressed by Albert Pujols (Zeth)  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 08:00 AM (#2468951)
I can't imagine Jocketty going to a messed-up cesspool like the Pittsburgh front office. If he does, I'll happily retract everything I said about the Pirates losing purposefully, but I just don't think it's happening. I think the rumors sending him and La Russa to Cincinnati are much more likely to prove correct.
   9. Eric Chalek (Dr. Chaleeko)  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 08:09 AM (#2468958)
Would a Jocketty-led Pirates team do in any better in the area of producing homegrown talent? While Pujols is a major exception, the Cards farm system had a very long fallow period under Jocketty.
   10. s.zielinski  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 08:27 AM (#2468972)
Heh: Re: #7:

Obviously this knowledge wasn't so common that I knew about it!
   11. Dan The Mediocre  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 08:41 AM (#2468980)
Um, Dave Dombrowski is a good GM, so that "deal" is a load of crap.


Didn't he trade for Neifi Perez last year?
   12. The Man in Blak  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 08:44 AM (#2468983)
I don't know if I'd call it common knowledge, but there has been a lot of copy written in the St. Louis rags about a rift within the Cardinals organization between the traditionalists (Jocketty, LaRussa) and the new blood (Luhnow). And, considering how terse both Walt and TLR have been with the media this year, there definitely seems to be some kind of tension behind the scenes.
   13. WTM  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 09:19 AM (#2469012)
Would a Jocketty-led Pirates team do in any better in the area of producing homegrown talent?

I assume the idea is he'd be the CEO, not the GM. His methods have generally worked very well under the circumstances he's had in St. Louis. He should be sensible enough to know that those methods wouldn't work in Pgh. I'd rather gamble on a guy with a good track record adapting properly rather than gamble on somebody like Garagiola suddenly acquiring 50 more IQ points.
   14. WTM  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 09:36 AM (#2469021)
I meant to add that at least Jocketty had the sense to get rid of Ed Creech after two years.
   15. WTM  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 09:44 AM (#2469030)
Oops, it was one year.

Does the edit function ever work?
   16. greenback  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 11:07 AM (#2469099)
I'll echo what The Man in Blak said about Jocketty's future. He does have one more year left on his contract with the Cardinals.

Why would Jocketty want to leave St. Louis and come to Pittsburgh?


For a pay raise maybe? Jocketty's "only" getting about $1 million per year.

Didn't Garagiola do a nice job building the Arizona farm system up?
   17. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 11:15 AM (#2469117)

For a pay raise maybe? Jocketty's "only" getting about $1 million per year.


That doesn't explain how he'd get to Pittsburgh. They don't seem to want to spend money on talent. Maybe once Jocketty is old and washed up they'll lure him, but not while he's still fresh off a WS title.
   18. greenback  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 11:20 AM (#2469124)
Jocketty's post-2004 GMing makes me think he'd be the Matt Morris of baseball executives.
   19. haven  Posted: August 03, 2007 at 08:26 PM (#2470120)
Didn't Garagiola do a nice job building the Arizona farm system up?

I'm not sure I understand the hatred toward Garagiola. Then again I am a Pirates fan so just about everyone looks good to me.
   20. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)  Posted: August 04, 2007 at 08:12 AM (#2470615)
"I'm not sure I understand the hatred toward Garagiola."

Joe Garagiola is the Howard Baldwin of MLB, if Baldwin weren't nearly as picky about what he spent his money on.
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