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Tuesday, April 08, 2008

PIT Post-Gazette: Pirates overcome seven-run deficit but lose home opener

The Pirates overcame a seven-run deficit but lost to the Chicago Cubs, 10-8, on a botched bit of baserunning in the ninth inning and reliever Evan Meek’s wild showing in the 12th—five walks and two wild pitches framed Aramis Ramirez’s decisive sacrifice fly—this afternoon at PNC Park.
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Brian Bixler ran for Doumit, and he took third on Xavier Nady’s deliberate grounder to the right side. Doug Mientkiewicz was intentionally walked, and Bautista tried a squeeze bunt up the first-base line toward Derrek Lee.

It was a play the Pirates rehearsed often in spring training and executed once successfully last week in Atlanta, but it failed this time. Bixler briefly broke from third, hesitated, then went back. Bautista was tagged by Lee for an easy second out.
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“It’s a play that, if he breaks, we get a run out of it,” Bautista said. “I don’t know what happened on the other end. I couldn’t tell you.”

“It just kind of caught me off guard,” Bixler said. “I didn’t really expect it. I just kind of stopped and let the play go as it did.”
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“If he takes off right away, it’s over,” [Manager John] Russell said. “Bixler just froze.”

From the other side, Lee acknowledged the game would have ended if Bixler had taken off.

Of course, that was merely one lowlight from a game that appeared to be between two Midwest League teams. U-G-L-Y

NTNgod Posted: April 08, 2008 at 02:47 AM | 15 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. Mattbert Posted: April 08, 2008 at 07:37 AM (#2734607)
Did the coaching staff actually put on a squeeze play or not? If not, throwing Bixler under the bus for not reading and reacting to an improvised bunt is completely unfair.
   2. Mattbert Posted: April 08, 2008 at 07:44 AM (#2734608)
Answered my own question by RTFA:

Third base coach Tony Beasley, who put on a signal when that play went well in Atlanta, had no signal on this time. But it is supposed to be understood by the runner that the batter can execute it at his discretion at any time.

Pretty harsh to blame the kid for this one.
   3. Tike Redman's Shattered Dreams (shayborg) Posted: April 08, 2008 at 08:33 AM (#2734609)
Pretty harsh to blame the kid for this one.

When he sees the batter bunting, he has to go. At that point there's really no reason not to.
   4. Mattbert Posted: April 08, 2008 at 09:01 AM (#2734613)
I disagree. Squeeze plays should be put on by the coaching staff so that the batter and the runner are on the same page. If the runner doesn't know it's coming, (a) he doesn't get the advantage of the more aggressive secondary lead that you take on a squeeze play and (b) he's liable to be caught by surprise and make a bad decision.

What if Bautista had just been faking the bunt to draw the corners in and give him a better chance of punching one through the infield on a subsequent pitch? If Bixler takes off there, he's meat. At the very least, he has to wait to see if Bautista gets the bunt down before breaking for home, costing him more time (and remember he's already got one strike against him because he hasn't taken that extra step or two on his secondary lead).

There's too much finesse in a squeeze to make it purely a reaction play. That's just poor coaching, in my opinion.
   5. Russ Posted: April 08, 2008 at 09:48 AM (#2734615)
When he sees the batter bunting, he has to go. At that point there's really no reason not to.


And Bixler may have had no idea about this. He was just called up to replace Jack Wilson.
   6. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 08, 2008 at 10:07 AM (#2734618)
With any luck, they'll take the right lesson from this, and stop laying down so many ####### bunts.

Keerist, it's like having Lloyd back again.
   7. ECBucs Posted: April 08, 2008 at 01:41 PM (#2734705)
Neither Bixler or Bautista cost the Pirates the game. They had an opportunity to win it.

I didn't mind the bunt, I don't think the odds are better that Bautista will hit a sacrifice fly vs. being successful with a bunt.

He made a decent bunt yesterday that could have worked.
   8. flournoy Posted: April 08, 2008 at 02:44 PM (#2734752)
“If he takes off right away, it’s over,” [Manager John] Russell said. “Bixler just froze.”


This is a terrible quote, especially for a rookie manager. Russell effectively said, "It's Bixler's fault that we lost." No manager worth his salt ever says that in public about one of his players. So far, off to a bad start, Russell. Some things never change in Pittsburgh, I guess...
   9. Babe Adams Posted: April 08, 2008 at 05:07 PM (#2734979)
This is from what was, I think, the final version of the linked story. It concerns the activity of third base coach Beasley:

"Sometimes, such as when the Pirates did it successfully in the season opener in Atlanta -- with Bautista batting and Nady running -- each receives a signal from third base coach Tony Beasley.

Neither had a signal this time.

'Jose went on his own,' Beasley said. 'And it's up to Bix to read the play.'

Beasley also took some blame himself, as he did not react to the bunt, either.

Once Bautista was tagged out, he looked over his shoulder to see Bixler still at third and was visibly displeased."

Anybody think the Pirates baserunning manual says the third base coach is supposed to watch a play unfold, then look back to see where the runner is? Anyone think maybe the base coach should have said something to Bixler to remind the rookie that a squeeze was part of the available options?

Do we see any reason why Beasley was out there?
   10. Tike Redman's Shattered Dreams (shayborg) Posted: April 08, 2008 at 05:11 PM (#2734987)
And Bixler may have had no idea about this. He was just called up to replace Jack Wilson.

I know, but in the article it says that he was actually still in major league camp this spring when they were practicing this stuff.

Once Bautista was tagged out, he looked over his shoulder to see Bixler still at third and was visibly displeased."

Anybody think the Pirates baserunning manual says the third base coach is supposed to watch a play unfold, then look back to see where the runner is? Anyone think maybe the base coach should have said something to Bixler to remind the rookie that a squeeze was part of the available options?

That's Bautista who looked back to see where the runner was after being tagged out.
   11. Gainsay Posted: April 08, 2008 at 05:18 PM (#2735000)
Do we see any reason why Beasley was out there?


I agree with this. What is the point of having base coaches if you are going to let the batter try a squeeze play at his discretion and rely on the runner reacting to it?
   12. Babe Adams Posted: April 08, 2008 at 05:35 PM (#2735042)
I think the "looked over his shoulder" quote referred to Beasley, but no matter.

The other Pittsburgh paper actually has a responsible quote from Beasley:

"It was a good idea, but it caught us off-guard," Pirates third base coach Tony Beasley said. "Bix wasn't ready. To be honest, I wasn't ready for it myself. If anyone is to blame, it has to be me."
   13. zonk Posted: April 09, 2008 at 12:38 AM (#2735871)
Am I reading this right?

The Pirates employ some sort of "discretion of the batter" suicide?

Watching, I first figured Bixler missed a sign, then thought he just didn't get a good jump. Either way, I was thanking Bixler for the win.

Now I guess I should be thanking Bautista.
   14. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: April 09, 2008 at 12:45 AM (#2735881)
A batter-discretion squeeze provides the element of surprise against the fielders...and your own runner.
   15. Mike Emeigh Posted: April 09, 2008 at 12:51 AM (#2735888)
Of course, that was merely one lowlight from a game that appeared to be between two Midwest League teams.

Nah. The Midwest League is a pitchers' league. This was more like a Cal League game.

EDIT: Or a Pioneer League game.

-- MWE
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