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How does this idiocy get past a randum college weekly's editor let alone an allegedly professional one?
tell you what, plaschke, a few teams will take those guys who have talent but can't win off the dodgers' hands. let's see how well the dodgers do with a teamful of david ecksteins.
who are three guys outplaying Blake DeWitt???
Why don't they just trade Kemp and get it over with...
The Dodgers would be infinitely better off if they made him their general manager.
Isn't he? I thought he replaced DePodesta.
The grouping here doesn't tell the whole picture.
Loney pretty much has been the equal of Kotchman, its hard to find a more comparable pair of players about the same age, who did about the same things in the minors, play the same position, bat from the same side of the plate, play in the same city, and have similar abilities.
Then again they are of different races so scratch that, you can't compare them at all.
As for the others I'd rank them, from most highly touted:
Kemp
Aybar
Ethier
Izturis
And I may be mistaken, but I believe Kotchman and Aybar were way more hyped than Loney and Ethier.
The same number of runs were "manufactured" in this example.
What nonsense.
The Angels are obviously the more stable/better run club right now, but the plaschke way would widen the gap, not narrow it.
The key to being a good Dodger in Plaschke's mind is to have played for the team in the 1980s.
Hence, the Dodgers need the black Mike Ramsey back.
Part was the reason that Paul DePodesta was fired from his job as the previous Dodgers general manager was because, during his final aborted managerial search, he did not even inquire about the availability of Scioscia.
Never heard that one before. If true, it's retarded, of course, because why the hell would Scioscia want to leave after going to the trouble of "changing the culture," building a winner, and working for a team that doesn't give one sh*t what idiot Bill Plaschke thinks?
Ryan Church (plays so hard he gets concussions) and Carlos Delgado (wears his socks high) for Ethier, Kemp and Loney.
Plaschke and Simers ran DePo out of town on a well-greased rail of the purest newsprint. What's really interesting is to listen to Flanders flail about his own culpability for the 2008 Dodgers:
Clearly, that would not include Ned, but more importantly, I find it interesting that just as soon as he mentions that he's accountable, he turns and mentions how this is a group effort, etc. So is he responsible, at the end of the day? He doesn't seem to think so, anyway, or at least, he's unsure that responsibility for the team's construction rests with him.
Blake DeWitt
Dodger youngsters disliked by the media:
Russell Martin
James Loney
Matt Kemp
I'm detecting a trend.
Andy LaRoche and Andre Ethier, being Latino, fall into the same demographic problem that the U.S. Census Bureau faces. Torre has compared Ethier to Paul O'Neill, so that probably should count in his favor.
The media don't talk about LaRoche because he rarely plays.
But that's the first I've heard of Ethier being regarded as Latino. From your description, he's about as Latino as me (mother's side goes back to Cabeza de Vaca) - it's in the blood but that's all.
This would have never happened if Paul DePodesta had tried to tamper with Mike Scioscia's contract!
Look at Chicago - Mariotti may roast Ozzie, but no one within the White Sox takes Jay's "advice" seriously.
Heck, they still publish Racing Form. And Grit.
The Dodgers are also 14th in the NL in runs scored, 10th in BA, 11th in OBP, and 15th in SLG
They're 15th in home runs. With Martin, Kent, and Ethier hitting 9.
Blake DeWitt has an 83 OPS+, which means that clearly he's a (s)crappy white guy who needs to play every day.
Andruw Jones appears to be a very shitty signing too. You take a guy who doesn't hit very well, and you put him in Dodger Stadium? What the ####? I guess when Jones comes back, you can try out the shittiest platoon in history with Jones and Juan Pierre. (on further checking, Pierre might need a RHB to bat for him against RHP)
Granted, that might stop Pierre from stealing 70 bases.
So why do the Angels win? They hit more home runs. Vlad, TTO Catcher Mike Napoli, Torii Hunter (amazing how the Angels get a good CFer, and the Dodgers get a shitty one), Kotchman.
I'll never forget Plaschke's great basketball column when Bill was a student at Columbia, "Trotters need to play the Generals’ brand of ball."
Does anyone else get the feeling that DeWitt is going to take his 2008 May and parlay it into a decent 5 year career? He's done absolutely nothing since, yet he's got Torre trotting him out there every day while LaRoche sits.
And as bad as DeWitt has hit the past month, LaRoche hasn't hit well at all since returning, has not hit well yet at the ML level. You want to replace 83 OPS+ with 73?
"Knock Martin down a peg or two" -- and I thought management in my workplace was the worst.
Better yet for the Dodgers, Nomah returned with two doubles at short.
If they can string together a few games like that (and not break a leg), they might be in business.
On the down side, Andruw returned to go 0-for-5 with 4 Ks.
Wow. He hadn't played shortstop since August 21, 2005, with the Cubs. I thought I'd see Rick Ankiel pitch again before I'd see Nomar at short.
Russell Martin
Yeah, damn those Canadians.
So Martin didn't need to be knocked down a peg.
I bet if he walked he would have been criticized for not swinging the bat.
And as bad as DeWitt has hit the past month, LaRoche hasn't hit well at all since returning, has not hit well yet at the ML level. You want to replace 83 OPS+ with 73?
I guess there's the whole thing about LaRoche having 39 PAs this year while DeWitt has 263. I mean, I can totally see evaluating a guy's ability on 40 PAs.
Those 40 PAs aren't all LaRoche has played this year, don't pretend like they are. He is coming off an injury and hasn't really shown he is healthy yet. He had a weird 119 at-bat stint in AAA where walked 37 times in those 119 at-bats. I know plenty will say this is a stupid objection, but for a third baseman whose calling card is his power 37 walks in 119 at-bats is too much when you have just two doubles and 5 homers and a .277 average while playing in a hitters paradise against weak pitching in Las Vegas. He hasn't struck out too much, so it isn't like he is just watching every pitch go by. I'm thinking these odds numbers are probably an indication that his shoulder is still bum, and hence he can't drive the ball.
You say that like May is all DeWitt has done in his career overall. Hes a 22 year old ex-first rounder who has been a solid, if unspectacular, minor leaguer since then. This isn't Bo Hart or something. If he has a good MLB career it will be because he is a good ballplayer.
And it is not as if LaRoche is being blocked by Olmedo Seanz or something. They are playing kids, it might not be the one you prefer but from what we have seen of LaRoche this year it isn't like it is a clearly wrong decision and I'll take Joe Torre's ability to evaluate talent over anyone here.
I would hardly call him a solid minor leaguer at this point. Solid for an organizational player, maybe, but he's not a middle infielder and the only place in the minors he's put up an .800 OPS is the California League, where an .804 isn't exactly beating the doors down. He's certainly not on the majors on merit, he hasn't even shown he can handle AA pitchers yet.
And he takes instructions well.
Unlike Matt Kemp, the most evil force in the Dodgers clubhouse since Darryl Strawberry apparently.
So, which cherry picked stats are we using? You used major league stats to "prove" that DeWitt is better than LaRoche, and when I point out LaRoche hasn't even had 20% of the PAs that DeWitt has, you point out LaRoche's minor league stats (which are decent). I'm not saying his stint in AAA for rehab was great, but it's not terrible either.
How about Andy's AAA numbers from last year where in 304 PA's he had a .988 OPS? I'm sure DeWitt's .793 OPS spread between HiA and AA is better because he's a "gamer".
And how is using all of his numbers from 2008 "cherrypicking" anyway?
And I never used any stats to "prove" anything about DeWitt.
ALL I was saying was that it doesn't look like LaRoche has recovered from his injury too much right now. His bat is punchless at the moment. Torre's the one seeing him close up right now if he doesn't think LaRoche has anything in his bat this year the combination of that and LaRoche's injury and subsequent poor return would leave me to believe that, right now, DeWitt is a better ballplayer
I also see no reason to trust Torre's observation of hitting ability. That was never his forte in any managerial spot. He also witnessed Juan Pierre being a better hitter than Andre Ethier and Tony Womack being a better hitter than a mailbox.
If LaRoche isn't healthy, he should be on the DL. If he is healthy, there's absolutely no good reason DeWitt should be playing over him.
Is LaRoche competing for the CF job now?
The sense I get of the situation is that LaRoche hasn't been buried on the bench, but rather is being given opportunities to show that he is ready for an everyday job, starting about half the time the past two weeks. As he does better, he should get more playing time. Unless DeWitt starts hitting again and soon, I would expect him DeWitt to be sent down as more Dodgers come off of the dl. Unless LaRoche doesn't hit either, of course.
Except the alternative is a good who also isn't doing much vs. MLB pitching and further, hasn't done much against AA pitching.
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