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Monday, October 06, 2008

Primer Dugout 10-6-08

Y Kant Torii Read?

Carl Yastrzemski, A Well-Paid Slav (GGC) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 08:00 AM | 47 comment(s)
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   1. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 10:05 AM (#2971414)
Having watched a lot of baseball this weekend, I have the feeling that something is going to come back to haunt me. Also, the Flomax commercial came as a relief (heh) after repeatedly seeing all those "distinguished" gents flirting with their younger wives once their drugs kicked in.
   2. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 06, 2008 at 10:27 AM (#2971430)
Sometimes I feel like the simple policy by which TV shows sell ads to the highest bidder may be a strategy that works in the short run but hurts in the long run. Whether it's baseball or Orange County Choppers, eventually if people who aren't within the Males 50 Years Old and Over demographic notice that the show they're watching has ads for Just For Men ("The generation that swore it would never grow old...didn't"), Viagra, and the snake-oil herbal equivalent of Viagra every 20 minutes, the subconscious feeling of "Am I supposed to be watching this? It seems to be for other people" starts to appear.
   3. Carl Yastrzemski, A Well-Paid Slav (GGC) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 10:36 AM (#2971438)
The first couple of days, I saw multiple instances of the Captain Morgan ad were a guy gets lured to a dive bar by his two friends but I didn't see it over the weekend.
   4. Boots Day Posted: October 06, 2008 at 10:45 AM (#2971446)
They seem to have switched to the Halloween party Captain Morgan ad that we all enjoyed so much last year. How long do those things last, 10 seconds? It's a good thing they show them 30 times a game, because you need to see them that many times just to figure out what's going on.
   5. Carl Yastrzemski, A Well-Paid Slav (GGC) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:00 AM (#2971463)
Another ad that I've been seeing all the time is the volcano taco ad from Taco Bell.
   6. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:02 AM (#2971464)
The first couple of days, I saw multiple instances of the Captain Morgan ad were a guy gets lured to a dive bar by his two friends but I didn't see it over the weekend.

I saw that at least three times per game I watched. Maybe more. Not to mention the Hallowe'en one and doubtless a few others I can't recall now (probably because I'm not in their target demo). It'll be a good investment for them, though, if it gets folks to watch Frank TV and Leverage.

I'm not really complaining, though. I will take it all just not to hear all those FOX in-game sound effects and their accompanying USA Today graphics.
   7. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:03 AM (#2971466)
Another ad that I've been seeing all the time is the volcano taco ad from Taco Bell.

They missed me by not having the smoke come out his ass.
   8. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:18 AM (#2971481)
They missed me by not having the smoke come out his ass.

That was much better than the Volcano/Ass/Taco Bell joke I was working on.

The Red Sox playoff victory streak was broken at 9. What is the record, pre- and post- divisional play?
   9. RB in NYC (Now with Jet Lag!) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:33 AM (#2971493)
What is the record, pre- and post- divisional play?
I'm not positive, but I think the Yankees have the post-divisional record:

1998 ALCS: 3
1998 WS: 4
1999 ALDS: 3
1999 ALCS: 2

So that's 12. Someone else might have topped that, but I'd be surprised.
   10. tribefan Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:42 AM (#2971498)
Another ad that I've been seeing all the time is the volcano taco ad from Taco Bell.

That red taco looks pretty gross in the ad. Doesn't make me want to try it, but then again I'm not very cool.

and the snake-oil herbal equivalent of Viagra

ExTenze? Goofiest infomercials ever.
   11. Carl Yastrzemski, A Well-Paid Slav (GGC) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:45 AM (#2971506)
They missed me by not having the smoke come out his ass.


It looked more like he was some stoner trying to hold the smoke in.
   12. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:46 AM (#2971507)
I must be doing a good job of not being marketed to, because I have seen over 100,000,000 ads for "this simple capsule" but don't know what it's called. This follows up the 100,000,000,000 ads for whatever it was that made "Bob" so pleased with himself, and I could never remember what that was called either.

Sometimes bad guys make the best good guys.
   13. Dave Spiwak Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:46 AM (#2971508)
Sometimes I feel like the simple policy by which TV shows sell ads to the highest bidder may be a strategy that works in the short run but hurts in the long run. Whether it's baseball or Orange County Choppers, eventually if people who aren't within the Males 50 Years Old and Over demographic notice that the show they're watching has ads for Just For Men ("The generation that swore it would never grow old...didn't"), Viagra, and the snake-oil herbal equivalent of Viagra every 20 minutes, the subconscious feeling of "Am I supposed to be watching this? It seems to be for other people" starts to appear.

You could be watching tennis, where the ads run the gamut from expensive watches to private jet co-ops to estate planning services. Are the only people tuned into the US Open luxury-brand-adorned execs from Forture 500 companies?
   14. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:56 AM (#2971523)
It looked more like he was some stoner trying to hold the smoke in.

Now that you mention it, it did, didn't it. Probably not by chance, huh? I would guess a lot of "fourthmealers" are stoned anyway.
   15. Carl Yastrzemski, A Well-Paid Slav (GGC) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 11:57 AM (#2971528)
As a kid, I recall seeing alot of institutional advertising on football games as well as ads for Sperry Univac mainframes. I felt like a bigshot. But my memory is hazy and those could have been sponsors for Issues and Answers which segued into the football pregame.
   16. Jose Can Jussi Jokinen (Justin T) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 12:02 PM (#2971535)
This post is just a continuation of my campaign for "I've been carrying you so long I've got scoliosis" to become the new "Her father's the district attorney!"
   17. Bob "Jugement" Dernier Posted: October 06, 2008 at 12:03 PM (#2971537)
The pre-divisional postseason winning streak record is 10, IIRC, by the Yankees from the fifth Series game in 1937 through the first game in 1941.
   18. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 06, 2008 at 12:03 PM (#2971538)
What I liked was all those kids' nature shows sponsored by Mutual of Omaha. I guess they figured kids were more likely to be accompanied by their parents for watching nature shows than, say, Eureeka's Castle.
   19. jwb Posted: October 06, 2008 at 12:17 PM (#2971545)
I loved Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom! "Jim will wrestle an alligator and tag it so we can monitor it's migratory and breeding habits while I try to sell you some insurance!"
   20. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 06, 2008 at 12:22 PM (#2971552)
I'm still in shock that FrankTV somehow earned a second season. I was under the impression that no one watched it.
   21. Harold Reynolds: An Erotic Life (AG#1F) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 12:25 PM (#2971555)
You could be watching tennis, where the ads run the gamut from expensive watches to private jet co-ops to estate planning services. Are the only people tuned into the US Open luxury-brand-adorned execs from Forture 500 companies?


I can't remember who made the joke, probably Jon Stewart, but the comedian said AIG, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers were all in financial trouble, or in other words, anyone who runs commercials during golf.
   22. The District Attorney Posted: October 06, 2008 at 12:26 PM (#2971557)
This post is just a continuation of my campaign for "I've been carrying you so long I've got scoliosis" to become the new "Her father's the district attorney!"
His father.
   23. Dave Spiwak Posted: October 06, 2008 at 12:32 PM (#2971564)
I'm still in shock that FrankTV somehow earned a second season. I was under the impression that no one watched it

What's the point in watching? I've seen probably two hours worth of commercials for it. Are there impressions he does on the show that aren't in any of the commercials?
   24. Loren F.'s well-anchored glenoid Posted: October 06, 2008 at 01:08 PM (#2971603)
I loved Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom! "Jim will wrestle an alligator and tag it so we can monitor it's migratory and breeding habits while I try to sell you some insurance!"

Yeah, all while Marin Perkins stayed safely in the helicopter...
   25. Harold Reynolds: An Erotic Life (AG#1F) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 01:24 PM (#2971624)
I'm still in shock that FrankTV somehow earned a second season. I was under the impression that no one watched it

What else is TBS going to show? "Law and Order" and Tyler Perry are stretched pretty thin and can't be asked to provide all their programming!
   26. SoSH U at work Posted: October 06, 2008 at 01:31 PM (#2971631)
What else is TBS going to show? "Law and Order" and Tyler Perry are stretched pretty thin and can't be asked to provide all their programming!


You're merging your Turner stations again Alex. Tyler Perry, Frank and the wacky cut-ups from 10 Items or Less can be found on TBS, very funny. Law and Order, along with critically aclaimed shows featuring too-skinny actresses with funny accents, is relegated to TNT, which as you should know, knows drama.
   27. baseballing powerhouse (phredbird) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 02:11 PM (#2971668)
the goofy male enhancement campaign with bob -- enzyte -- has been shut down afaik. class action lawsuit from some guy who says the stuff doesn't work, i think the feds are after them now too.
   28. RB in NYC (Now with Jet Lag!) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 02:35 PM (#2971691)
The Feds are more than after them, they got them:

On February 22, 2008, Steven Warshak [Enzyte CEO] was found guilty of 93 counts of conspiracy, fraud and money laundering. On August 27, 2008 he was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Arthur Spiegel to 25 years in prison and ordered to pay $93,000 in fines. His company, Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals, along with other defendants, was ordered to forfeit $500 million. His 75-year-old mother, Harriet Warshak, was sentenced to two years in prison.

(Link)
   29. 44magnum Posted: October 06, 2008 at 02:47 PM (#2971703)
GGC, you are a bigshot!

#27, I just saw the "Bob" ad for the 1st time about 2 hours ago. That's the one with Santa at the POLE, the girth subtlety, and the beautiful parade/throwing confetti ending, right?
   30. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: October 06, 2008 at 03:05 PM (#2971722)
ad that I've been seeing all the time is the volcano taco ad from Taco Bell.

I have tried it. Meh.
   31. Harold Reynolds: An Erotic Life (AG#1F) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 03:14 PM (#2971730)
I have tried it. Meh.


But its red!!! That means its hot!!!

I have always wanted to start a fast food review site, although I suspect one exists already. I've always wanted a site to show how fast food looks in ads, compared to pics of how it really looks. I got a Burger King Angus burger the other day that looked like a hockey puck.
   32. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 03:25 PM (#2971742)
Yeah, all while Marin Perkins stayed safely in the helicopter...

I totally saw him wrestle an anaconda once. Of course there were folks around off-camera to make sure he wasn't going to be crushed to death, but he was in the water with the thing. Looked as if he was enjoying it, too.
   33. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: October 06, 2008 at 03:44 PM (#2971761)
That red taco looks pretty gross in the ad. Doesn't make me want to try it, but then again I'm not very cool.

I decided to try to see if it really was hot. The cheese sauce was like lava and it wasn't because it was spicy. I'm fairly certain I won't be trying it again.
   34. The Buddy Biancalana Hit Counter Posted: October 06, 2008 at 03:56 PM (#2971769)
The Feds are more than after them, they got them:

On February 22, 2008, Steven Warshak [Enzyte CEO] was found guilty of 93 counts of conspiracy, fraud and money laundering. On August 27, 2008 he was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Arthur Spiegel to 25 years in prison and ordered to pay $93,000 in fines. His company, Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals, along with other defendants, was ordered to forfeit $500 million. His 75-year-old mother, Harriet Warshak, was sentenced to two years in prison.

(Link)


I guess this means there's a lot of ad time for sale all of a sudden on Fox Soccer Channel.
   35. Jose Can Jussi Jokinen (Justin T) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 03:58 PM (#2971771)
All hard shell tacos are bad. Why the hell anybody would wanna bite into something that crumbles apart when you do so is beyond me. I'm not a fan of beef, lettuce, and cheese all over the table, floor, and myself.

Go soft or don't go at all.
   36. baseballing powerhouse (phredbird) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 04:00 PM (#2971776)
RB, you are right, i had forgotten the specifics. i was trying to find it earlier and it didn't come up on google so i wasn't sure. but i think the ads do run sometimes, not sure how they are getting around the judgment and all that.
   37. Biff, Red Sox Jinx Posted: October 06, 2008 at 04:07 PM (#2971781)
All hard shell tacos are bad. Why the hell anybody would wanna bite into something that crumbles apart when you do so is beyond me. I'm not a fan of beef, lettuce, and cheese all over the table, floor, and myself.

Go soft or don't go at all.


Concur'd.
   38. bunyon Posted: October 06, 2008 at 04:11 PM (#2971784)
Go soft or don't go at all.

Well, you clearly aren't the target audience of these games.
   39. jmurph Posted: October 06, 2008 at 04:44 PM (#2971801)
I guess this means there's a lot of ad time for sale all of a sudden on Fox Soccer Channel.


No: ProActiv, the acne medication, has FSC on lockdown. The commercial with Jennifer Love Hewitt is shown a minimum of 2 times during each commercial break.
   40. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 06, 2008 at 04:50 PM (#2971806)
What annoys me above all else is the new trend for the annoying commercials for idiotic and useless products to be like 2 minutes long. Those Enzyte commercials were awful and there were 40 of them per baseball game, but at least each one was over before I could get annoyed enough to change the channel. Now the commercials for this new enhanced dongwrangling pill are not only even more annoying, because they include liars speaking very sincerely to the viewer about all the nonexistent benefits of their worthless product (instead of just silly and vague slogans about "Bob"), but they are like mini-QVC shows, lasting at least 90 seconds. And these ear-splitting ads for this weird computer phone jack thing with all the green stuff on the screen are even worse.

No wonder I watch a total of zero hours of TBS every year except for the baseball playoffs, if that computer phone jack ad is the kind of commercial TBS viewers have to get used to.
   41. aleskel Posted: October 06, 2008 at 04:56 PM (#2971810)
has no one mentioned TNT's new show, Leverage? C'mon, it's starring Oscar Winner Timothy Hutton!

seriously, I've seen so many frackin' ads for that show I'm even considering watching it.
   42. Harold Reynolds: An Erotic Life (AG#1F) Posted: October 06, 2008 at 05:04 PM (#2971814)
Go soft or don't go at all.


Was that the judge's ruling in the Enzyte lawsuit?
   43. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: October 06, 2008 at 05:24 PM (#2971823)
I have always wanted to start a fast food review site, although I suspect one exists already. I've always wanted a site to show how fast food looks in ads, compared to pics of how it really looks. I got a Burger King Angus burger the other day that looked like a hockey puck.

Have you seen Michael Douglas' "Falling Down"? Their portrayal of a McDonalds-like experience is spot on.
   44. Dave Spiwak Posted: October 06, 2008 at 08:31 PM (#2971973)
Playoff baseball has filled me with an uncontrollable urge to watch Frank TV while drinking rum and eating volcano tacos.
   45. Mike Emeigh Posted: October 06, 2008 at 08:50 PM (#2972013)
GGC, you are a bigshot!


No, he's a little shot - emphasis on the *shot*.

-- MWE
   46. Baseballing powerhouse Crispix Attacks Posted: October 06, 2008 at 09:16 PM (#2972090)
Playoff baseball has filled me with an uncontrollable urge to watch Frank TV while drinking rum and eating volcano tacos.

Sometimes bad guys are the best good guys.
   47. jwb Posted: October 07, 2008 at 01:27 AM (#2972990)
Go soft or don't go at all.
My friend Rafael Palmeiro would like a word with you.
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