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Thursday, July 16, 2009

Psycho Trouser Dropping Dugout

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Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter Posted: July 16, 2009 at 06:57 AM | 66 comment(s)
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   1. Guapo  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 09:04 AM (#3255922)
Re: today's Sotomayor hearing:

Witnesses testifying for the majority Democrats are scheduled to include New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, former Federal Bureau of Investigations Director Louis Freeh and former New York Yankee pitcher David Cone, who may recall Sotomayor's famous ruling that essentially ended the Major League Baseball strike in the mid-1990s.
   2. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 09:12 AM (#3255932)
Sotomayor Confirmation Hearing with the 1977 Royals

U.L. WASHINGTON (chewing toothpick): Yes, please tell us a bit about that, Judge Sotomayor.

SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Why, I'd be happy to talk about that case. And by the way, Mr. Washington, I've always wondered: what does the "U.L." stand for in your name?

[U.L. Washington stares silently at Sonia Sotomayor for, like, three whole minutes.]

SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Well, OK then.

GEORGE BRETT (jumping up and down): Sweet mother of Goose Gossage! (He leaves the room screeching.)

SONIA SOTOMAYOR: The case involved the 1995 player's strike against the owners. I ruled that the owners had violated the basic principles of collective bargaining and ordered the season to resume. The Chicago Sun-Times said that I had "delivered a wicked fastball" to the owners, ha ha ha, whatever that means.

COOKIE ROJAS: So, then, are you a baseball fan, Judge Sotomayor?

[Hal McRae starts totally freaking out.]

HAL McRAE (yelling like a madman): STOP ASKING ALL THESE STUPID-ASSED QUESTIONS!! (He starts throwing phones and shoes and large containers of Gatorade all over the courtroom). SAME STUPID-ASSED #### EVERY SUPREME COURT NOMINATION HEARING. PUT THAT IN YOUR ####### PIPE AND SMOKE IT.
   3. Crispix Attacks is in the best shape of his life.  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 09:25 AM (#3255941)
I just want to say...that this is probably the most incongruous picture I've seen since Michael Jordan started playing for the Wizards.
   4. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 09:28 AM (#3255943)
I just want to say...that this is probably the most incongruous picture I've seen since Michael Jordan started playing for the Wizards

Just wait til the Vikings introduce new QB Brett Favre.
   5. Ryan Jones  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 09:29 AM (#3255946)
Just wait til the Vikings introduce new QB Brett Favre.


Nah. We've already got pictures of him in a Jets uniform, so the shock value is gone for Favre.
   6. Der Komminsk-sar  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 09:31 AM (#3255949)
I just want to say...that this is probably the most incongruous picture I've seen since Michael Jordan started playing for the Wizards.
Nah. Pedro was kind of itinerant - Dodgers, Expos, Mets, Red Sox ... a fifth team is no big deal.

Question: At what point did ceremonial first pitches move from the grandstand to the field? Who was the first president to be on the field for the pitch?
   7. Crispix Attacks is in the best shape of his life.  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 09:32 AM (#3255951)
The Jets uniform was green (and it seemed like half the games he played in was in the yellow throwback), so it was not quite as odd a transition.

I don't have any memory of him playing for the Expos or Dodgers.

Also, the one which most recently threw me off kilter was Smoltz in a Red Sox uniform.

Haven't seen that. That would be odd.

The Pedro effect is amplified by my being a Phillies fan of course. Jim Thome in a Phillies uniform? Holy crap! Pedro Martinez in a Phillies uniform? Holy crap! Raul Ibanez in a Phillies uniform? Eh, I was never sure what he looked like anyway.
   8. Ryan Jones  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 09:33 AM (#3255952)
Also, the one which most recently threw me off kilter was Smoltz in a Red Sox uniform.
   9. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM (#3255983)
Crispix is Miss Cleo.
   10. Best Regards, Larry Mahnken  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM (#3255988)
I don't have any memory of him playing for the Expos or Dodgers.
That's sad.
   11. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:11 AM (#3255993)
Even if he was a guy who floated around a bit, I was still weirded out by Randy Johnson in a Yankee uniform.
   12. ess eff  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:13 AM (#3255996)
For a Cardinals fan, Jim Edmonds in a Cubs uniform was conflicting.

Not quite the same thing as the others, but Jane Leavy's Koufax book ("Lefty's Legacy") has a picture of Sandy in a garish multi-colored Albuquerque Dukes uniform during his tenure as an instructor in the '70s. The most dignified of major leaguers, who played his whole career for a team with the most basic of uniforms, looked really weird in a clown suit.
   13. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM (#3256001)

Not quite the same thing as the others, but Jane Leavy's Koufax book ("Lefty's Legacy") has a picture of Sandy in a garish multi-colored Albuquerque Dukes uniform during his tenure as an instructor in the '70s. The most dignified of major leaguers, who played his whole career for a team with the most basic of uniforms, looked really weird in a clown suit.


Seeing great ballplayers as coaches is weird - Robin Yount as a Diamondback, Paul Molitor as a Mariner, Ted Williams as a Texas Ranger. Unsettling!
   14. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:21 AM (#3256002)
That's sad.


I think that Crispix has said before that he's only been following baseball for around a decade.
   15. Crispix Attacks is in the best shape of his life.  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:29 AM (#3256009)
I became a fan almost overnight, in June 1998 or so. Pedro was on the Red Sox then! The Red Sox were the team led by Pedro, Nomar and Mo Vaughn. That was the only year Pedro and Mo Vaughn played together, though.
   16. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:37 AM (#3256020)
Oh yeah, I saw a picture of Babe Ruth as a Brooklyn Dodger coach once. That was really, really weird.
   17. Trevor Crowe T. Robot (Dan Lee)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:43 AM (#3256026)
I remember it happening, I even remember watching it, but this player in this uniform is the very definition of cognitive dissonance for me.
   18. Dr Love  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM (#3256029)
Oh yeah, I saw a picture of Babe Ruth as a Brooklyn Dodger coach once. That was really, really weird.


That is weird, because he coached for the Braves.

This one is always a bit weird because you don't think of him on that team.
   19. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:49 AM (#3256035)
That is weird, because he coached for the Braves.
And the Dodgers, smart ass.
   20. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:49 AM (#3256036)
In the Reggie as Oriole department, there's this
   21. Trevor Crowe T. Robot (Dan Lee)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:50 AM (#3256038)
There's an interesting blog post about this very topic here.

Thurman Thomas in a Dolphins uniform just makes my brain hurt.
   22. Dr Love  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:57 AM (#3256049)
And the Dodgers, smart ass.


He was a coach though, not a player.

Also, your Piazza picture is a broken link. You might want to try this.
   23. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 10:59 AM (#3256052)
Weird.

Weird.

Weird.

Its also weird to see players who were with a certain team when you started following baseball - and you see pictures of them with their previous team. Like its still weird for me to see Ozzie Smith in a Padres uniform, Keith Hernandez in a Cardinals uniform, or Gary Carter in an Expos uniform
   24. Trevor Crowe T. Robot (Dan Lee)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM (#3256059)
Trevor Hoffman as a Marlin is just plain goofy.
   25. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 11:31 AM (#3256087)
Dr. Love:

You have me confused.

Rb wrote that he saw Ruth as a coach with the Dogdgers.

Your response indicated that Rb was wrong.

Which he was not.

And others spoke to seeing former players in uniforms as coaches and being confused, just as Rb described.

What am I missing?
   26. Dr Love  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM (#3256090)
A "They were on the Marlins?" team, albeit a bit incomplete (some already mentioned):

C Mike Piazza
1B Kevin Millar
2B Quilvio Veras (2B was tough)
3B Terry Pendleton (no pictures) or Todd Zeile (also no picture)
SS Walt Weiss
OF Andre Dawson, Devon White, Carl Everett

SP Kevin Brown, John Burkett, Charlie Hough, David Weathers (he started for them)

RP Trevor Hoffman, Robb Nen
   27. Dr Love  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM (#3256092)
Harvey, what's missing is that I'm an idiot and skipped over the "as a coach" part in the original post.
   28. JJ1986  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM (#3256099)
A "They were on the Marlins?" team, albeit a bit incomplete (some already mentioned):

I remember most of those guys, but I have no memory of Terry Pendleton ever playing for the Marlins. If I had to remember where he spent 1995, I would have named at least four or five teams before even thinking of Florida.
   29. Watch out for the door, Omar...(Met Fan Charlie)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM (#3256100)
Let me try this again.
   30. Watch out for the door, Omar...(Met Fan Charlie)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM (#3256106)
For New Yorkers of a certain age, this was an era best forgotten...
   31. Dr Love  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM (#3256110)
You had it right the first time.

Remember when Reggie White and Deion Sanders came out of retirement?
   32. Trevor Crowe T. Robot (Dan Lee)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM (#3256117)
You could also put together a pretty solid 25-man "They were on the Indians?" roster from the last 25 years or so:

C: Lance Parrish
1B: Keith Hernandez
2B: Jeff Kent
3B: Dave Hollins
SS: Shawon Dunston
OF: Harold Baines, Brady Anderson, Dave Winfield
DH: Cecil Fielder
Bench: Rick Dempsey, Tony Fernandez, Bip Roberts, Kevin Mitchell, Mark McLemore

SP: Steve Carlton, Dwight Gooden, Mark Langston, Bobby Witt, John Smiley
RP: Gregg Olson, Jeff Shaw, Kent Mercker, Dennis Cook, Justin Speier, David Weathers (who seems to be on a lot of these teams)
   33. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:08 PM (#3256130)
They were Oakland A's?

C Piazza
1b Ken Phelps
2b Joe Morgan
3b Ron Cey
SS Nomah
LF Billy Williams
CF Willie Wilson
RF Dave Justice
DH Dick Allen
Pitchers: Don Sutton, Tommy John, Goose Gossage, Ron Darling. Not a lot of guys are springing to mind for the pitching staff, actually.

edit: Replace Phelps with Willie Mac. Sorry Stretch!
   34. Crispix Attacks is in the best shape of his life.  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:09 PM (#3256134)
Being a latecomer as stated earlier, my only memories of Dave Winfield actually playing are from when he was an Indian.

You could make an 80-man roster of well-known players who ended up on the A's just before retirement.

They were Pirates?

C: Benito Santiago
1B: Sean Casey
2B: Jeff Reboulet
3B: Joe Randa
SS: Cesar Izturis
LF: Jeromy Burnitz
CF: Gary Matthews Jr.
RF: Raul Mondesi (if he hadn't inspired the name of a popular blog, that is)

That's from just the last decade. Name the two who weren't washed up at the time!
   35. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:12 PM (#3256138)
White, Nen and Brown don't seem like obsecure Marlins to me, since they were all on the '97 title team.
   36. Trevor Crowe T. Robot (Dan Lee)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM (#3256147)
Casey was actually a candidate for "They were Indians?" as well.

A few of the guys on the Indians team were actually super-memorable for long-time Indians fans. Fernandez hit a huge homer in the '97 ALCS, Kent came over as part of the Baerga trade in '96, and Gooden was a pretty crucial part of the rotation in '98 when they went to the ALCS. I included them because nobody ever thinks of them as being Indians.
   37. Jason Kendall's #6,530,420,771 fan (AS)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:28 PM (#3256167)
Didn't we do this Unmemorables Roster thing a couple months ago?

Groundhog Primer.
   38. Trevor Crowe T. Robot (Dan Lee)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:29 PM (#3256170)
Okay, what about "they were in a Bill Murray film?"

C: Ryan Seacrest
1B: RZA
2B: Jamie Farr
3B: The GZA
SS: Howard Hesseman
LF: A.C. Green
CF: Andy Warhol
RF: Phil Hartman

SP: Alex Trebek, George "The Animal" Steele, Morganna, Ron Jeremy, Sid Vicious
RP: Bob Goldthwait, Jack Black, Rodney Dangerfield, Steve Martin, Chris Elliott

Strength Coach: Diesel Pfingsten
   39. ess eff  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM (#3256174)
Not a lot of guys are springing to mind for the pitching staff, actually



Shooty, try Tommy John, Joaquin Andujar and Eric Show
   40. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:36 PM (#3256180)
Shooty, try Tommy John, Joaquin Andujar and Eric Show

I mentioned John. I hate Andujar and Show so #### them. They don't get to be on my team.
   41. Obama Bomaye  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM (#3256186)
No, the RZA has to be catching and the Genius is pitching. Check the verse in "Clan in da Front."
   42. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM (#3256187)
"(T)hey were in a Bill Murray film?"

Peter Boyle
Jamie Faar
   43. Dr Love  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:47 PM (#3256190)
C: Benito Santiago


Perhaps the starting catcher on the All Journey Man Team. 8 teams in 13 seasons since leaving the Padres, including 2 different stints with one team.
   44. Ryan Jones  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM (#3256192)
A few of the guys on the Indians team were actually super-memorable for long-time Indians fans. Fernandez hit a huge homer in the '97 ALCS


Fernandez may also be super-memorable to Indians fans for a fairly notable error in the World Series.
   45. Young Blasarius yonder  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:52 PM (#3256197)
They were Angels?

C Pat Borders
1B Bill Buckner
2B Edgardo Alfonzo
SS Kurt Stillwell
3B Gary Gaetti
OF Tony Conigliaro
OF Ron Gant
OF Bo Jackson
DH Alvin Davis
PH Gregg Jefferies

SP Fernando Valenzuela
SP Jerry Reuss
SP Bob Turley
SP Luis Tiant
SP Joe Nuxhall
RP Hoyt Wilhelm
   46. Trevor Crowe T. Robot (Dan Lee)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:54 PM (#3256202)
Fernandez may also be super-memorable to Indians fans for a fairly notable error in the World Series.

We prefer not to dwell on the '97 World Series, so as not to jump off the Terminal Tower en masse.
   47. ess eff  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:54 PM (#3256203)
Having missed the first installment, I'll take a swing at They Were Cardinals?

C - Rick Wilkins
1B - Matty Alou (and, yes, that really is where they played him). Also, Walter Alston
2B - Ron Hunt
SS - Don Kessinger
3B - John McGraw
CF - Eric Davis
LF - Minnie Minoso
RF - Bobby Bonds
P - Cy Young, Paul Derringer, Mike Cuellar, Fernando Valenzuela, Dazzy Vance, Dan Quisenberry, Jesse Orosco and, in a special group appearance, all four members of the Big Red Machine's bullpen committee -- Clay Carroll, Rawley Eastwick, Will McEnany and Pedro Borbon.
   48. Watch out for the door, Omar...(Met Fan Charlie)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM (#3256208)
Obscure Mets:

1B Jim Lindeman
2B Jay Bell
SS Larry Bowa
3B How much time ya got?
C Yogi
OF Darrin Jackson
OF Brett Butler
OF Kevin Bass

Bench:
Rick Cerone
Jesus Alou
Mike Marshall
Melvin Mora
Juan Samuel
Jimmy Piersall
Tommy Herr

SP:
Doc Medich
Bob Friend
Frank Tanana
Warren Spahn
John Candelaria

RP:
Dick Tidrow
Orel Hersheiser
Clem Labine
Mike Marshall
Dan Schatzeder
   49. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 12:58 PM (#3256210)
No Willie Mays in CF?
   50. Coot Veal and Cot Deal  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 01:02 PM (#3256218)
Seeing great ballplayers as coaches is weird - Robin Yount as a Diamondback, Paul Molitor as a Mariner, Ted Williams as a Texas Ranger. Unsettling!


my favorite Ted Williams photo
   51. Tiboreau  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 01:02 PM (#3256219)
Joe Gordon's first year as player manager for the 1951 Sacramento Solons of the PCL:
pos. . g  pa  ab h 2b 3b hr  tb  r rbi bb  k sb  avgobpslgopshp tob
46 
148 566 485 145 24  3 43 304 97 136 78 39  2 .299 .399 .627  169 3 226

Unfortunately, Gordon's league leading OPS+ (which is unadjusted for park since I have no idea how Edmonds Field played) was only good enough to push the perennially second division ballclub from last to seventh.
   52. Watch out for the door, Omar...(Met Fan Charlie)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 01:03 PM (#3256220)
No Willie Mays in CF?


Too obvious. And he played in a WS with 'em.
   53. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 01:05 PM (#3256223)
Too obvious. And he played in a WS with 'em.

Good point.
   54. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 01:29 PM (#3256262)
I think I did this before, but in the sake of completedness:

They were Royals?

C Benito Santiago
1B Orlando Cepeda
2B Bobby Knoop
SS Bucky Dent
3B Scott Cooper
LF Kirk Gibson
CF Cesar Geronimo
RF Juan Gonzalez
DH Harmon Killebrew

SP Gaylord Perry
   55. Philippe  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 03:22 PM (#3256398)
They were Expos ?

C Charlie O'Brien
1B John Milner
2B Manny Trillo
SS Frank Taveras
3B Graig Nettles
LF Troy O'Leary
CF Kenny Williams
RF Jim Northrup
SP Ron Darling
RP Lee Smith
   56. JJ1986  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 03:43 PM (#3256430)
Jeff Conine and Trot Nixon were both on the Mets very briefly in the last couple of years.
   57. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 04:21 PM (#3256477)
Cubs sign BJ Ryan

Royals finally DFA Tony Pena Jr.
   58. Von Schlitz  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 05:20 PM (#3256506)
Brewers:

C Rick Dempsy
1B Julio Franco
2B Willie Randolph
SS Tony Fernandez
3B Kevin Seitzer
OF Felipe Alou
OF Jimmy Wynn
OF Devon White
DH Dave Parker
SP Tom Candiotti, Hideo Nomo, Jim Abbott
RP Rob Dibble, Eric Plunk
   59. Trevor Crowe T. Robot (Dan Lee)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 05:50 PM (#3256540)
OF Jimmy Wynn

I had no idea. Wowsers.

Doug Jones would have been a nice addition to the Brewers team if he hadn't gone back for a second tour of duty in the mid 90s.
   60. Ned Garvin: Male Prostitute  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 07:10 PM (#3256679)
Three Finger Brown started out with the Cardinals, right? Then got traded to the Cubs for Jack Taylor and played for some famous teams. I doubt many think of him as a Cardinal.
   61. Fumbduck Joe Bivens  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 07:28 PM (#3256709)
Red Sox

C Elston Howard, Cerone
1B
2B
3B
SS Luis Aparicio
OF Rickey
OF Kevin Mitchell
OF Jack Clark
OF Otis Nixon
DH Orlando Cepeda
SP Tom Seaver, Nomo
   62. Brandon in MO (Fire Trey Hillman)  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 07:33 PM (#3256720)
Here's an alternate "They were Royals?" team

C Pat Borders
1B Warren Cromartie
2B Wilton Guerrero
SS Joe McEwing
3B Gregg Jefferies
LF Chuck Knoblauch
CF Endy Chavez
RF Dave Henderson
DH Gerald Perry

SP Dennis Rasmussen
RP Gregg Olson
RP Mitch Williams
RP Hideo Nomo
RP Rick Reed
   63. walt williams bobblehead  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 07:42 PM (#3256737)
One of the weirdest ones in sports is Moses Malone playing the first two games of his NBA career for Buffalo.
   64. PH  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 08:06 PM (#3256791)
The White Sox:

C - Charles Johnson
1B - Phil Cavarretta
2B - Johnny Evers
3B - Ron Santo
SS - Bucky Dent
OF - Edd Roush
OF - Ruben Sierra
OF - George Foster
UT - Bobby Bonilla

SP - Steve Carlton
SP - Chief Bender
SP - Dave Stieb
SP - Tom Seaver
SP - Herb Score
CL - Jeff Shaw
   65. Kiko Sakata  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 08:11 PM (#3256805)
SP - Steve Carlton


Carlton's on 4 or 5 of these teams. I read something not too long ago, referring to "Twins Hall-of-Famers" that listed Carew, Killebrew, and Steve Carlton. It was like, "WTF? Steve Carlton is a TWINS Hall-of-Famer!?" He pitched 52 innings at an 8.54 ERA in his immortal Twins career!
   66. Alex_Lewis  Posted: July 16, 2009 at 09:05 PM (#3256921)
They were Giants?

C - Ernie Lombardi
1B - Dave Bergman
2B - Manny Trillo
3B - Heinie Zimmerman (I'm reaching - led the league in RBI during 1916, with 86!)
SS - Dick Groat
OF - George Foster
OF - Darryl Strawberry
OF - Eric Davis
UT - Shawon Dunston

SP - Dolf Luque
SP - Steve Stone
SP - Steve Carlton (again!)
SP - Orel Hershiser
SP - Rick Reuschel
CL - Firpo Marberry (this is cheating)

Many honorable mentions, including Joe Morgan, Joe Carter and Benito Santiago. Also, Cannonball Titscomb, because he had the most incredible name I've ever seen.
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