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The Marlins cut Dallas McPherson. He's certainly intriguing, no?
I disagree, he's a very competent talented player who has fallen off a cliff, still relatively young and if he is honest in his belief that he is trying to regain something then I can see him being worth a crap.
for the record, as a betting man, and a guy who honestly thinks Andruw Jones has been over rated for any of his career (at no point after 2000 has andruw ever had a better overall season than Edmons) I still don't think it's unlikely for him to eventually rebound.
No. He can't make contact consistently enough to be successful anywhere outside the PCL.
-- MWE
Are you talking about Andruw Jones or McPherson? Catalanotto can make contact but that's about it.
Edit: he's just short on PA, but John Lowenstein is over 90% too.
So how many people who fall off a cliff get up and recover?
In a way, Wile E. Coyote is the grittiest WB cartoon ever. And Daffy Duck was the Rickey of the group. SO So great.
here's the thing about cliff remedies.
If some drunk, dumb bastard recommends the trip down
just say no
Yes.
ignoring PED rumors
Mark McGwire, Reggie Jackson(lot older at the time though),Gary Gaetti, Reggie Sanders, Fred Lynn. Now none of them were as drastic as Andruw Jones except maybe McGwire, but still it's evidence that players can have an off year or two and rebound. Again I wouldn't bet on it, but it wouldn't be impossible. Heck if he could rebound to a 100 ops+ that would have to qualify as a success.
I enjoy the idea that as a kid, I rooted for the roadrunner. Now that I'm all old and jaded, I'd love to see Wile E get ahold of that little ###### just once.
Andres Galarraga had a few really down years before he went to Colorado, if I remember. Of course, Coors pre-humidor may cancel out any serious inclusion.
it's easier to recover from an illness than to recover from aging I'd think. You can beat cancer. Nobody's found a fountain of youth.
He did, but that was once he went from Colorado to Atlanta - that was his second comeback. The first one (when he signed with Colorado after sucking hugely with St. Louis) is the monstrous cliff recovery (from a non-injury caused cliff dive).
Mike Lowell's 2005 season.
You're kidding, right? None of them, including McGwire, were remotely as drastic as Andruw Jones. Not within the same continent.
players can have an off year or two and rebound
They can, and do. But to describe Jones' cliff-dive as an "off year" is to vastly understate it. Jones's catastrophic decline from 2006 to 2008 was among the handful of most extreme ever displayed in the history of the sport. It isn't quite Steve Blass mode, but it's close. It's definitely Zoilo Versalles territory.
Jones might come back, but if he does it will be one of the most daunting comebacks ever presented. It could happen, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Jones might come back, but if he does it will be one of the most daunting comebacks ever presented. It could happen, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I haven't seen Andruw this season, but one of the reasons that I think it's possible is that I fully do think that much of his decline was due to his weight gain, and if he fixes that problem, it's akin to recovering from an injury. Again I agree I don't think he is going to fully bounce back at all but I don't think it's a monumental task for him to recover. (historical yes)
I agree that it's pretty obvious his weight was at the heart of the problem. But it wasn't as though he suddenly got fat in 2008; he'd been carrying around too many extra pounds for many years. And the problem with that was the strain it put on his knees, resulting in the knee surgery (actually he had two knee surgeries in '08, didn't he?).
Anyway, yes, sure, a new svelte Andruw with surgically repaired knees is a much different guy from the one we saw last year. But my worry is that surgically repaired knees have a way of going bad again, and people with years of weight problems have a way of seeing the weight creep back up. We shall see. I've always been a fan of his, and hope he can get it at least part of the way together, but rarely in history have we seen a train wreck as grisly as this one get back up and rolling very well ever again.
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