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WORLD SERIES HERO BOBBY KIELTY!!!
YEAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really? I lived in Cambridge for 5 years and frequently wore a Yankee cap. I wore it in the bleachers at Fenway. No fights. Now, I'm a pretty big guy, and don't generally act like an ass, but I was actually suprised how little grief I caught. Has winning really made Sox fans angrier?
Similarly at Yankee stadium, I've only ever seen Red Sox fans abused if they acted like asses themselves. You sit there watching the game with your girlfriend, nothing happens. You and three buddies decide to be wiseguys, beer showers ensue.
Excuse me for my crankiness, but you're an idiot if you think that's actually true.
I watched the 2006 ALDS/ALCS in a central square bar with some friends of mind, and we all sported our A's gear. Was I picking a fight? Or is it only picking a fight if your regionalism is confined to the New York area?
This is so stupid. A bunch of drunken idiots beat up a poor guy - does it matter what team any of them rooted for?
The victim's girlfriend doesn't think so.
Sorry Justin, but that's unacceptable. As a Red Sox fan who has walked into NY bars with a Boston cap on, I can't accept that this is "picking a fight".
Unless the Yankee fan swung first, there is no excuse. Period.
exactly what i was thinking.
If only the Cambridgeport Saloon were still open...
Just curious as to when you lived there... I have Yankee fan friends with similar stories who feel that the YankSox rivlary has only taken these ugly turns in the last 10 years.
emailing Lou Dobbs...
It seems particularly odd too, since Warren, one of the bartenders at the Cantab, is a Yankees fan. He almost always roots against the Red Sox. And the bouncer there is a mountain of a man, although apparently he isn't very fast.
Sorry Justin, but no.
This is the sort of neanderthal sentiment that underlies and perpetuates such such thuggery. It's not limited to either side (IIRC some Yankee fans sent a guy wearing a Sox cap to the hospital in Yonkers last year), but there is just no excuse for it.
I wear my Sox cap everywhere in NYC, and have never had any problems; it would be nice to think that the local fans of the team I root for would extend the same courtesy to "Ex-Pats" on the other side.
Even if the guy was being a dick, it doesn't excuse physical violence of a mob of people beating a single person. The guy who started the fight is the one who threw the first punch.
Fortunately I'm larger than your average Asian.
For God's sake, people! You're fanatics.
I take back my previous comment; I've gotten some dirty looks. After Bill Mueller's walk off against Rivera, somebody offered to set it on fire the next monday morning, but given that he was dressed like a marketing exec I don't think he was really serious (or had an open flame).
But nothing beyond that.
Wade Boggs himself once got into a bar fight over Britain's greatest Prime Ministers.
yo i woulnd't mess with those guys, they mean business
Edit: Seriously though, I wear my Red Sox hat regularly (and bright red jersey), but I would never in any holy deity's name wear it to a 1000 person Wang rally.
That sounds terribly wrong btw.
Sorry, I'm piling on too. Very stupid thing to say. Both because of what it implies (well, if someone picks a fight with you...) and because it simply isn't true.
I would've bet the Field too, or maybe even The Phoenix Landing. I wonder if the yuppies next door at Tavern on the Square were upset.
Is your other handle Jesus Melendez?
Fortunately I'm larger than your average Asian.
You must be pretty damned big, then, since this is my impression of the average-sized Asian.
Early to mid-90's. Went to Opening Day every year, and as many Yankees games as I could. Always wore my Yankee cap to games, and a fair amount around town, out to bars, etc. I was in college/post-college, so I wore baseball caps a lot :-)
That was one of our jokes that were actually true. You go to a class during registration week, look around, if most of the guys aren't wearing ball caps, bag it, it'll be too hard.
Oh, now that's just a low blow. That's mean-spirited.
Obviously spoiled Harvard brats.
"I asked him if he liked apples. But he f'n said, 'No.' I didn't f'n know what to do. So I f'n slugged him."
(laughter)
"But you got digits."
"Huh?"
"You got the digits first, right? Before you asked about the apples, you got the girlfriend's digits."
"Oh... ah...."
(laughter... and, scene).
I was skeptical about that story too. The two pugilists in question were from Central Pennsylvania. It was certainly possible they were both Yankee fans, but I don't recall any actual evidence of it.
Barney: And I say, England's greatest Prime Minister was Lord Palmerston!
Wade: Pitt the Elder!
Barney: Lord Palmerston!
Wade: Pitt the Elder!
I'm going to venture a guess that the Cambridge man's last name ended with a vowel. Just a guess.
Anyway, having spent a lot of time on the front lines of the Yankees/Sox rivalry (grew up a Yankee fan in Massachusetts, went to a college in NY that draws a lot of people from the Boston area), my experience has been that it has mostly been unfriendly, but not violent, except for 2003 and 2004. Things got pretty ugly those two years.
No reason, just there are a few people who want to fight. I'm skinny, not especially manly looking, drunken idiots hate how I dress, and straight people tend to think I'm gay. This is the equivalent of wearing a Yankees cap, just something you can target as a "reason" to get violent if you are looking for a reason to do so.
The remarkable thing is that you'd be shocked to discover just how correct you are. Spillage would go down by something like 75%.
Hmm, I don't see too many guys wearing pink Yankees or Red Sox caps. Usually chicks. Sometimes pretty chicks. If you're gonna wail on a cute chick, I'm gonna have to step in and get some glory.
A non-baseball fan friend of mine in Brooklyn used to wear a Pirates cap and sometimes got yelled at for it. He once complained that someone said, "If you're a Pirates fan then you're an idiot!" I was forced to tell my friend that his harasser was correct in his judgments, and told him the tale of Pat Mears' Crippled Paw, and that of Operation Shutdown.
Agreed. Thread over!
I think, but am not positive, that revenue from the pink hats (of all teams) goes towards breast cancer research. So, technically, you guys hate women and are pro-cancer. That seems like bad form to me.
When do I get payback for the creepy Reggie Jackson wave that haunts my dreams?
But MLB would charge you the privilege of urinating on MLB Properties. And their would be a limit of 60 seconds in duration to urinate on MLB Properities.
They don't.
I was not kidding in the least.
For the record, two guys threatened to beat me up for wearing a Dbacks hat on the NYC subway a couple of days after game 7 of the 2001 world series.
Unlike real fans (i.e., Red Sox Nation faithful), they were all talk, no action.
FTFY
Is the writer implying that Bostonians have Irish accents (thus, the assailants were obviously Red Sox fans) or that they were from Ireland, or what?
http://www.2wentysfancydress.co.uk/acatalog/21305.jpg.
I'm glad that you made this distinction. Because if you tried to wail on Wifebert about her pink hat, well, I'm not sure I could hold her back.
Hell, I've had to duck myself a few times when my teasing apparently crossed the line.
Yeah, but it's practically yuppified compared to the old days. When I was a kid in the '70s and early '80s the bleachers/upper deck were really special. In retrospect I can't believe my father took me. Between the haze of pot smoke obscuring the field, and the coins/batteries tossed at oufielders, to the burning building on the drive home from the Stadium (and my father always insisted on taking local streets, hated the Deegan traffic). Wow! I don't miss that at all.
Bad form maybe, but consistent.
If you had done that in Detroit, you would've been stabbed to death.
Granted, that would've happened if you were wearing A's gear or not, but...
My SWAG is that Pirates caps are the third most popular in NYC. To this day, Roberto Clemente is a huge icon to local Puerto Rican kids.
The A's didn't last long enough in that series for anybody to get stabbed to death.
Been to dozens of games at the COPA and the most offensive thing I've seen is a Yankee fan who thought he could take a piss while standing at the rail in SRO.
"Wow. This is, uhhh... This is a black day for baseball."
Until now, this was one advantage of being a Rays fan. Red Sox or Yankees diehards see you wearing the cap and they mostly feel sorry for you (and then ask you how Racco Baldelli's injuries are coming along)....
I did wear Marlins gear to Yankee Stadium during the World Series and had no problems though, although it's a different crowd when the prices are jacked way up.
If it is, it's not particularly funny, and it's fooled some other news outlets.
I agree entirely. This is a great thing. The more Red Sox and Yankees fans take each other out, the less the rest of us have to deal with all their nonsense.
edit:
This is also very true. A friend of mine last night was telling me how he was at The Sunset in Allston and a guy came up to him and his friend and started telling my friend he didn't believe he was 21 and that he needed to leave the bar (my friend was 21, though kinda small and younger looking, and this guy wasn't even an employee or anything at the place.) Eventually it goes on long enough that he slams my friend's head into the wall. He said he only didn't take a swipe at the guy after that was because he liked going to that bar.
Really? I though the Irish accents and striped shirts was a giveaway. And then I clicked on their News section and the top headlines were
and
A Red Sox Scout found out his penis was a Yankee fan, and he beat the hell out of it.
You didn't say you weren't...
and we get a thread about it.
From: Robbers Take Cash, Leave Wallet Behind
Love that dry humor!
I got a community advisory email from Harvard about the flasher incident, so I hope its not a joke.
You do realize these are fighting words?
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