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I am a Braves fan who doesn't hold anything personal against Mike Hampton, but I would have bet my children that he's been with Atlanta for at least the last 67 years.
Good riddance.
7 years for eleventy billion dollars.
hampton agrees to spend '09 on DL with astros.
or did they do one like that already?
1. Only received Cy Young votes once
2. Never homered as a Met or an Astro
3. 1 career save
4. Has been hit by a pitch 5 times
5. If you take out his marginal first year with the Mariners when he barely started and ignore this 2008 season, he only had one losing season.
I'm in for a 6-pack of Belgian beer on this bet.
$2MM guaranteed for a 36 year old that has pitched 78 sub-replacement level innings in 3.5 years. That's a bad move, even for Ed Wade.
Frank Wren = not smart
Wow. That's an incredibly depressing question. To depress you even more, what about a three way face off with Mark Prior in the mix? Or is he still beholden to the Padres?
How are the schools in Houston?
- for the incredibly rich like him? just fine thank you. (like his kidz would be caught dead going to any of the city of houston skoolz - don't make me laff) he can even send his boys to st thomas to play ball with biggio. if he's got grrrls, they got nunneries too
- and this is the guy who basically DEMANDED to be traded back at the end of 99 - couldn't STAND houston. but i hear that he supposedly "lives" here - no state taxes in texas. yet.
maharishi mahesh yogi berra (phredbird) Posted: December 01, 2008 at 05:28 PM (#3018264)
huh ... is baseball chick going to go ballistic? is he hotter than brad ausmus?
- i will only go ballistic if hampton replaces wandy
now i do suppose if is possible for a white boy to be hottern brad ausmus - i got an open mind and eyes that work juuuuuuust fine thank u
but comparing mike hampton to brad ausmus is like comparing roseann barr to (insert hot chick of your choice here)
Eeeeeexcellent.
tim lincecum and roy oswalt say - short guys ROOL
pedro agrees
sincerely,
mike hampton
actually I'm pretty sure that an 88 ERA+ is comfortably above replacement level for a starter.
154 pitchers last year had 60+ip while starting 60% or more of their games (which gives us roughly 5 sp per team...) Hampton's ERA+ out of that group was 113th- 4th starter territory- close to 5th starter territory- but that is still better than replacement level- looks to me that replacement level is around 70 ERA+ for starters...
Hampton's career OPS+ really is higher than Bourn's.
i don't get why so many people really think that replacement level starter throws 180-200 innings of 100 ERA+
Edit: The post I muffed earlier was an attempt to post cards of Ausmus and Hampton.
Yes. But the notion that Hampton will actually deliver an 88 ERA+ in any significant number of innings is laughable. Rate stats ain't nearly all of it.
True ... but then I don't think we have a good idea of how to define "replacement level starter."
Over the last 3 seasons, you get only 296 pitcher-seasons of 25+ starts or roughly 3 1/3 starters per team per season ... and of course some of those pitcher-seasons are from guys who are "replacement" starters. Basically that means that the average team is getting something on the order of 50-60 starts a year from guys who weren't intended to be in their opening day rotation. By one definition, the guys getting those 50-60 starts a year are "replacement level starters" -- they weren't intended to be in the rotation, they mostly started the year in the minors or long relief, many are AAAA journeymen -- and they tend to pitch poorly. By another definition, one simply has to accept that the modern rotation is actually 7-8 pitchers deep, not 5, and these guys are "starting" starters.
By the first definition, Hampton is a replacement-level (or worse) starter; by the second defintion (as #28 basically points out), he's well above replacement level -- if he can manage 60+ IP. :-)
But, going into the season, team's intended rotations (i.e. the first definition roughly) are not chock full of guys expected to post 88 ERA+s. If you look at pitchers who have at least 25 starts (total) over the last 3 years, #90 is a 101 ERA+, #120 is a 95 and #150 is an 89 (Jason Marquis!! He always shows up in a key spot in these lists I cook up!) That is likely a more accurate picture of non-replacement level pitching talent -- the only problem is probably half those guys are injured! :-) Anyway, it puts Hampton (if healthy) probably right on the 5th starter/replacement level cusp.
And of course it shows the value of a Marquis in that he has been able to go out there and give you 150-180 IP every year. And it's the best evidence that Kenny Williams is good GM -- the Sox have had just 35 replacement starts in the last 4 seasons combined.
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