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Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Rosenthal: Brewers set to throw $100 million at CC

The latest on San Diego’s quest to move Jake Peavy:

The Braves and Padres remain at an impasse in their trade discussions concerning right-hander Jake Peavy, sources say.

The Padres are believed to be asking for five players, knowing the Braves parted with that many when they acquired first baseman Mark Teixeira and left-hander Ron Mahay from the Rangers.

Of course, the players and combinations remain fluid, and the final package could hinge on whether the Braves take back shortstop Khalil Greene as a replacement for Yunel Escobar, who likely would be included in the deal.

Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: October 29, 2008 at 06:55 PM | 21 comment(s)
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   1. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 07:16 PM (#2998993)
Um ok. But what about the other 50 million? Or if you listen to the resident Brewer fan doubling as CC's agent, ONE BEEEELLLLIIIOOOON DOLLARS.

Or something like that....
   2. Darren  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 07:17 PM (#2998995)
It's a one year deal.
   3. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 07:17 PM (#2998996)
I have to believe he'll get Zito money, so $100M is way low.

D'oh, 4 years at $25M is a reasonable per season offer. Still think another team will outdo it.
   4. BeanoCook  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 07:22 PM (#2999000)
I'm writing in CC for President.
   5. BeanoCook  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 07:23 PM (#2999001)
This Brewers offer just guarantees CC will get 8 years $200 million at a minimum. More likely 10-years $250 million.
   6. Carl Spongberg  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 07:26 PM (#2999004)
Would he be willing to forgo 10–20 million on his 150–170 million contract to stay in Milwaukee? If he would then they’d be stupid not to take him up. If there’s no discount then they will never keep up with the Yankees. Why do we need this story before the world series is even over?
   7. MM1f  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 07:34 PM (#2999010)
Ugh, please Wren.. DON'T TRADE YUNEL!
   8. Frank Rook  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 07:50 PM (#2999030)
There was a rumor of a bigger offer for 5 years. I think an offer will include a 5th year with a club option of $30M or so. The Brewers current TV deal runs through 2012 and Brewers telecasts were number one in prime time in Milwaukee on about 40 occassions. If the Brewers can stay competitive they should be able to get a much better TV deal, or maybe even start their own network.
   9. SouthSideRyan  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 08:06 PM (#2999061)
Beaten to the Beano joke. Dammit.
   10. Sam M.  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 08:08 PM (#2999073)
[Rick] Peterson's emphasis on conditioning and throwing strikes seemingly would fit with what Ryan wants to accomplish, and the former A's and Mets pitching coach remains a leading candidate for the Rangers.

Hah, hah, hah, hah, hahhahahhahahahahahahahahah . . . .

You have to laugh, or else you'll just cry. I'll give you conditioning. But if Rick Peterson was putting an emphasis on "throwing strikes," he had to be the single least effective pitching coach -- hell, the least effective coach -- in the history of baseball in getting his point across during his tenure with the New York Baseball Mets. Last year, the Mets were next-to-last in the NL in walks allowed with 590 -- better than only the Pirates, who gave up an astonishing 657 walks. In 2007, fourth from the bottom. They were getting consistently worse throughout Peterson's tenure.

But it wasn't just that Peterson wasn't getting through to his charges. He never put an emphasis on throwing strikes. To the contrary, his most important points of emphasis were (a) his pitchers' mechanics, (b) the mental dimension of the game -- confidence, focus, etc. -- and (c) keeping the ball down to avoid XBHs (especially homers). Say what you want about that philosophy, but strikes were never a huge part of what he talked about. And his pitchers' performance showed it.
   11. andrewberg  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 08:11 PM (#2999077)
Did anyone listen to that Matt Berry-Bill Simmons piece on espn.com where they took offers for bribes to join their fantasy basketball league? People were offering to get tattoos, give them WS tickets, name children after them, put cardboard cutouts of them up at their own wedding, etc. Maybe the Brewers could work out some deal like that where other players offer to do (nonsexual) things for CC, like cook him a buffet-style dinner.
   12. karkface killah  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 08:45 PM (#2999146)
Did anyone listen to that Matt Berry-Bill Simmons piece on espn.com

Absolutely not. I actually quite enjoy most of Simmons' podcasts, but I cannot stand Berry. Talk about a guy that needs to go back to his mom's basement.
   13. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 08:52 PM (#2999158)
Forget Rick Peterson. I'm still trying to wrap my head around Nolan Ryan focusing on throwing strikes.
   14. Walt Davis  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 09:10 PM (#2999217)
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Nolan Ryan focusing on throwing strikes.

Hey now, the man threw a LOT of strikes.

Sure, OK, it took him until age 40 to figure out that it made sense to throw more strikes than balls, but he threw a lot of strikes.
   15. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 09:12 PM (#2999222)
Why do we need this story before the world series is even over?

its done now.

congrats phils.
   16. mrams  Posted: October 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM (#2999233)
If this is somewhat accurate, that's fine. Contrast this effort, to the door the Brewers showed Paul Molitor after '92.
   17. Benji  Posted: October 30, 2008 at 12:49 AM (#2999345)
Yeah, Rick "fool 'em with the outside changeup" Peterson was real concerned with throwing strikes. I got so tired of the friggin 3-1 counts. I hope he gets another job, though. Philly, Atlanta, Florida or Washington would suit me fine.

As for CC, I'd love to see him stay in Milwaukee. That would be great for baseball.
   18. Jason Kendall's #6,530,420,771 fan (AS)  Posted: October 30, 2008 at 02:53 AM (#2999369)
I'm confused, why would people think CC take _less_ money to stay in Milwaukee? It's not like he really put down roots there, he was there for 3 months due to a decision he had no input into, and he has constantly talked about how he prefers the West Coast.
   19. Frank Rook  Posted: October 30, 2008 at 06:51 AM (#2999418)
CC really enjoyed his time in Milwaukee, both in the clubhouse and being a part of the community. It sounds like the Brewers are willing to pay market value on the annual salary, just not willing to commit to the 6-7 years that premier FA get. CC will be turning down guaranteed money, but it's not like he won't have the ability to earn that money later down the road. Let's say that the Brewers offer a 4 year deal with a 5th year team option. CC will be a FA again when he's 33 and could sign another huge contract. I'm also not sure how constantly he has said that he would prefer the West Coast, or if that is something that has constantly been said about him.
   20. Calvin Schiraldi  Posted: October 30, 2008 at 08:21 AM (#2999473)
Fistfull of Popcorn is so naive it makes my brain hurt.
   21. Rafael Bellylard has become a Mets fan!  Posted: October 30, 2008 at 08:50 AM (#2999496)
Fistfull of Popcorn is so naive it makes my brain hurt.


Hopeful is more accurate.

CC could decide to stay in Milwaukee for a reduced salary. I don't think it's likely, but it's possible. Let's say he gets offered 4/100 with a option year at 30m with a 5m buyout. Even with the "hometown discount", so to speak, he's set for life with no less than $105,000,000.

Perhaps the Yankess offer more. A lot more, like 6/175. great, and how much are the first 4 years of that contract? Probably not much more than what Milwaukee is offering. But you also have to deal with the madness named Steinbrenner and the idiocy known as "the NY media". CC may decide it's not worth it.

Then again, he might.
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