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Rosenthal: Yanks join Brewers and others in pursuit of Cameron

Robo...heating up.

The Brewers face strong competition for free-agent center fielder Mike Cameron, perhaps stronger than they even imagined.

The Yankees are showing serious interest in Cameron, major-league sources say, figuring that they could trade center fielder Melky Cabrera even if they do not send him to the Twins for left-hander Johan Santana.

Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez is a supporter of Cameron’s; the two were teammates with the Mariners in 2000. Cameron also has recent experience playing in New York; he was with the Mets in ‘04 and ‘05.

Cabrera, 23, is part of the Yankees’ offer for Santana, but could fit for several teams that are in the market for a young, affordable, switch-hitting center fielder.

Repoz Posted: January 10, 2008 at 09:53 PM | 24 comment(s)
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1. Best Regards, Larry Mahnken Posted: January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM (#2665912)

I see it more likely that they'll trade Cabrera for relief help than trade him for Santana.

I'd rather see them just use Damon out there for a couple years than sign Cameron.

2. TFTIO Posted: January 10, 2008 at 10:15 PM (#2665920)

I wish TWINT would sign Cameron, personally. And trade for Bill Hall. And move Nathan. And resign Johan.

If wishes were horses, of course, beggars would ride.

3. SouthSideRyan Posted: January 10, 2008 at 10:50 PM (#2665936)

Somebody want to tell me what the Cubs want with Cabrera?

4. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: January 10, 2008 at 11:08 PM (#2665947)

Somebody want to tell me what the Cubs want with Cabrera?

He can play 2B in a pinch?

5. salfino Posted: January 10, 2008 at 11:09 PM (#2665949)

Cabrera gets zero respect. He has a pretty good major league resume for a guy who was 22 last year. Really, is being Sixto Lezcano that bad?

6. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: January 10, 2008 at 11:24 PM (#2665956)

Really, is being Sixto Lezcano that bad?

Not as good as being Septimo Leyton or Octavio Dotel.

7. John DiFool2 Posted: January 11, 2008 at 12:35 AM (#2665986)

Top 10 comps over at BBRef indicate someone who is about to retire, frankly, with the exception of Darrell Evans (WTH is he doing on Cameron's list anyway!?).

8. retro-shiite Posted: January 11, 2008 at 12:36 AM (#2665987)

There's nothing wrong with Cabrera; I just don't see how he's a good fit for the Cubs. And that goes triple for Cameron; why the hell would the Cubs have any interest in him? I mean, if he were willing to sign cheap for a year, then fine, but that's not going to happen.

9. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 11, 2008 at 12:38 AM (#2665990)

I wish TWINT would sign Cameron, personally. And trade for Bill Hall. And move Nathan. And resign Johan.

I've seen this several places here. What is TWINT?

10. GregD Posted: January 11, 2008 at 01:04 AM (#2666006)

Melky isn't really that comparable to Sixto; they have similar raw stats through the same age but the Melky's OPS+ is 90 and Sixto's was 108 through the same age.

11. TFTIO Posted: January 11, 2008 at 01:29 AM (#2666016)

TWINT is an in-joke name for the Twins that I picked up. It has a slightly distasteful sound to it, which is always a plus.

12. RichardMNixon Posted: January 11, 2008 at 07:19 AM (#2666064)

TWINT = very funny

13. Dan Turkenkopf Posted: January 11, 2008 at 08:32 AM (#2666075)

Melky isn't really that comparable to Sixto; they have similar raw stats through the same age but the Melky's OPS+ is 90 and Sixto's was 108 through the same age.

Using park/era adjusted sim scores (still counting stat based), I have Melky's most similar player at 23 as Jimmy Wolf, an OF from the 1880's, but second is Johnny Damon and Carlos Beltran is number 7.

I think age-based sim scores (no matter which ones you use) may overrate Cabrera somewhat just because the players who are in the majors at 22-23 tend to be the really good ones. I don't think Cabrera will every be really good (never All-Star level), but I think he could easily be a league average CF. I'd rather the Yankees keep him then trade him for bullpen help and sign Cameron.

14. snapper Posted: January 11, 2008 at 10:48 AM (#2666179)

Is Cameron still an elite defender in CF? Dial had him as +9/150 in 2006. Has anyone seen the 2007 #'s.

Thanks.

15. Confined to the Halls of Congers (formerly Y...) Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:00 AM (#2666199)

Orioles and Yankees should do a Cabrera for Cabrera trade (only half joking).

16. Valentine Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:04 AM (#2666201)

Cameron makes the most sense for the Brewers. Put Hall back on the infield where he is a defensive asset, move Braun to left field where he can't do as much damage. (Could be pretty good there, as he has speed.)

Unless, of course, the Yankees are planning to trade Cabrera in a deal for Santana...

17. snapper Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:20 AM (#2666217)

Unless, of course, the Yankees are planning to trade Cabrera in a deal for Santana...

Well, if Cameron is still an elite defender, and relatively cheap b/c of the suspension/Mitchell report, then it could be a good move for the Yanks.

Damon can play CF the 1st 25 games, and Cabrera is a great chip to get Pitching help

18. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:22 AM (#2666220)

TWINT = very funny

Are you saying the guy from 10 Items of Less is lying to me?

19. JC in DC Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:26 AM (#2666222)

Well, if Cameron is still an elite defender, and relatively cheap b/c of the suspension/Mitchell report, then it could be a good move for the Yanks.

Damon can play CF the 1st 25 games, and Cabrera is a great chip to get Pitching help

Why not save the dough (and pick?) and trade Cabrera and use Damon/Gardner?

20. snapper Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM (#2666223)

Why not save the dough (and pick?) and trade Cabrera and use Damon/Gardner?

Is Cameron a type A FA?

Edit: Just checked, cameron is a B. No pick lost.

It depends on D I think. If Cameron is +5 or more, him in CF and Damon in LF give the Yanks a nice defensive OF.

Now if they could only trade Matsui. He's probably worth too much in marketing revenue, though.

21. radioman Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM (#2666236)

Now if they could only trade Matsui. He's probably worth too much in marketing revenue, though.

That and his no trade clause.

22. snapper Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:49 AM (#2666248)

That and his no trade clause.

I would assume he wants to play every day, which he won't in NY, to maintain value for the next contract.

If Seattle trades Adam Jones, I think that would be an interesting destination. They have some good RP's. They also have a clear interest in the Japanese market.

23. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F) Posted: January 11, 2008 at 11:56 AM (#2666253)

I've seen this several places here. What is TWINT?

The Twins taint?

24. Cris E Posted: January 11, 2008 at 12:52 PM (#2666302)

I hope the CF market heating up gets the Twins rolling on the Santana front. They really do need a real CF beyond Pridie, and if they don't end up with a ready to start option in the trade they need to know that before Patterson and Lofton and Cameron and everyone else is signed. (Or perhaps that's Punto's 08 role: he's played out there before for Gardy...)

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