How does someone not get fired for that?

Then later in the interview, one of the show’s hosts made crude innuendos about Jamie and Ashley, urging his interviewer to “try and get them to kiss.”

Is there nothing too low for Roger Clemens?

How does someone not get fired for that?

Ah, what's the use. If they're popular, they'll get rehired, possibly even by the same station.

The live version of "Don't Worry Kyoko, Mummy's Only Looking For Her Hand in the Snow" almost made me lose my man love for John Lennon.

That Dallas show sounds like a real yuck-fest.

It sounds like she is a stupid ####, but the radio host is a stupid ####, too.

I wish I didn't know who Yoko Ono is.

Yoko's day in the sun was when I was a tyke. Why should someone in their early 20's know who she was?

Stay classy, Dallas sports talk show.

If they're popular, they'll get rehired, possibly even by the same station.

Like the Regular Guys here in Atlanta. A little racism, a lot of sexism, and not much humor, yet they've been on at least 3 different stations in the last 5 years.

Any defense attorney that couldn't get Alex Gordon acquitted for punching this guy in the face should be disbarred. Maybe not if he punches him twice, but certainly if he only punches him once.

Like the Regular Guys here in Atlanta. A little racism, a lot of sexism, and not much humor, yet they've been on at least 3 different stations in the last 5 years.

I was thinking of a couple of guys here in Chicago who were canned for repeating unspeakably vile (and untrue) rumors about a TV person. They were re-hired [edit: by the same station] a few years later, all apparently forgiven.

Why should someone in their early 20's know who she was?

Someone who isn't interested in pop music can be any age and not know who she is.

As much as we (rightfully) get down on intellectual and emotional elitism in various threads on this site, there is a large bell curve of mouth-breathers who simply find this crap hilarious. It would be great if there was a greater volume of journalism that would use their place to influence and enlighten rather than demean and demoralize the masses.

I'd suggest not holding your breath on that, however.

Yoko's day in the sun was when I was a tyke. Why should someone in their early 20's know who she was?

The boo-birds were out for Yoko's appearance at Pitchfork Fest last summer.

Any defense attorney that couldn't get Alex Gordon acquitted for punching this guy in the face should be disbarred. Maybe not if he punches him twice, but certainly if he only punches him once.

The real trick would be winning the civil suit.

Surely the reference is to the Child Molesters' B-side cover (on the priciest record I've ever sold, as it happens) of the Yoko song.

Surely.

References to Yoko Ono are unavoidable, even for those of us who don't give a fig about pop music and were born in the '80s. Unless you were raised by wolves or are so stupid the thousands of references you've heard haven't registered, it's not possible to make it to adulthood without knowing who she is.

Sure it is possible. Some people don't immerse themselves in pop culture.

Some of us are mocking someone for not knowing who Yoko Ono is, and then we are willing to spend half our time discussing baseball?

People who were born in the '80s have parents. Parents who were born decades before they were and know who Yoko Ono is, and who have siblings and friends, also born in previous decades, with whom they converse in front of their children. You don't need to be immersed in popular culture to know who incredibly famous people are.

I only became aware of who Yoko Ono is within the past year or two. I'd heard the name before, but had never given a rat's ass. Still don't.

I'm going to withhold judgment on this until I hear from the Morning Gorilla and the Lesbian Midget Twins.

Be nice to see the station get its media credentials pulled, though I doubt it'd ever happen.

I only recently found out the difference between Ella Fitzgerald and Zelda Fitzgerald

(FYI: the difference is Zelda was hot!)

It's not like Yoko Ono is regularly in the gossip or entertainment press. And none of her actual music has ever been on the radio. The last time I remember a lot of publicity about her in the mainstream media was when she collaborated with Sean Lennon on that album of new material back in 1995 or so. (although she does get mentioned in specialized music and art media frequently)

Maybe if that movie starring Jared Leto and Lindsay Lohan hadn't been a complete failure that was dumped by the studio with zero publicity, Yoko Ono would be more well-known among today's young people.

It's not like being unfamiliar with Demi Moore or something. It's more like being unfamiliar with Captain Beefheart. Who cares?

But surely she'd have heard the Barenaked Ladies 1992 classic "Be My Yoko Ono"!

Unless you were raised by wolves or are so stupid the thousands of references you've heard haven't registered, it's not possible to make it to adulthood without knowing who she is.

I'm sure everyone's heard her name, but that doesn't mean they know anything about her. She's hardly important in a historical or cultural way. There's only one thing she did (or rather, one guy she [forgot]) that keeps her from absolute anonymity. Now, not knowing who John Lennon is, who actually had historical significance and producing things of cultural significance -- that would be notable.

"It's more like being unfamiliar with Captain Beefheart. Who cares?"

One important distinction: Captain Beefheart is good.

Greg has a point. I asked our 25 year old receptionist (who's never heard of a bunch of stuff like "Hogan's Heroes") if she knew who Yoko was.

"Are you kidding?" she replied "You'd have to live under a rock to not know who she is." However, she is a BNL fan.

Shiitdoggies...Back in 1975 I knew who Anna Maria Alberghetti and Helen Grayco were!

And Joba had no idea who Jimi Hendrix was. Some people just don't give a #### about music. My cousin is 27 and has lived in Chicago all his life and I had to explain who Frank Thomas was. Some people don't give a #### about sports. It's okay, it doesn't make them bad people.

Anna Maria Alberghetti

I recognize that name from some Christmas album that my mom had. Helen Grayco was the Sophia Coppola of her era.

I'm in Austin, but I still listen to the KTCK podcasts every day. They do this every year at Spring Training and dozens of other places. The drop cannot be heard by the person that they're talking to. If you listened to the interview, he's very nice, and they later apologized when it became an issue.

A lot of people, athletes included, find their schtick funny as hell. Shaq got interviewed about 8 years ago by the same guy who was the interviewer in this, and he loves him so much that every time Shaq comes to Dallas, he insists that this guy is the only one who he'll talk to one-on-one.

As much as we (rightfully) get down on intellectual and emotional elitism in various threads on this site, there is a large bell curve of mouth-breathers who simply find this crap hilarious.

Taken out of context, yes this sounds stupid. And it is. I didn't laugh at the drops, but I did laugh at the questions and her answers. But I generally find the station funny and always have. For better or worse, it's one of the most influential sports talk stations around (their former PD moved on to ESPN Radio, for example), driving towards the "guy talk" instead of 100% sports. They act like what they are, which is kind of sophomoric. (One thing they do once or twice a year is call someone in customer service and play tons of fart drops in the background, to see if they can get the CSR to stumble or ask what's going on. Stupid? Yes. Funny? Sadly, it's hilarious.) I don't think enjoying some sophomoric humor every now and again makes me a "mouth-breather".

Anna Maria Alberghetti

"cut glass cruet"

A friend of mine used to have a pick-up line in college where he would go around and ask girls if they knew who Alan Greenspan was (this was back during Clinton), or in 1996, who Bob Dole's running mate was (quick, guess!). A surprising number (all in college) had no idea.*

We also had a friend who didn't know what the Cold War was. Again, she was in college, at a fairly good state school in a BCS conference.

These are the kind of things you can call people stupid for (#### is never appropriate). Not knowing who Yoko Ono is is kind of weird, and I think I would have a difficult time having a conversation with Mrs. Gordon, but not an indication of intelligence level.

*It just happened to be women because that's just where the pick-up lines were directed. If I had bothered talking to the stupid guys, I'm sure the level of knowledge would have been similar.

We also had a friend who didn't know what the Cold War was. Again, she was in college, at a fairly good state school in a BCS conference.

Right, like the girl in my dorm who didn't know what country the Taliban controlled only three weeks after 9/11 (at a very good university) - that's stupid.

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand #34. How is "Do you know who Alan Greenspan is?" a pickup line? Where do you go with that?

We have a thing about calling each other at work and using fake names if someone else picks up. The receptionist here gets calls from Elliot Spitzer (prescandal), Tim Wakefield, and Bruce Altman, to name a few. But I once called my buddy at a jewelry store and identified myself as Colin Powell. The call was put through.

Okay, so they're proud that they're sophomoric. That's cool, but then they shouldn't get upset if Gordon kicks the guy's ass. Because that is something that sophmoric people do, too.

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand #34. How is "Do you know who Alan Greenspan is?" a pickup line? Where do you go with that?

I'm guessing he could follow up with some irrational exuberance.

"I'm sorry, I don't quite understand #34. How is "Do you know who Alan Greenspan is?" a pickup line? Where do you go with that?"

"Are you familiar with the concept of inflation?"

Read Neil Strauss's book, "The Game". It's all about opening up conversation, no matter how inane the topic. (And then invoking emotion. Not sure how Greenspan helps there.)

I'd heard the name before, but had never given a rat's ass. Still don't.
You should. Or at least know enough to run if you hear someone say, "I'm going to play a little Yoko Ono for you now."

who Bob Dole's running mate was (quick, guess!).

Jack Kemp.

It's all about opening up conversation, no matter how inane the topic. (And then invoking emotion. Not sure how Greenspan helps there.)

Inane indeed. Mentioning Greenspan seems to be about as good a tactic as, "My cat's breath smells like catfood."

I don't get why some idiots from a sports station think it's important for someone to know who Yoko Ono is. How did that even come up, and why does that matter to anyone, especially guys who listen to sports radio?

Heck I'm a child of the 70's and the only thing I know about Yoko Ono is she broke up an overrated, overplayed music group that wasn't as good as the Doors. :)

I couldn't name 5 people from all the American Idol shows, yet someone would consider people who don't know American Idol contestants to be pop culturally ignorant. I would hazard a guess that most people on this web site couldn't name ten without looking up. (you have Daughtry, stupid country bimbo, fat black guy, old lounge singer, some girl that has a ton of albums but I can't remember her name right now, the bad asian singer----umm any others?)

My fifteen year old daughter knows who Yoko Ono is because she watched The Beatles Anthology with me. Otherwise, I doubt she would know anything about Yoko Ono.

This pop culture gap works both ways. Many of the actors, pop stars, models, etc. who are mentioned regularly here are unknown to me. I don't read the entertainment papers and I haven't watched network TV much in a couple of decades. I found out about the likes of Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, J-Lo, Soup Nazis, and Admiral Whats-His-Nuts (It's a trap!) from seeing their names mentioned here and looking them up. Just now I had to look up Barenaked Ladies (#25). So you won't catch me knocking the youngsters because they don't know about Jimi Hendrix or Yoko Ono.

Most of what I know about current pop culture is gleaned from magaizne and tabloid covers as I wait in checkout lines. Had I a gf or wife, she'd probably keep me more informed, but this is the best that I can do. However, I can drop names from around 1980 like nobody's business. They offered Farrah Fawcett Majors at my college of pop culture knowledge.

you have Daughtry, stupid country bimbo, fat black guy, old lounge singer, some girl that has a ton of albums but I can't remember her name right now, the bad asian singer-
---umm any others?)

How can you forget the scrawny gay kid and the creepy gray-haired guy. You must be stupid.

How can you forget the scrawny gay kid and the creepy gray-haired guy. You must be stupid.

What about guy who hooked up with Paula Abdul? Or is he already covered under an alias?

Yoko Ono broke up Fleetwood Mac?

Don't forget the black woman!

And then there's the gay kid with the stupid hair who lost to the creepy gray-haired guy.

I'm always confused to hell by that show TMZ. It comes on after Stephen Colbert so I usually see the first couple minutes. They appear to be making fun of "celebrities" but so far I haven't recognized a single one.

I'm sure it takes just as much dedication as being aware of all the different ball players in MLB, but seems less satisfying. Where's the EQA that can determine who's had the better year between Lindsay Lohan and the daughter of the achy-breaky heart guy?

There's also the puny little wimp who lost to the fat black guy, and the guy that was a shoplifter.

How can you forget the scrawny gay kid and the creepy gray-haired guy. You must be stupid.

I don't know who the scrawny gay kid is, but I thought creepy gray-haired guy = old lounge singer.

There is a big difference between being surprised someone hasn't heard of someone you consider culturally relevant and to think they are STUPID for not being familiar with them.

I recall talking to a 17 year old a couple of years ago and finding out that he had never heard of Phil Collins, Genesis or Peter Gabriel. I was surprised but that didn't make him an idiot.

Wasn't there a tall black guy that always sung Otis Redding over and over?

I can actually name another one, stupid country bimbo = Kellie Pickler... I still can't remember any of the other names. ---oh wait---reuben something is the fat black guy. Stoddard?

the puny little wimp who lost to the fat black guy

I believe that was the same as "the scrawny gay kid". Although there's been about six more scrawny gay kids since then, the only memorable one was the one with the stupid hair.

Also, the creepy gray-haired guy wasn't actually old. Which is why it's creepy that his hair was gray.

Finally, the current season has given us the dumb stoner guy, if nothing else.

just becuse BTF is sadly lacking in Gilmore Girls references....


"It's just like those idiots who don't know Kim Deal was the bassist for the Pixies before the Breeders"

but I thought creepy gray-haired guy = old lounge singer.

Yes, you're probably right. I think he did car commercials at some point.

I can actually name another one, stupid country bimbo = Kellie Pickler... I still can't remember any of the other names. ---oh wait---reuben something is the fat black guy. Stoddard?

I thought Tim Stoddard was coaching at Northwestern?

My 17 year old cousin doesn't know who Angus Young is.

My 17 year old cousin doesn't know who Angus Young is.

Is that the guy from AC/DC? I confess I had to think about that one for a second.

It depresses me when I realise that kids born in 1990 are about to graduate from high school.

My sister-in-law put Steven Cocojaru in her dead pool. All I could say was, "Speaking for all straight white men, who in hell is Steven Cocojaru?"

My 17 year old cousin doesn't know who Angus Young is

tell him he's responsible for those Hardee burgers.


In St Louis that is a crime, we have only two rock stations, one is an alternative station and one that hasn't changed it's rotation since 1985. St Louisans who listen to any rock either have an alternative station (that is more just current rock---only difference between 80's hairband music and alternative is the number of times they wash their hair in a week) and K-She which insists that every three hours they have to play Boston(? I have no clue), AC-DC, Pink FLoyd, Aerosmith, something with Sammy Hagar, and Rush. You can't grow up in St Louis without having some type of feelings for these bands.

who in hell is Steven Cocojaru?

Good question. Even Google is unhelpful.

It depresses me when I realise that kids born in 1990 are about to graduate from high school.

I have a kid at work who's dad joined the Marine Corps after Desert Storm, and he was born after his dad got out, I found this out one day while mentioning the fact that I was in the Marines in 1989. Man I felt old.

My 17 year old cousin doesn't know who Angus Young is.

I had to google him, the only thing I like that came from AC/DC is the drinking game Thunderstruck (drink every time they say "thunder"). One of my college roommates loved them though.

Select List of People My 24-Year Old Sister Has Never Heard Of

1. George Peppard
2. Chevy Chase
3. Ted Danson
4. Taylor Dayne
5. Tommy LaSorda (a delicious shake for breakfast, one for lunch, and a sensible dinner!)
6. Bronson Pinchot

All I could say was, "Speaking for all straight white men, who in hell is Steven Cocojaru?"

You must have some idea of who he is, if you coul accurately identify "straight white men" as people who are most likely to be unfamiliar with him.

Google is unhelpful because it's actually "Cojocaru", btw.

Google is unhelpful because it's actually "Cojocaru", btw.

thats a scary pic of him on wiki.

The best drinking song game is clearly the Roxanne/Red Light one to go along with "Roxanne"

Has all the fun of teams and drinking and...
well I guess that's it

Jerry Rude: How are you doing, Mr. Burns? Jerry Rude. Welcome to the show.

Montgomery Burns: I'm pleased to--

Rude: Alright, let's get this geezer out quick so we can bring in the lesbian gladiators.

Burns: Now, Mr. Rude, I just want you to know I'm a good sport, so if you want to make fun of my legendary love of cashews, you have at it!

Rude: Uh-huh... Alright, how many times a day do you go to the can?

Burns: Oh, about 40, I suppose. When are we going on the air?

Rude: We're on the air now, Skeletor.

Burns: What?!

Rude: Question two: How long is your wiener, seriously?

Burns: Great heavens! What kind of radio show is this?

Rude: How about this -- when was your first gay experience?

Burns: Oh, well, when I was six, my father took me on a picnic. That was a gay old time! Oh-ho, I ate my share of wieners that day.

Rude: Oh, that sounds lovely. [coughs "queer"] Um, ever murder anybody?

Burns: Murder? Well, mistakes have been made.

Rude: Monty, I've heard you're a pretty flatulent guy. Any comment on that?

Burns: Oh, now see here--[Rude presses a button making fart noises] Stop that! Attention wireless listeners, most of the sounds you are now hearing are not being made by me! Oh stop! Stop! Won't someone please stop the farting! [collapses on the floor]

Rude: Don't worry, folks, he's not dead. I still hear some faint sounds of life. [makes fart noises]

What's really weird to me is people who know George Peppard from Breakfast at Tiffany's, but are too young to have seen him on A-Team.

Is it weird that I always think of Peppard as Banacek?

Is it weird that I always think of Peppard as Banacek?

doesn't that just mean you are old? :)

Yeah, cfb. I'm 40 and Banacek was before my time. It sounds like an interesting show, but I can't get the DVDs from Blockbuster yet.

Select List of People My 24-Year Old Sister Has Never Heard Of

6. Bronson Pinchot

Don't be ridiculous.

Not really...I'm slightly too young to remember the A-Team (25)
My brother is 3 years older than me and he wached it

I just stayed home from school a lot and watched A&E;and watched 70s detective shows a lot

I love Columbo and the Rockford Files the most...McMillan and Wife was kind of lame. I never got why all the ladies always loved Banacek. For the longest time I thought there was a stereotype about women loving Polish men

Some of my best friends in the world are huge P1s. I cannot stand the Ticket, however.

Things I learned from this thread:
1) Kim Deal was the bassist for the Pixies before the Breeders.
2) People actually do dead pools.
3) I know a hella lot about American Idol, mostly through osmosis (thanks to my soon-to-be ex).
4) I need to find a copy of "The Game" and read it (see note #3).

Had I a gf or wife, she'd probably keep me more informed, but this is the best that I can do.

Why, if you had one of those, she might have directed you to record Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt on The Tyra Banks Show. You're really missing out.

Cojocaru

At first, I thought someone was doing a bad job of channeling Donovan singing "Goo goo, goo goo, Barabajagal".
What, you've never heard of Donovan? Wow, how stupid are you?

For the longest time I thought there was a stereotype about women loving Polish men

Lech Walesa is just dripping with Kavorka.

What, you've never heard of Donovan? Wow, how stupid are you?

The only reason I've heard of him honestly, is that Donovon Osborne was named after him, and I heard that on a telecast one day.

Smithers: Here are several fine young men who I'm sure are going to go far. Ladies and gentlemen, the Ramones.
Mr. Burns: Ah, these minstrels will soothe my jangled nerves.
Joey Ramone: I'd just like to say this gig sucks!
Johnny Ramone: Hey, up yours, Springfield!
Joey Ramone: One, two, three, four!
[the Ramones start playing a tune and singing "Happy Birthday"]
Joey Ramone: Happy birthday to you!
Johnny Ramone, Christopher Ward: Happy birthday!
Joey Ramone: Happy birthday to you!
Johnny Ramone, Christopher Ward: Happy birthday!
Joey Ramone: Happy birthday, Burnsey! Happy birthday...
Joey Ramone, Johnny Ramone, Christopher Ward: ...to you!
Christopher Ward: Go to hell, you old bastard!
Marky Ramone: Hey, I think they liked us.
Mr. Burns: Have the Rolling Stones killed.
Smithers: But sir, those aren't the...
Mr. Burns: Do as I say!

I would guess that a lot more people in their 20s have heard of Donovan than Donovan Osborne. But fewer than have heard of Donovan McNabb.

I'd seen Breakfast at Tiffany's about five times before ever seeing an episode of The A-Team. I have now seen one episode of The A-Team. For an erudite and effete fop, he was more effective in The A-Team than I had expected.

Finally, I have never in my life even heard of Banacek until this thread, have occasionally heard my parents talk about The Rockford Files, and only know about McMillan and Wife from its being mentioned on an early episode of Family Guy.

If you need to know my age...well, I have memories of watching Night Court, but at the same time was never aware of My Two Dads.

Banacek does make a quickie appearance in a Simpsons Hallowe'en episode, in Bart's incantation to send the zombies back to their graves

I'd seen Breakfast at Tiffany's about five times before ever seeing an episode of The A-Team. I have now seen one episode of The A-Team. For an erudite and effete fop, he was more effective in The A-Team than I had expected.

Wrong. For rough and ready Hannibal Smith, he was more effective as an erudite and effete fop than I expected.

Well, anyway, I hope we can all reach agreement on our admiration for Raging Bull. Especially that epochal mini-golf scene.

That would be a fun game (had I not already said my age twice in this thread)

Guessing people's ages based on how they respond to a few selected pop culture references

I think I'm the only person on earth who thinks the Academy made the right choice in 1980

Ordinary People is one of my favourite movies ever
Of course, I am world renowned for having inexplicable taste in movies

I watched some Columbo recently. It didn't seem to age well. The Rockford Files seems to have held up a bit more.

People actually do dead pools.

I did one every year for a while in the late '80s/early '90s. Almost won in 1990 - had two people on my list (Barbara Stanwyck and Ava Gardner) die in January, then didn't have another one all year.

-- MWE

Banacek and McMillan were meh, IIRC. The big thing about McMillan was that the big movie star, Rock Hudson, was doing TV. It's amazing how the perception of him was going change in a few years. Of all the silly rumors that I heard as a kid, the silliest one was that Hudson and Jim Nabors (Gomer Pyle) got married. Turns out that they were good, platonic friends in real life but at the time, the idea that Hudson was gay was what made the urban legend so absurd. Especially with all those movies with him chasing the professional virgin, Doris Day. Those movies are just so rich in hindsight.

Rockford was great, just a notch below Columbo. Worth catching if it happens to come on.

Is it weird that I always think of Peppard as Banacek?

Big George peaked on Banacek. That shot of him rowing during the credits was awesome. And now I work in the insurance industry!

I'm always confused to hell by that show TMZ.

They had a segment once called "Rocket Man Launches Anger!!" or something like that, which featured Neil Armstrong being filmed leaving dinner with his wife. He kept saying "Why are you filming me?" but it was about 98% confusion and 2% anger, but TMZ kept insisting he was FURIOUS!!!!111. Very strange.

George Peppard was in Breakfast at Tiffany's? I had no idea, I have always thought of him from Tobruk, which they showed on BBC2 at like, 3:00 AM once.

Of course, the sum of my Breakfast at Tiffany's knowledge comes from watching Gossip Girl, but I'm coming up to that part of the Capote biography I'm reading, so perhaps that will help.

Weird....Tobruk, Gossip Girl and a Capote biography

I'd have to take a stab at....28?

Oh, and Columbo is still brilliant, GGC must out of his mind.

I'd have to take a stab at....28?

Just a shade high. 24.