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No. Their songs are longer than 2:30.
But I would have mentioned something about a donation from the J. Paul Geddy Foundation.
Edit: oops - it was was Warren Cromartie Secondary School.
Geddy Lee - Bass guitars, synthesizers, vocals, Pitcher
Alex Lifeson - Electric and acoustic guitars, Taurus pedals, First Base
Neil Peart - Drums and percussion, Third Base
Back on topic, this is a wonderful thing for Lee to do.
Well, maybe because the person that wrote the article writes for the entertainment section rather than the sports section.
This is one of those cool things you think about sometime, "If I had a bunch of cash, who would I donate to, and what would I give then..."
Obviously if I had the cash I would buy an O.J. Mayo for Kansas State, but you know I was really thinking of something more humanitarian, this donation would be right up there.
I've been a baseball fan for years. I don't have a collection of 200 baseballs signed by Negro Leaguers to give to the Negro League Museum, and if I did, I might keep them for myself.
And nice work as fact-checking cuz, Vortex.
Alex Lifeson - Electric and acoustic guitars, Taurus pedals, First Base
, Traffic Cop.
Charter are you done with junior high for the summer, or did school just let out?
Assuming you have ears & a brain, I think that's a pretty safe assumption on your part.
Dimino is a big fan, as are some other Primates. "Subdivisions" rocked. I think it was in some odd time signature too. Something like 13/16, but I may be thinking of a Genesis song.
They do a nice cover of Crossroads
Are these things mutually exclusive?
Many of their songs are written in a non-traditional time signature.
13/8 is the verses in Genesis' "Turn It On Again."
"Subdivisions," which resembles "Turn It On Again" in many ways, does go into some odd time signature during parts of the chorus and instrumental interludes (I'm counting 12/8 listening to the chorus) while the verses shift between standard 4/4 and 7/8. Rush does like time and tempo changes even in many of their shorter numbers. Both songs have a similar synth-heavy sound, change time signatures a lot and nonetheless have enough pop hooks that to get airplay on classic rock stations. ("Turn It On Again" is currently being used in a GMC Truck commercial.)
Hehe. Only if someone brings up politics or steroids. I don't think the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, or basketball could get us there.
I can't dance, I can't talk.
The only thing about me is the way I walk.
I can't dance, I can't sing
I'm just standing here selling everything.
Of course, they weren't a prog rock band by that time.
No doubt. A very good example of Math Rock.
In the end, it was the best they could. Circumstances required them to treat this with kid gloves, so afterimage of the limelight of some working men finding their way through the camera eye didn't end up face up in Xanadu under the trees.
I love Rush and Geddy is a great bassist. Hell, I even play a Geddy Lee signature Fender Jazz Bass.
To say he's the best ever is a stretch, though. Listen to Jaco Pastorius, James Jamerson, or even Flea. Sting is probably better. My favorite, though, may be Paul McCartney because so much of what he brought was revolutionary at the time (and now commonplace).
Again, this isn't to say that Geddy is bad. He's among the top, but not #1.
Always a fan, saw them play in 1989 for 5 bucks, but Flea isn't even in the top 10 IMO.
Smokiest damn place I've ever been in my life. Probably what a house fire is like.
Still have affection for the band and my nerdy teenage self who was once a fan.
Spirit of Radio
By the way, John Entwistle is the best rock bassist ever. Let's ignore jazz bassists...that's a whole 'nother beast.
Actually, in their synth phase, from Permanent Waves through Presto, they were a pretty good band, with a melodic sensibility that doesn't show itself in their other incarnations, and they really reigned in the excesses. Their albums weren't the most consistent, but you can put together a good 80-minute CD of highlights from that period. I wouldn't call it prog, though.
Can't disagree on any of that, although I think Crimson's In the Court of Crimson King is every bit as good as claimed, and I still think Starless and Bible Black is their best album. I also think Relayer is my favorite Yes album, mainly for "The Gates of Delirium", which is an absolute sonic knockout. Selling England is the prog album, though, hands down. I'd also throw Camel in there, although their albums were inconsistent as hell. There aren't many better prog tracks than "A Song Within a Song" from A Live Record, which kills the studio version...
Best rock bassists:
1. Peter Hook (Joy Division/New Order)
2. Paul McCartney
3. John Entwistle
4. Tony Butler (Big Country)
5. Chris Squire (Yes)
1) his favorite sport;
2) his choice of beer; and
3) how he feels about Rush.
Not sayin' there are any right or wrong answers. Just sayin' that, if you know that stuff about someone, you can pretty much figure out most other things worth knowing.
Keeping in mind that I know nothing about music theory (I have no idea what people are talking about with the ratios above), my understanding is that Rush adapts (or attempts to adapt) to popular music. So the were Zeppelin-esque when they started, then moved to prog rock, then to synth in the 80's. Did they try to incorporate grunge in the 90's? I didn't like grunge and I didn't like 90's Rush either.
IOW, you can't really say that they don't fit into certain categories without discussing which time frame you're talking about. And it's not surprising to think that they were good in one era but not like them in another.
How odd -- till now, I've never realized that "Geddy Lee" is apparently the English translation of "Jean-Jacques Burnel" (Stranglers bassist).
1. Baseball
2. Don't drink beer
3. Love Rush up through Roll the Bones
What can you tell me?
1) baseball.
2) couldn't stand it even back when I could (& did) drink.
3) one of those hideous bands that helped make punk necessary.
Obviously everyone here is going to answer baseball. I probably should have changed "beer" to "choice of alcoholic beverage" because that probably tells you more. That said:
Greg is conflicted: His love of baseball and Rush is consistent with a somewhat Canadian mindset (Canadians are hockey people, but they love their baseball), but his aversion to beer would likely keep him barred from the country.
Let me guess: you're from Port Huron, Michigan, and you gaze longingly across the Blue Water Bridge, wishing you'd be accepted in your spiritual home?
I suppose that if they were around back in the '50s, they would have incorporated the Bo Diddley Beat on those songs. I don't recall a grunge phase, but there's a rap on "Roll The Bones".
You're the bizarro Repoz from the straightedge universe?
1. Peter Hook (Joy Division/New Order)
2. Paul McCartney
3. John Entwistle
4. Tony Butler (Big Country)
5. Chris Squire (Yes)
I don't know what your definition of "rock" is, but James Jamerson is in the R&R;Hall of Fame (so I guess he counts) and is to the bass what Babe Ruth is to the Louisville Slugger. McCartney is a very underrated, according to Lennon when he was not generous in his praise of Paul.
Tommy The Cat. And, yes, that's Waits on guest vocals.
No. Rush was never "Prog." But Prog people tend to like them, which is where the confusion comes in. Plus their lyrics are suitably dense and pass for some sort of deep thinking if you're stoned enough (I guess).
ah, beat me to it mungo
Speaking of whom (sort of), a couple of nights ago I watched Control & was quite impressed, though probably the fact that Joy Division is one of my favorite bands ever biased me in the film's favor anyway. Anyone else seen it?
Smokiest damn place I've ever been in my life. Probably what a house fire is like.
Still have affection for the band and my nerdy teenage self who was once a fan.
I could have made exactly the same post. You weren't at the New Haven Coliseum in December 1982, were you?
I can vividly remember listenting to my brother's tape of Exit...Stage Left and replaying YYZ a dozen times in a row. They started to lose me after Presto.
1) Baseball
2) Guiness
3) Love 'em
Agree completely. And while I think McCartney's underrated, he's not really in the top 5 in terms of bass playing alone. He's excellent, but Tony Levin's got to be there, I like the Hook pick, as I said in the Lounge, Mark King (Level 42) is very underrated, I think Flea is overrated, I'd rank Les Claypool above him, and you gotta have space for Jack Bruce, no?
The Ox shortly before the Rock Star Diet (coke, whores, and red wine) did him in.
Check out the video on youtube of les playing master of puppets on bass.
totally agree. I can't thik of another bassist who completely carried his band's sound without calling any attention to himself.
heh. i did. that's where i saw the story of the Metallica audition for the 1st time. supposedly that's the song Les chose to audition with. me? i'd like to hear his interpretation of "Orion". damn pity the bus didn't take Lars.
i'll second that. to listen to live cream is to appreciate just how much of cream's sound was bruce and baker and how often bruce's bass had the lead ... and how often they were dragging clapton's sorry ass around.
is eric clapton the don sutton of hall-of-fame guitarists? undeniably good, but only occasionally great? that's probably selling him somewhat short, but i don't know if there's another supposed "pantheon" guitarist who bores me with anything approaching the same consistency
Shoulda put it in quotes.
I've got no use for Rush. Even as a mopey teenager.
2) his choice of beer; and
3) how he feels about Rush.
1) Duh.
2) Like to vary but if I had to choose one it would be a Black and Tan. Guiness by itself is too thick.
3) I was phasing out of my "Prog Rock"/mainstream Classic Rock days when Rush came on the scene. They were critically acclaimed but I never heard enough to know if I would really like them or not. So I never bought anything; in fact, I can not tell you the name of 1 Rush song or album. Just this morning I heard an ad on the radio about the super-phenomenal, life-changing event that will be an up-coming Rush concert. They were playing some song in the background, and once the
caterwaulingsinging started, I realized why I never listened to them.EDIT: It is a pretty cool thing that Geddy Lee did.
Jesus H. Whatever. What a horrible horrible argument. And what about his stint in the Yardbirds?
Entwistle is great, no question about it. So is John Paul Jones, for that matter.
If someone had told me that Bernard Sumner was the worst guitar player ever in a great band then I might agree.
2) The signature beverage of Arthur Guiness Son & Co
3) Never cared for Rush, much as my younger brother (incidentally, the biggest Beatles fan I ever met, though he was only 8 when "Abbey Road" came out) tried to get me to listen to them
Amen re: Jack Bruce, terrific musician. Also, Jack Casady was a very well-regarded bassist back in the old days.
I don't see what being a mopey teenager has to do with Rush.
2. Newcastle
3. Like Rush a lot, but could do without hearing Spirit of the Radio ever again.
I don't see what being a mopey teenager has to do with Rush.
Exactly, mopey teenagers should be listening to Joy Division.
And what about his stint in the Yardbirds?
Sonny Boy Williamson summed it up nicely:
"Those English kids," Williamson famously said of the Yardbirds and other British blues groups like the Animals and the Stones, "want to play the blues so bad—and they play the blues so bad"
1) his favorite sport;
2) his choice of beer; and
3) how he feels about Rush.
You can definitely tell if he's Canadian.
My thought echoes Esoteric - Clapton has been coasting since about 1972. Give me Richard Thompson any day.
I agree but what an early peak. Granted he had some help (Bruce, Baker, Winwood, D. Allman just for starters).
It's music that's almost custom-made for mopey teenagers who hate dance music. And I say this as someone who still likes them, even in his 30s. I played drums and grew up in New England in the 80s; that combination pretty much meant you were a Rush/Peart fan.
Rush would definitely adapt their sound some to rock music trends, though it didn't seem crass commercialism so much as it did an attempt to stay out of the creative ruts they would otherwise be more prone to falling into.
Their first album, recorded without Neil Peart, is mostly unremarkable faux Led Zep. Their straightforward attempts to be a more rocking version of an art/prog band mostly haven't aged especially well despite the technical skill on display and the presence of some terrific instrumental passages. (The instrumental "La Villa Strangiato" is pretty awesome start to finish.)
I still stand by Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures, when their songwriting got much better, as high-quality throughout and their other '80s albums as containing some great songs.
And they can flat out play, live or in the studio.
Agreed. Post Patti Boyd, he has absolutely nothing to say. He's a great technician on the guitar. Makes a nice sound. But the songs? Very few and very, very far between.
Didn't he play guitar on Wah Wah? That's a pretty damn underrated riff, if you ask me (and you're not).
1. Baseball
2. A couple of Belgian beers I can never remember the name but I drink them rarely. Sam Adams and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale are my regulars.
3. I have no feelings about Rush at all. Don't love 'em, don't hate 'em. In fact, this whole debate about Rush is bizarre to me. If it weren't for Pavement, I wouldn't even know who Geddy Lee was. Sounds like a cool guy, though.
Is there a win shares for bassists and other rock musicians? Maybe there oughta be.
Congress Debates Coolness of Rush
I like that part about Red Barchetta, since the part about the gleaming alloy aircar shooting toward him two lanes wide does rock, #############.
They're perhaps the most frequent "gateway band" for prog rock fans. Bands like Crimson and Camel get zero airplay and exposure, at least in the US. And Rush has a bigger following than Yes or Tull.
That's the truth. I don't know if I've ever seen a band whose live sound was so similar to what was on record - for better or worse.
2) I'll take premium (local craft or continental European)
3) Don't care for their music, found the Ayn Rand phase tiresome, but would now
like to sit down and watch a ballgame with Geddy Lee.
I knew a kid who was a drummer growing up in New England in the 80's and idolized Bonham. At any mention of Peart, he would insist that Peart had no skill whatsoever. It was his way of getting out of having to listen to Rush, yet everyone was compelled to play some Rush for him because he was so obviously wrong.
Reminds me of some threads around here.
The most boring concert I ever saw was Dave Mason, circa '74, post-Traffic. His set sounded exactly like the album his tour was pimping, seemingly note for note.
Obscure musicians don't taste like horse urine. That I know of, anyway.
Fun fact: Ayn Rand thought that tap dancing was the highest performance art form.
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