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Tuesday, April 08, 2008

SF Gate: A’s Harden scratched from Tuesday start

Those of you with April 8 in the pool, please stand up.

The A’s have scratched Rich Harden for tonight’s game in Toronto with back soreness, specifically in the lat area.

The injury is believed to be minor and it might have been the aftereffects of the long flights to and from Japan last month. Harden is now expected to start at Cleveland on Saturday.

The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: April 08, 2008 at 10:46 AM | 23 comment(s)
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   1. Danny  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 11:46 AM (#2734804)
See you for a rehab start in June, Rich.
   2. Shooty Rex  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 11:52 AM (#2734815)
It's Greg Smith time!
   3. PASTE is not impressed by Albert Pujols (Zeth)  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 11:57 AM (#2734820)
The injury is believed to be minor and it might have been the aftereffects of the long flights to and from Japan last month.


If anybody thought the long flight to Japan might have ill effects on the back of a man made of fine porcelain, why the hell did he go to Japan? It's not like anybody's going to get suspicious if Rich Harden gets slapped on the DL about March 15th.
   4. Rich Rifkin I  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 11:59 AM (#2734826)
"If anybody thought the long flight to Japan might have ill effects on the back of a man made of fine porcelain, why the hell did he go to Japan?"

Because if the A's left Harden at home, there was a substantial fear that he may have broken six ribs getting out of his bathtub without assistance from two of the team's trainers.
   5. Robert in Manhattan Beach (nee Redondo)  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:03 PM (#2734829)
Lasted longer than Mike Hampton.
   6. PASTE is not impressed by Albert Pujols (Zeth)  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:15 PM (#2734851)
True. Hampton would have broken seven ribs just trying to take his clothes off so he could get into the bathtub.

I'm skeptical that long plane flights can contribute significantly to a guy straining a lat. More likely the lat was already strained and the plane flight aggravated it, but probably not as much as pitching a full game in Japan did.

Rich Harden is a situation, like Mark Prior a couple years ago, where I advocate simply paying him to stay home and not touch a baseball for a full year, and then spending another year slowly rehabbing him back up to where he can pitch. His body just needs to recuperate before we try it again.
   7. Danny  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:20 PM (#2734867)

Rich Harden is a situation, like Mark Prior a couple years ago, where I advocate simply paying him to stay home and not touch a baseball for a full year, and then spending another year slowly rehabbing him back up to where he can pitch. His body just needs to recuperate before we try it again.

That might make sense as a baseball fan, but the A's are paying him $4.5 million this year and have a $7 million option on him for 2009. Sitting him for a year to see if it helps probably isn't in their best interests.
   8. flournoy  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:24 PM (#2734878)
I'm skeptical that long plane flights can contribute significantly to a guy straining a lat.


I guess you've never had back problems. Sitting in an uncomfortable seat for a long time can do a lot of things to your body.
   9. AROM  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:24 PM (#2734879)
What Danny said. Even if that aproach would guarantee Harden be fully healthy and ready to dominate in 2010, he'd just make a nice free agent addition for somebody else.
   10. Vaux, A.B.D.  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:24 PM (#2734881)
He pitched great in his first two starts of the season, so he couldn't be all that injured.
   11. AROM  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:24 PM (#2734882)
Besides, isn't that pretty much what they tried last year?
   12. PASTE is not impressed by Albert Pujols (Zeth)  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:27 PM (#2734891)
I guess you've never had back problems. Sitting in an uncomfortable seat for a long time can do a lot of things to your body.


Right, which brings us back to... why did Harden go to Japan?
   13. flournoy  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:34 PM (#2734900)
Well I can't answer that one. Until I read this thread, I hadn't realized that he went to Japan in the first place, so it's not like I've given that much thought anyway.
   14. faketeams  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:39 PM (#2734917)
Since when do lat injuries get lumped in as back injuries? I always thought back injury was used in a different context.

Using the defintion of "back injury" as anything not on the front or side of the body, couldn't a back of the shoulder injury qualify?
   15. AROM  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:39 PM (#2734919)
Not only did he go to Japan, he pitched pretty well there, 9? strikeouts or something.
   16. Dingbat Charlie  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:39 PM (#2734923)
>>Ben Sheets high fives himself in mirror<<
   17. Joey B.  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:43 PM (#2734937)
I guess you've never had back problems. Sitting in an uncomfortable seat for a long time can do a lot of things to your body.

The flight back from Japan was almost two weeks ago, and he made a start after that, correct?

It seems a lot more likely to me that he tweaked it either during that last start or in his side throwing more recently.
   18. Swedish Chef  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:43 PM (#2734938)
Would be just like the A's to trade the first class tickets they got from the league office for economy seats wouldn't it? The metrics are unanimous, first class is inefficient.
   19. PASTE is not impressed by Albert Pujols (Zeth)  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:43 PM (#2734940)
Don't do that, Ben! You'll sprain your wrist!
   20. Dr Love  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 12:43 PM (#2734942)
>>Ben Sheets high fives himself in mirror<<


Hopefully he didn't use his pitching hand, because he probably broke the glass.
   21. BourbonSamurai  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 01:53 PM (#2735098)
Hey, you guys are overreacting. It's just a lat problem. He's gonna start on saturday. That's what the trainer said...they...never lie to us...

:runs out of room crying:
   22. Danny  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 02:00 PM (#2735121)
Their top draft pick from 2007, James Simmons, left his AA start yesterday after 3 scoreless IP. No word yet on an injury, but they usually don't tell us until he's scratched from his next start.
   23. Zooooooook (jonathan)  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 04:46 PM (#2735646)
So we got two out of him this year.


Their top draft pick from 2007, James Simmons, left his AA start yesterday after 3 scoreless IP. No word yet on an injury, but they usually don't tell us until he's scratched from his next start.


This is more concerning, but ultimately probably appropriate.
   24. Danny  Posted: April 08, 2008 at 04:54 PM (#2735667)
Duchscherer to the DL to make room for Gaudin. At least Harden hasn't been DLed yet, though he very well could be to make room for Smith on Saturday.
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