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Thursday, May 31, 2007

S.I. Donovan: Feisty Weaver holds court on the art of the ejection

“Re-mem-mem, re-mem-mem-mem-ber oop-shoop”

“Bobby, I was surprised he had that many ejections. To me, Cox is kind of cool headed, not like [Lou] Piniella or Billy [Martin] or myself. Or ... I don’t know if you remember Ralph Houk,” Weaver, now 76, told me the other day from his home in Florida. “I didn’t think Bobby was the excitable type. I guess I was wrong.”

...Weaver recalled a few times when he’d get on the umpires simply because his players, who watched his antics alternately with glee and disgust, demanded it. Those didn’t end very well, either.

“I know, when Gaylord [Perry] pitched against us, for crying out loud, everybody on the bench would be saying ‘Earl, he’s throwing a spitter. Earl, he’s throwing a spitter,’” Weaver remembers with a chuckle. “You tell the ump two or three times, the umpires don’t want to hear no more of it. But you got to say something.”

Repoz Posted: May 31, 2007 at 03:04 PM | 13 comment(s)
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   1. Jose Canusee  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 02:38 PM (#2386391)
"during an 18-year managerial career in which he won more than 2,500 games, four American League pennants and the 1970 World Series."

Sometimes in BBRef the columns don't line up, but Donovan and his editors should have done a double-take when it's obviously over 100 wins a year. He actually should have written "Managed more than 2,500 games" (2541, of which the O's won a good 1480 of them during the regular season).
   2. tfbg9  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 02:46 PM (#2386397)
I love Earl Weaver. My all time favorite manager.
   3. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory)  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 02:58 PM (#2386412)
I recall that the umps really hated Weaver. I don't blame them. There's no call for riding the ump the whole game every night. Perhaps he cost his teams games with that crap.
   4. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 03:14 PM (#2386432)
There's no call for riding the ump the whole game every night. Perhaps he cost his teams games with that crap.

Cox does that too but his pitchers got the extra-wide strike zone for a lot of years.
   5. Dag Nabbit: formerly tolerant of lactose  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 03:14 PM (#2386434)
Sometimes in BBRef the columns don't line up, but Donovan and his editors should have done a double-take when it's obviously over 100 wins a year.

It's almost 140 wins a year.

Perhaps he cost his teams games with that crap.

Perhaps the writer meant to say Weaver should've won more than 2500 games.
   6. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66)  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 03:24 PM (#2386446)
Sometimes in BBRef the columns don't line up, but Donovan and his editors should have done a double-take


as Herb Score once said "he's 14 for 29; I'm not good at math, but even I know that's over .500"
   7. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 04:06 PM (#2386487)
Stupid question here, but does McGraw's total include ejections as a player?
   8. Dag Nabbit: formerly tolerant of lactose  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 04:07 PM (#2386488)
Yes, I believe they do, Vlad.
   9. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 05:40 PM (#2386552)
I love Earl Weaver. My all time favorite manager.


Same here.
   10. Kiko Sakata  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 05:53 PM (#2386565)
“I know, when Gaylord [Perry] pitched against us, for crying out loud, everybody on the bench would be saying ‘Earl, he’s throwing a spitter. Earl, he’s throwing a spitter,’” Weaver remembers with a chuckle. “You tell the ump two or three times, the umpires don’t want to hear no more of it. But you got to say something.”


The first MLB game I ever went to was Gaylord Perry pitching against an Earl Weaver managed team. Had the spitter working that day: 9 IP, 0 runs on 4 hits, 3 walks, 9 Ks.

And I agree with comments #2 and #9: Earl's always been my favorite manager, too.
   11. Repoz  Posted: May 31, 2007 at 06:16 PM (#2386580)
Back in our old box-on-wall true-life stickball league...managers had to bat (and this is before I picked up drinking as a lifesport!) and I always selected Earl Weaver.

Naturally, I had to bat on my knees which screwed up my strike zone...and, boy howdy, was it ever tough to jump back from one-finger Spaldeen sliders at your head!
   12. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory)  Posted: June 01, 2007 at 09:29 AM (#2387206)
Cox does that too but his pitchers got the extra-wide strike zone for a lot of years.

From what I gather, there's a difference between what Cox does and what Weaver did.
   13. Confined to the Halls of Congers (formerly Y...)  Posted: June 01, 2007 at 09:40 AM (#2387217)
Weaver is 9th all time in winning % and 7th all time in wins over .500. Criticizing him for yelling at umps is a little like criticizing Randy Johnson for not being a better fielder.
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