Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Thursday, February 28, 2008

S.I.: Heyman: Joe Torre’s clubhouse skills will be sorely tested in L.A.

And so are Heyman’s at FJM.

In an article featured in last week’s SI, “Junior” of the stat-driven Web site FireJoeMorgan.com claimed that David Wright should have won last season’s NL MVP over Jimmy Rollins. Earlier this week, I slammed that notion. Of course, part of my difficulty with Junior’s column was the idea that baseball writers are morons for voting Rollins over Wright. But the other part is that I think Junior fails to see the big picture, which is that winning counts. And so does not winning.

If Wright’s stats and play were vastly better than those of Rollins and Matt Holliday, that would be one thing. But with all those players (plus Prince Fielder) having excellent seasons but none having an all-time great season, I believe that either Rollins or Holliday, whose teams reached October, was a right choice (though I slightly favored Rollins).

Predictably, Junior promptly responded.

Enough bickering. I figured the best way to settle this disagreement was to go to Wright himself, and ask him. So I did.

Repoz Posted: February 28, 2008 at 02:17 PM | 23 comment(s)
  Related News: GeneralLA DodgersNY MetsPhiladelphia

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

Page 1 of 1 pages
   1. IJason Varitek Posted: February 28, 2008 at 03:27 PM (#2702303)
Someone's in a snit.
   2. Every tall catcher is the next Joe Mauer. Posted: February 28, 2008 at 03:27 PM (#2702304)
FJM is pretty good at busting Heyman.
   3. Shooty misses Bill King Posted: February 28, 2008 at 03:31 PM (#2702311)
FJM is pretty good at busting Heyman.

He'd probably be better off just ignoring FJM. That said, of course David Wright is going to defer to others. He'd come off as a jerk if he said he thought he was the real MVP. Sheesh.
   4. RB in NYC (Now a Man with Options! Maybe!) Posted: February 28, 2008 at 03:46 PM (#2702325)
There's no way Kemp doesn't get a full starting job, right? Even Joe wouldn't bench him for Juan Pierre. My fantasy team needs to know, dammit!
   5. The Essex Snead Posted: February 28, 2008 at 03:50 PM (#2702328)
All signs (and rumours) point to an Ethier / Kemp platoon in RF, and a Pierre-flavored helping of suck in LF. If JP was truly a team player, he'd fake a serious muscle pull and spend 90% of the season on the DL. Or he could be a real trooper and get hurt for real.
   6. Every tall catcher is the next Joe Mauer. Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:12 PM (#2702349)
#3 I think you need to read #2 again, haha.
   7. yakyutoo Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:29 PM (#2702369)
Sorry, I just don't see B.K. Kim putting the Pirates over the top.


I always love when people call him BK Kim.
   8. Raskolnikov Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:38 PM (#2702384)
Rumors are also that Nomar might block LaRoche at 3B.

This is why I don't trust Willie. I think he's taken from Torre this stubborn tendency to go with the veteran, so that any promising young player will be over-ripe before he becomes an everyday starter.
   9. Every tall catcher is the next Joe Mauer. Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:58 PM (#2702401)
If Kemp and LaRoche are blocked can't they just trade them for a top flight SP like Blanton, heck they would probably even throw in Street and Embree.
   10. John Lynch Posted: February 28, 2008 at 04:58 PM (#2702402)
Why would a writer even think about replying to an FJM post?
   11. Shooty misses Bill King Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:02 PM (#2702409)
If Kemp and LaRoche are blocked can't they just trade them for a top flight SP like Blanton, heck they would probably even throw in Street and Embree.

Yes, please.
   12. pkb33 Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:19 PM (#2702432)
Jon Heyman's writing and reporting skills will be sorely tested when CNNSI asks him to cover teams beyond the Mets and Yankees in his column.

As 'appeals to authority' go it is also spectacularly unconvincing to give us David Wright's post-hoc MVP analysis.
   13. Bad Doctor Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:19 PM (#2702433)
I always love when people call him BK Kim.

Huuuuuuuuge petpeeve of mine.

I'm sure I've posted it here before, but why doesn't anybody talk about the Hall of Fame careers of basketball superstar M.J. Jordan and coked-up pass rusher deluxe L.T. Taylor?
   14. Evil Twin Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:28 PM (#2702447)
Question is, if Wright had responded otherwise, would Heyman have printed the response? My guess, no.
   15. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:35 PM (#2702463)
Huuuuuuuuge petpeeve of mine.

Whyyyyyyyyyyy?
   16. Jason Kendall's #6,530,420,771 fan (AS) Posted: February 28, 2008 at 05:40 PM (#2702471)
I figured the best way to settle this disagreement was to go to Wright himself, and ask him. So I did.

Are you the biggest idiot ever?
   17. Boots Day Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:03 PM (#2702515)
You can call him BK, or you can call him BH, or you can call him BHK, or you can call him Byung-Hyun, or you can call him BH Kim....

But you doesn't have to call him BK Kim.
   18. Every tall catcher is the next Joe Mauer. Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:08 PM (#2702521)
Maybe he eats a lot of burger king.
   19. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 28, 2008 at 06:53 PM (#2702582)
I'm sure I've posted it here before, but why doesn't anybody talk about the Hall of Fame careers of basketball superstar M.J. Jordan and coked-up pass rusher deluxe L.T. Taylor?

or Arod Rodriguez
   20. scotto Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:06 PM (#2702586)
My Korean babysitter and her husband were always amused at how Americans mutilated Kim's name. If you want to go initials, it's KBH.
   21. Steve Stone 6.10(b) Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:10 PM (#2702589)
There's no way Kemp doesn't get a full starting job, right? Even Joe wouldn't bench him for Juan Pierre.


Kemp hit eighth today, behind Nomar. Juan Pierre hit first.
   22. RB in NYC (Now a Man with Options! Maybe!) Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:14 PM (#2702592)
I can tell I'm going down to the wire on whether or not I keep Kemp
   23. Nasty Nate Posted: February 28, 2008 at 07:57 PM (#2702618)
I can tell I'm going down to the wire on whether or not I keep Kemp


i was tempted, but i went with Abreu + Bossman Junior in my last 2 spots. in a deeper league i would've
Page 1 of 1 pages

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

<< Back to main

Support BBTF

donate

My Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Vivid Seats is a sports ticket broker, concert ticket broker and theater ticket broker offering the best baseball tickets like Yankees tickets, Cubs tickets, and Red Sox tickets, as well as Police reunion tour tickets and Jersey Boys tickets.

Ticket Nest sells Braves, Cubs, Padres, Indians, Marlins, Nuts, Pirates, Rangers, Patriots, Royals, Stars, Tides, Tigers, Twins, Phillies, Wings, Mets, Yankees, Angels, Dodgers tickets, and Dragons tickets.

Buy Cheap MLB Tickets

Concerts Theatre NFL Angels Dodgers MLB Celtics Theater NBA Tickets Venues NHL Lakers Tickets NFL Yankees NHL Phillies NBA Wicked Marlins MLB Concerts Cubs Mets Red Sox Wicked WWE Red Sox Mets Yankees Dodgers

Page rendered in 0.7832 seconds
81 querie(s) executed