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5. Tom's Ballpark Ratings
Now someone please rank the posts in this thread.
And the dining/drinking options near Fenway are 7/30? Really?
3, 5, 1, 2, 4, 6
Well, the Rays have zero tradition. And if you have zero tradition, then you have a link to him. And who knows Tradition! like him???
I've been grading too long, haven't I?
Also, apparently fans share some posters opinion of Levski, I notice the D-Backs rank 29th in "fan intelligence"
Of course out of the 10-15 games I attended, I don't think there was a crowd over 20K.
Maybe those are those are the ones who go all the way back to the '20s, and who have never forgiven the '70s renovation. If your yardstick is having seen the Stadium the way it was when Ruth and Dickey and DiMaggio and Gehrig played there, then maybe in relative terms, the history of the version we all know today is (by comparison) . . . poor.
I mean, what wouldn't YOU give to be able to go back and watch a game sitting there in 1927? Now, that's some history.
Judging by Mark Grace and the crowd shots, 29th is way too high.
But even with that, you might get a mere "Above average" at Yankee Stadium. Certainly not poor.
Also, re: traffic. The category also encompasses public transportation and parking availability. Both of which Fenway does great at, so I don't understand the low ranking.
Yeah, I know. I gave it my best shot.
IRS waiting rooms are a blast, too. I have to write up my experiences with the IRS in the mid-80s when I suffered what we would call Identity Theft these days.
How sad is it that the 124 yo Phils and 107 yo White Sox just beat out the Mariners for tradition?
Perhaps there are lots of people who are bitter that they can't just drive to the ballpark, park there, and drive away quickly, conveniently, and cheaply - which could never be done at those ballparks no matter what the team/ballpark owners did.
A lot of it depends on methodology. It would seem weird that, say, a bunch of mostly New York area Yankee fans would complain about that with regards to Yankee Stadium. They can't reasonably expect a smooth car trip into the city.
Kenmore Square after a Red Sox game is something of a madhouse. To me, that means it's a vital, happening place and I'm inclined to stick around for a while and take it in. To people like my parents, who live out in Worcester and drive in and out, it's an incentive to make like Dodger fans and leave the game in 7th inning to beat the traffic onto the Mass Pike.
KC also shouldn't be #19 in traffic. We're one of the smallest cities in MLB, with some of the lowest attendance. There is virtually no traffic to speak of, as Edmundo can attest to. But I guess everyone complains about their traffic. And KC has a large number of rural transplants. So yes, KC traffic is worse than Topeka's, but its nowhere near Chicago's or DC's.
I'd also like to meet the 3.8% that think KC has a good neighborhood around KC, and has excellent public transport. I'm wondering if its the Taco Bell or the Denny's they love frequenting before and after games, or if its the juvenile corrections facility that provides the full ballpark experience. As far as public transport, yes, one bus going to the stadium that take a circuitous route and an hour to get there is awfully convenient.
It ranks low in Fan IQ, which I can't really argue with but doesn't affect me one way or the other, and promotions, which I also don't really care about. If you disregarded those things, it'd be even higher.
I'd give Baltimore high marks all around for having good surroundings, good road and transit access, and a nice experience - while acknowledging that the team has sucked for a decade now and doesn't seem to be improving much.
They define "neighborhood" as the quality of bars and restaurants around the stadium. Poor choice of words.
They define "neighborhood" as the quality of bars and restaurants around the stadium. Poor choice of words.
I realize that. There are no bars, and the only restaurants around Kauffman are the aforementioned Taco Bell and Dennys. So I'm wondering who these 3.8% chalupa-eating Denny's lovers are.
"Also, how was Fenway 29/30 for "Getting to the game?"
Too high, or too low?
My dad has tried to drive by Fenway several times while in Boston on business trips, and he always has to turn around and go back after like two hours.
Agreed, the bars are good and the waitresses are very friendly which is nice. I haven't been to more than a handful of ML parks but I can't imagine getting around one any easier than Coors even when its a packed house. Also getting out of parking is pretty easy and I-25 is so close.
The IQ is definately one of the worst, I have become a pro at biting my lip.
I just realized today the Mets come here twice this year, a month apart.
Way too low. Any evening game has free parking within a half mile walk, decent-to-good public transport to/from most places in eastern Mass, and of course, it's smack dab in the middle of the city, so you can walk there from most places anyway. Driving up to the park is insane, but driving to games is very do-able. I almost always drive, and have no trouble getting out afterwards, with very minimal traffic.
The Pirates are only 10th out of 30 for "tradition"? The team that STARTED THE WORLD SERIES? Keerist.
Not the Pirates, the park. I can see that. It's beautiful, but not necessarily super tradition soaked, yet.
Check the standings, dude.
Note: to anyone reading this thread after April 30, 2008, please disregard the above.
They're a quality bunch of guys.
EDIT: I see now that the surveys were taken in March, so this is effectively a poll for the stadiums LAST year.
Sounds about right. All of these places have atrocious traffic.
Sadly, I've been to Yankee games, 30 miles from my house and got home in 2 hrs. That is traffic.
I've been to about 15 ball parks, in 12 or 13 cities. I have to say, everything about the Coors experience is excellent. One of my favorite parks.
How could you forget about the Subway located inside the Conoco(?) gas station/convenience store on the east side of the stadium?
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