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Friday, January 22, 2010

S.I.: Wagner: Mark Grace emerged from Steroid Era with more than his integrity

Yes…he came away with some of the greatest hitting statyrisis of the 90’s!

In a radio interview last week with Sports Illustrated’s Dan Patrick, the former Chicago Cubs and Arizona Diamondbacks first baseman said, “I am a single guy now and I was a single guy then [in the 1990s], and I like my sex life. I want to be able to perform. It’s kinda funny, but it’s not. That stuff [steroids] will tear you up as far as your manhood’s concerned.”

To be clear, Grace, who has been married twice, was never exactly a poster boy for clean living. He was the Pied Piper of Wrigleyville during his tenure with the Cubs from 1988 to 2000, fueled by booze, nicotine, his libido and his gregarious nature. But after years of half-truths and outright lies from multitudes of steroids-using players, his remarks to Patrick seem strangely refreshing. No, we’re not talking about St. Augustine of Hippo here, but we can at least applaud Grace’s strong sense of self. Finally, a man with his priorities in order.

...But this story has a happy ending. After that final stressful season in Chicago, Grace signed as a free agent with Arizona and bid adieu to his Wrigleyville stomping grounds. And finally, he became a winner. Grace was part of the Diamondbacks team that defeated the New York Yankees in the 2001 World Series. He even had a leadoff single in the bottom of the ninth inning of Game 7 to spark Arizona’s winning rally.

His conscience clear, he retired a couple years later to a life of more fun and games as an announcer for the Diamondbacks. Unlike so many of his peers, Grace came through the Steroid Era with his manhood intact.

Repoz Posted: January 22, 2010 at 08:14 AM | 42 comment(s)
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   1. Tricky Dick  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 09:39 AM (#3443910)
Ah, back to the days when men were men.
   2. Gern Blanston  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 09:40 AM (#3443912)
This really isn't what I needed to start my morning with.
   3. closeup of Lasorda's bunyon  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 09:56 AM (#3443925)
A scorching case of herpes?


EDIT Posted that before even reading the excerpt. I thought I would be being subtle. What a wanker.
   4. OsunaSakata  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 09:59 AM (#3443928)
Mark Grace is a first ballot, inner circle worst television analyst. And this is coming from a person who if forced to watch a lot of Rob Dibble.
   5. Bob Dernier Espoir  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 10:06 AM (#3443936)
I want to hear what Dr Ruth has to say about this.
   6. Sheer Tim Foli  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 10:09 AM (#3443938)
Mark Grace is a first ballot, inner circle worst television analyst. And this is coming from a person who if forced to watch a lot of Rob Dibble.


Agreed. It is not that I find him bad as much as he seems to keep talking about anything other than what is going on in the field. If he was banned from digressing, talking about he was eating and just focus on baseball I would give him another chance.

Sometimes I wonder if he is even in the booth at the game and not calling in from a party.
   7. Repoz  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 10:14 AM (#3443941)
CAR!
   8. Organizational Projectability (1k5v3L)  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM (#3443962)
GAS!

Gracie is one cool customer. I'm a big fan of his.
   9. Paul D - Canada's Endy Chavez!  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM (#3444005)
Isn't Grace the one who throws in the random facts about nothing? Cause that's awesome.
   10. Ryan Jones  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 10:57 AM (#3444009)
Isn't Grace the one who had the particularly repugnant method for slumpbusting?
   11. TUQUE!!!!!!  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:12 AM (#3444024)
I find Grace charmingly stupid. His analysis isn't worth a thing - I remember one game in which he referred to Chase Utley as a below-average defender and a good-but-not-great hitter - but he is just so earnest in his commentary, and really seems like he's enjoying himself, which can be fun to listen to. Sometimes annoying, though, too.
   12. Tom Nawrocki  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:33 AM (#3444043)
So let's see: Steroids are dangerous chemicals that some players used to help build up their playing ability. Cigarettes contain dangerous chemicals that can help destroy your body and your playing ability. If you engage in the former, you're a borderline criminal; if you engage in the latter, you're "a man with his priorities in order."
   13. Charles S. has very narrow views on many issues  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:40 AM (#3444051)
Isn't it possible to oppose steroid use without glorifying a guy who came into the game with unbelievable natural ability as a hitter and spent the next 13 years smoking and drinking and maintaining his "Joe from accounting" body? I heard some of the interview with Dan Patrick on the radio. Grace joked that (and I'm paraphrasing) he didn't take performance-enhancing substances, he was out at the bars taking performance decreasing substances.

Gee thanks, Mark. As someone who spent thousands of dollars on Cubs tickets during your career, I really appreciate this gigantic "F### You" to the fans. Sammy Sosa may have made some wrong choices, and we all wish baseball had made a greater effort to keep PEDs out of the game, but at least with Sammy, I never doubted that he was always trying to be the best player he could be. The media may get apoplectic about steroids destroying the fabric of the game, but from my seats as a paying customer, your crime was worse.
   14. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:42 AM (#3444053)
Anybody else remember when Grace used to routinely give anonymous, back-biting quotes about non-white teammates (Sosa, Choi, etc.)? No? Just me?

Grace is probably the single worst example within my memory of the press portraying a guy as having inherently good character because he was cooperative and quotable.
   15. The Joe Mauer Power Hour  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:45 AM (#3444055)
Anybody else remember when Grace used to routinely give anonymous, back-biting quotes about non-white teammates (Sosa, Choi, etc.)? No? Just me?

I don't think Grace ever played with Choi, did he? Wasn't his time in Chicago done by then?

I can't stand Grace as an announcer, but I will always remember his pitching appearance in Arizona, particularly his Mike Fetters impression.
   16. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66)  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:45 AM (#3444056)
Grace is probably the single worst example within my memory of the press portraying a guy as having inherently good character because he was cooperative and quotable.

I think he's second to Lasorda on that account
   17. Teal & Black Tie is Too Dangerous to Let Live  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:45 AM (#3444057)
Grace vs. Gracie. WHO YA GOT?
   18. Charles S. has very narrow views on many issues  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:51 AM (#3444066)
KJ, Grace took shots at Choi after he left the Cubs. Choi was the anointed successor at 1B. He broke his wrist and could not play that year (2001, I think). The Cubs ended up scrambling to fill the position. Later he had an on-field collision with Kerry Wood after which he was never the same player. Grace had several quotes like, "The Cubs couldn't wait to get rid of me to make room for this Choi. Now look at them. They can't even find a first baseman."
   19. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:51 AM (#3444067)
I don't think Grace ever played with Choi, did he? Wasn't his time in Chicago done by then?


Not on the ML roster at the same time, but they were in spring training together in Grace's last year (IIRC).

And of course, he continued talking smack long after he became Arizona's property.
   20. SoSHially Unacceptable  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:51 AM (#3444068)
Anybody else remember when Grace used to routinely give anonymous, back-biting quotes about non-white teammates (Sosa, Choi, etc.)? No? Just me?


How would we routinely remember anonymous quotes from Grace?
   21. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:56 AM (#3444075)
How would we routinely remember anonymous quotes from Grace?


Some of them were later revealed as being his by a Chicago media guy. And of course the anonymous quotes stopped the minute he left Chicago - coinciding with the appearance of similar quotes (about Kim, for example) in Arizona after he arrived.
   22. Stevis  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:56 AM (#3444077)
I think Grace said something disparaging about Choi on his way out the door. Something about Sosa walking 200 times if Choi was "protecting" him. As if anyone ever feared Grace's "power."
   23. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 12:05 PM (#3444091)
Mark Grace hit 7 home runs at age 38, more than Mark McGwire!
   24. TUQUE!!!!!!  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 12:13 PM (#3444103)
And anybody find it fishy that Grace suddenly fell apart and left baseball right when they started testing?

Eh?
   25. hokieneer  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 12:13 PM (#3444104)
So let's see: Steroids are dangerous chemicals that some players used to help build up their playing ability. Cigarettes contain dangerous chemicals that can help destroy your body and your playing ability. If you engage in the former, you're a borderline criminal; if you engage in the latter, you're "a man with his priorities in order."


As a semi-smoker, that sounds about right.
   26. Los Angeles Above-It-All Mien of Anaheim  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 12:15 PM (#3444105)
To be clear, Grace, who has been married twice, was never exactly a poster boy for clean living. He was the Pied Piper of Wrigleyville during his tenure with the Cubs from 1988 to 2000,
So he drank and smoke and cheated on his wives. But he didn't do steroids, so he's a man's man.
   27. Hang down your head, Tom Foley  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 12:19 PM (#3444122)
I was hoping the headline wasn't about his balls.
   28. Dayn  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 01:15 PM (#3444223)
The Mark Grace Era is tainted. How many pitchers' numbers did he artificially enhance by being a smoking, hung-over, over-sexed, doughy-bodied lout?
   29. SouthSideRyan  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 01:49 PM (#3444264)
I ####### loathe Mark Grace
   30. Cabbage  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 02:01 PM (#3444287)
Grace spelled backwards is Ecarg, which is that machine my doctor keeps trying to hooking me up to.
   31. Nathan Kunkel  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 02:24 PM (#3444335)
"He opted for a different kind of homerun."

words fail me... SI, you towering beacon of sports reporting.
   32. Fred Garvin, Collateral Damage  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 02:43 PM (#3444354)
Grace is probably the single worst example within my memory of the press portraying a guy as having inherently good character because he was cooperative and quotable.

The truly sad thing is that the majority of Cubs fans still revere the pudwhack.
   33. The Three Burials of Daunte Vicknabb  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 03:22 PM (#3444411)
The truly sad thing is that the majority of Cubs fans still revere the pudwhack.


We're talking about people who wear Ozzie Guillen lawnmower shirts and shirts making fun of Kosuke Fukudome's Japanese heritage. Not exactly the sharpest knives in the baseball drawer.
   34. Charles S. has very narrow views on many issues  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 03:53 PM (#3444449)
You forgot the "Cardinals take it in the Pujols" shirts. I've never actually seen anyone wearing those, but the guy's been selling them for years.
   35. Barnaby Jones  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 04:09 PM (#3444471)
fueled by booze, nicotine, his libido and his gregarious nature [...] No, we’re not talking about St. Augustine of Hippo here


The writer is clearly unfamiliar with the young Augustine, his most famous quote being: "Lord give me chastity and continence... but not yet!"
   36. Walt Davis  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 06:51 PM (#3444641)
"Lord give me chastity and continence... but not yet!"

OK this threw me at first but the dictionary.com first definition of "continence" is abstinence, esp. sexual ... which just makes the sentence redundant.

Meanwhile, while I like a good fart better than most people, incontinence is not something I'm looking forward to.
   37. jingoist  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 07:14 PM (#3444654)
After you turn 60 you learn never to trust that a fart will just be a gassy emittance and not include a moist surprise.
   38. bond1  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 07:22 PM (#3444660)
Actually, anabolic steroids are a derivative of testosterone, so it increases sex drive. You only lose interest upon withdrawal...if you still have the balls.
   39. Downtown Bookie  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:09 PM (#3444751)
But this story has a happy ending.


How appropriate.

DB
   40. Juan V is the mustard of your doom!  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:26 PM (#3444755)
#36 and #37: This is not a Steve Phillips thread.
   41. Leroy Kincaid  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:32 PM (#3444759)
Grace is what would happen if you put Tony Siragusa in the booth.
   42. tfbg9  Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:43 PM (#3444763)
Anybody else remember when Grace used to routinely give anonymous, back-biting quotes about non-white teammates (Sosa, Choi, etc.)? No? Just me?


So he's a racist? This is your, ahem, evidence? That seems a bit on the scant side for such a vile accusation, no? A couple of guys he supposedly back-bit are Korean and Dominican? WTF?
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