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Wednesday, February 07, 2007

Sportszilla: Arnott: Blink and Baseball

David Arnott has…“written a piece about Malcolm Gladwell’s “Blink” and slapped together a game involving this year’s MLB free agents to “test” one of his main ideas in the book. I’d like to get as many people as possible to play the game so there might be patterns to analyze and discuss…”

One of Gladwell’s main contentions is that after people attain a certain level of expertise, their unencumbered intuitions alone can do a surprisingly good job in their given field of expertise. Gladwell’s examples include Pentagon strategists, police officers on street patrol, professional food tasters, facial expression readers, museum curators, and orchestra conductors. I want to create a simple test of Gladwell’s ideas in regard to baseball expertise. Tangotiger has applied the “wisdom of crowds” to his Fans’ Scouting Reports, and I think testing intuition versus carefully referring to piles of statistics in order to make a decision is a natural complement to that work.

Repoz Posted: February 07, 2007 at 01:10 PM | 3 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: February 08, 2007 at 03:38 AM (#2293886)
One of Gladwell’s main contentions is that after people attain a certain level of expertise, their unencumbered intuitions alone can do a surprisingly good job in their given field of expertise. Gladwell’s examples include Pentagon strategists,...


I just hurt myself.

If this is an important component of Arnott's arguments he must be dumber than a chicken.
   2. David de Sportszilla (aka DeadTeddy8) Posted: February 08, 2007 at 07:47 AM (#2293958)
In Blink, Gladwell describes how the Pentagon brought in a retired officer to act as a "rogue commander in the Middle East" for a war game called the Millenium Challenge. Read the Guardian article to see what happened. You'll have to read Gladwell for his interpretation. The man was, at the time, a "Pentagon strategist", and I didn't think it unreasonable to leave the phrase as it is. Besides that, calling me dumber than a chicken is kind of outta line, especially since you clearly responded before reading the piece. If you'd read it first, then I'd expect a couple reasons from you on why I'm dumber than a chicken:)

Also, not to endorse any side of the US's current situation in Iraq, but as I recall reading, there were plenty of divergent viewpoints among Pentagon strategists in the leadup to the invasion and subsequent occupation; the people who didn't support what was ultimately enacted were ignored. If you don't like what one person or a few people in an organization do, it doesn't mean ALL of them are terrible at their jobs.

I encourage you to read the piece and play the baseball-related game I laid out.
   3. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: February 08, 2007 at 10:55 AM (#2293968)
You make some interesting points, David. Since you don't specifically claim (and nor does that claim, as I wrote, seem an "important component" of your argument) that the unencumbered intuitions of Pentagon strategists allows them to make surprisingly good decisions, clearly you are NOT dumber than a chicken--please note I included a healthy "if" right at the start :). I was in fact already painfully aware of Van Riper's performance in the simulation, and the concealment of it. I don't quite buy that van Riper, having retired, can accurately be called a "Pentagon strategist," and your use of the plural, "Pentagon strategists," seems a further inaccuracy which in context may imply that Pentagon strategists, as a group, are both experts and are doing "surprisingly good job[s]..." I just can't agree with that. My recollection of that time was that there was far less divergence of opinion than you recall--we may have to disagree. In either case there were no resignations on principle. Dismaying, given what was obviously at stake.

If you don't like what one person or a few people in an organization do, it doesn't mean ALL of them are terrible at their jobs.


That's certainly true.

Terrific article, btw.
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