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Surviving Grady: A Diary of Unhealthy Red Sox Obsession

One guy I couldn’t stand was Roy White.

Denton: For me, picking the biggest d-bag ever to wear a Yankees uni is like trying to pick the hottest Victoria’s Secret model: there are too many choices, each with their own distinct qualities. Not to mention, there’s just too much history of hate-able Yankees. It’s like trying to compare the Celtics teams of the Russell era against the Bird era. You just can’t. So I’ve gone the route Dickens would have, and identified the most-hated Yankees of the past, present and future.

And, yes, I am kidding.

Jim Furtado Posted: August 27, 2008 at 09:21 AM | 72 comment(s)
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1. Toolsy McClutch Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:12 AM (#2918428)

I love me some Gimabi. I hate me some O'Neill. Course, I got a real hate on for Youks as well.

[edit] And I love me some CNR! I haven't thought about that "guy" in years!

2. tjm1 Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:24 AM (#2918448)

There are so many players to pick from, but is any Yankee employee more odious than Suzyn Waldman? Their announcers, with the exception of Ken Singleton, who really is the epitome of what an ex-player in the booth should be, are all more annoying than any of their players.

3. Delino DeShields & Yarnell Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:29 AM (#2918452)

Charles Nelson Reilly, RIP 05/25/07
Bret Somers, RIP 09/15/07

Richard Dawson really dodged a bullet in 2007

4. Moscow Hiding In The Shadows Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:38 AM (#2918463)

In the few years I've been here, I can't recall a single Patriot who fueled more Nation hatred towards America than Jeff Nelson, who actually had the nerve to do what every bullpen pitcher in history has longed to do, i.e. coldcock a drunken #######. Even that Communist judge in Boston had to throw out that sorry case.

But what happened to A.F. Boone? Was he just a sloppy second to B.F. Dent?

5. Holliday in Alameda (jonathan) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:41 AM (#2918467)

Denton: For me, picking the biggest d-bag ever to wear a Yankees uni is like trying to pick the hottest Victoria’s Secret model: there are too many choices, each with their own distinct qualities. Not to mention, there’s just too much history of hate-able Yankees. It’s like trying to compare the Celtics teams of the Russell era against the Bird era. You just can’t.

Is that you, Bill Simmons?

6. jmurph Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:43 AM (#2918469)

But what happened to A.F. Boone? Was he just a sloppy second to B.F. Dent?

That game was over, if not technically, before that. I mean, good for Boone and everything, certainly a memorable moment for him and the fans, but the game ended for me with the Grady/Pedro situation.

7. SoSH U at work Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:45 AM (#2918470)

That game was over, if not technically, before that. I mean, good for Boone and everything, certainly a memorable moment for him and the fans, but the game ended for me with the Grady/Pedro situation.

I think most of us Sox fans feel that way. It's the same reason that Wakefield is not considered a goat except in Teddy's clouded brain.

8. The Politics of Torre: How the HOF Really Works Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:48 AM (#2918475)

The list begins and ends with Reggie Jackson.

9. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:48 AM (#2918476)

That game was over, if not technically, before that. I mean, good for Boone and everything, certainly a memorable moment for him and the fans, but the game ended for me with the Grady/Pedro situation.

The SOSH game thread seemed to think they were going to win, because Mo had thrown his last pitch of the game. (Weaver was going to come in)

10. jmurph Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM (#2918477)

It's the same reason that Wakefield is not considered a goat except in Teddy's clouded brain.

Yeah, that's right. When Wakefield came in, I just remember saying "Really? A guy prone to giving up home runs is going to relieve in a tie game in extra innings? That seems like a good choice?"

11. Eamus Catuli Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:55 AM (#2918481)

Richard Dawson really dodged a bullet in 2007

I was all prepared to tell you that Dawson died years ago. I can't believe he's still alive. I've thought he was dead for at least a decade.

12. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 10:56 AM (#2918483)

This makes me want to make a Celtics-loathed list. Here goes:

1. Danny Ainge
2. Danny Ainge
3. Danny Ainge
4. Daniel Ainge
5. Danny Ray Ainge
6. Danny Ainge
7. Red Auerbach

13. Moscow Hiding In The Shadows Posted: August 27, 2008 at 11:08 AM (#2918495)

But what happened to A.F. Boone? Was he just a sloppy second to B.F. Dent?

That game was over, if not technically, before that. I mean, good for Boone and everything, certainly a memorable moment for him and the fans, but the game ended for me with the Grady/Pedro situation.

Wow, that really was fatalism. I was certain that Wakefield was going to last one more inning, at which point Rivera would have been entering his fourth inning and uncharted territory.

You also have to remember from a Yankee fan's perspective that they'd left the bases loaded in the 8th and seemed to have blown a chance to win the game right there.

OTOH I was positively cackling with glee when Grady came out to the mound and left Pedro in. At that point it was almost like batting practice, and Grady and Pedro were the only two people in the stadium who didn't seem to know it.

14. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: August 27, 2008 at 11:26 AM (#2918513)

The SOSH game thread seemed to think they were going to win, because Mo had thrown his last pitch of the game. (Weaver was going to come in)

I seem to remember it was going to be Contreras, which pleased me, but by that point I was such an emotional wreck from the fiasco in the 8th I may well be wrong.

15. jmurph Posted: August 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM (#2918518)

Wow, that really was fatalism.

Umm, yes? Precisely? I myself sometimes can't remember how bad it was, considering the good times of the past few years, but we were a rather pessimistic bunch for a few... decades.

But yes, I see your point. If I was a sane person at the time, the home run probably would have hurt worse because it would have been unexpected. As it was, I simply stood up, turned the tv off, and quietly went to bed.

16. Mirabelli Dictu (Chris McClinch) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 11:49 AM (#2918549)

Exactly, jmurph. When Grady left Pedro in, I told the TV something along the lines of "Thanks for handing the Yankees the f---ing series." From a Red Sox fan perspective, the loss was foreordained at that point.

17. chick-a-DOOM chick-a-DOOM Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:05 PM (#2918568)

and even me who hates yankees/redsox said to my husband the minute grady left pedro in - the red sox just lost. if grady don't know pedro can't get guys out, it is OVAH. husband shook his head and said (hopefully) so we're not gonna watch the rest and go to bed?????

mennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

18. Toolsy McClutch Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:07 PM (#2918571)

Exactly, jmurph. When Grady left Pedro in, I told the TV something along the lines of "Thanks for handing the Yankees the f---ing series." From a Red Sox fan perspective, the loss was foreordained at that point.

See, and I turned to my wife and said 'Gutsy move, but I think it's the right one. Win or lose with your best, big money pitcher'. I would have done the same.

19. meckrsox Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:09 PM (#2918574)

What - No mention of Craig Nettles. Remember the Bill Lee incident. I always hated Nettles for that and his attitude.

20. The Politics of Torre: How the HOF Really Works Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:11 PM (#2918577)

I don't mind Craig, but I didn't really care for that Graig guy. To tell the truth, I liked Piniella, but he was the only one from that era of Yankees that I liked.

21. Delino DeShields & Yarnell Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:15 PM (#2918583)

I was all prepared to tell you that Dawson died years ago. I can't believe he's still alive. I've thought he was dead for at least a decade.

He gets some action on celebrity dead pools. Of all Match Game regulars, Betty White is probably the leader in the clubhouse now, though.

22. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:15 PM (#2918584)

See, and I turned to my wife and said 'Gutsy move, but I think it's the right one. Win or lose with your best, big money pitcher'. I would have done the same

After Grady left Pedro in, I remember turning to my best friend and saying "Oh ####. We are so ######." Once Boone hit that home run, we quietly got up and left our friend's house to go home without saying a word.

23. jmurph Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:18 PM (#2918587)

Win or lose with your best, big money pitcher'. I would have done the same.

I'm fine with this attitude, but there are limits. What if it's the bottom of 9th? Or 10th? Or 15th? Keep him in? Now, what if he is CLEARLY out of gas and is throwing BP to the Yankees in game 7- what then?

24. Answer Guy Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:19 PM (#2918589)

I think most of us Sox fans feel that way. It's the same reason that Wakefield is not considered a goat except in Teddy's clouded brain.

We all kind of knew it was going to end that way. A knuckleball can be taken deep at any moment.

That, and Wake had been the Sox' best pitcher that whole Series. If the Sox somehow win that game, he's unanimous ALCS MVP.

25. tribefan Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:33 PM (#2918604)

But Giambi gets the edge because not only is he a ######### and a greaseball, he’s also a cheater. The fact that he admitted it and still gets to go out and cash checks for millions of dollars is wrong. And he looks like a monkey trying to hump a football when he dives for a ball at first. That said, when they finally catch A-Rod for being a juicer, the scales tip in his favor.

Thankfully there has never been a member of the Red Sox who used steroids.

26. The Politics of Torre: How the HOF Really Works Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:36 PM (#2918610)

Didn't Betty White die this year or am I thinking of Estelle Getty?

27. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:38 PM (#2918614)

That said, when they finally catch A-Rod for being a juicer, the scales tip in his favor.

When this guy finally gets caught ####### chickens, the scales will tip in his favor.

28. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:39 PM (#2918616)

Estelle Getty died, and the world is a sadder place without her.

29. JPWF13 Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:44 PM (#2918623)

Reading the article and the posts, all I can say is yikes, Redsox Nation has not only descended to the level of the Evil Empire's Fandom- but may have actually tunneled a space out underneath...

30. aleskel Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:44 PM (#2918626)

That, and Wake had been the Sox' best pitcher that whole Series.

funny, few people remember that - Wakefield had KILLED the Yankees that whole series. I remember thinking "crap, this will keep going" when he was brought in. The Boone HR was kinda unexpected.

31. tribefan Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:45 PM (#2918629)

Is that you, Bill Simmons?

Exactly, I'm surprised they didn't take a few shots at Peyton Manning while they were at it.

32. The Politics of Torre: How the HOF Really Works Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:47 PM (#2918631)

Now, what if he is CLEARLY out of gas and is throwing BP to the Yankees in game 7- what then?

I wish that I knew enough about pitcher mechanics to know this. I'll admit, I was nervous when Little left him in, but I was still hopeful.

33. aleskel Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:48 PM (#2918636)

A-Rod is a great baseball player, but he's proven too many times that he carries the ######### gene. The slap of Arroyo, the “mine” call against Toronto, and the incident that ultimately led to Tek serving him a mitt sammich

wasn't that last "incident" when ARod was plunked, took umbrage, and Veritek said "we don't throw at .270 hitters" (or whatever it was)? Wasn't it Veritek who was being a dick? Also, after the shove to the face, didn't ARod throw him into a headlock?

34. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:49 PM (#2918639)

Wasn't it Veritek who was being a dick?

Yes.

35. jmurph Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:50 PM (#2918641)

I wish that I knew enough about pitcher mechanics to know this.

I don't pretend to know anything about that, but I can recognize when a guy is getting hit. Hard.

36. Bowling Baseball Fan Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:53 PM (#2918647)

I was in a bar full of 100 Yankee fans and one Sox fan. When Boone hit it, I almost got trampled. I quietly left. I came back an hou later to find the one Sox fan still there. Not capable of putting two coherent words together. They let him drink for free the rest of the night. Today, Boone is his hero. He truly believes the Boone HR drove the Sox into winning it all the next year.

37. Delino DeShields & Yarnell Posted: August 27, 2008 at 12:58 PM (#2918656)

Didn't Betty White die this year or am I thinking of Estelle Getty?
Estelle Getty, RIP 07/22/08
Remaining Golden Girls would be a pretty evenly matched Dead Pool.

38. Charlie O Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:01 PM (#2918660)

and the incident that ultimately led to Tek serving him a mitt sammich

...when that big ##### went at A-Rod covered in catchers gear, including the mask. Yeah, that Tek fella is a real brave man.

39. The Politics of Torre: How the HOF Really Works Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:04 PM (#2918664)

I thought that Arod was pissed because Arroyo grabbed his crotch a la Lowe after Lowe finished off the A's in the '03 ALDS. I don't think that Fox showed that on TV, but I was at a SABR regional and someone who attended the game claimed that she saw Arroyo do that.

40. Answer Guy Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:10 PM (#2918669)

wasn't that last "incident" when ARod was plunked, took umbrage, and Veritek said "we don't throw at .270 hitters" (or whatever it was)?

Why did he go after a guy wearing a catcher's helmet? 'Tek was doing his job - standing up for his pitcher, the somewhat rattle-able Bronson Arroyo, who sometimes has some trouble with hitting batters.

It doesn't help that A-Rod (and Jeter) are among the more frequent recipients of HBPs in the league. (Interestingly enough, both men are plunked as often or more often by pitchers on the other three AL East teams.)

41. winnipegwhip Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:13 PM (#2918671)

Well, if we start there, I'd say Paul O’Neill was the face of everything you could want to hate about the Yankees. His cocky stride to the plate, his whining about every called strike or out call at first, and his oh-so-punchable face. Looking back, his career .305 average against the Sox probably fueled the ire. Put a gun to my head, and I might give him the edge overall.

I could say the same for Kevin Youkilus.

42. Jay Seaver Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:17 PM (#2918672)

It doesn't help that A-Rod (and Jeter) are among the more frequent recipients of HBPs in the league.

Of course, it seems that half of Jeter's HBPs should be called strikes. And the other half he has comin'.

43. Answer Guy Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:17 PM (#2918673)

Unfortunately, Youkilis does seem to have some O'Neil-esque tendencies. I think his propensity to ##### about called strikes is going to hurt him. I seem to notice the umps never seem to give Julio Lugo (who's been doing something similar for ages, long before he donned a Boston uniform) a break.

44. SoSH U at work Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:19 PM (#2918676)

I could say the same for Kevin Youkilus.

If you haven't already, I think that would make you unique among Yankee fans.

45. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:26 PM (#2918685)

O'Neill. As both a Sox and a Mariners fan, he was the whiniest baseball player I can ever remember. He cemented his place in my memory when he brawled with one of my favorite guys ever to play for both Boston and Seattle, John Marzano (may he rest in peace).

Danny Ainge was probably the worst-ever of the NBA whiners, and I say that as one who'll be a Celtics fan until the day I die.

I wonder who the umps and refs think the worst guys are. With Ainge especially, it was the facial expressions that were the clincher. The verbal part would play a bigger role for the officials, and we fans usually miss that part of it - darn it.

46. aleskel Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:34 PM (#2918699)

'Tek was doing his job - standing up for his pitcher

openly taunting a player after he's been hit by a hard object thown at high velocity is "standing up for the pitcher"?

47. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:37 PM (#2918703)

48. Mister High Standards Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:42 PM (#2918719)

telling someone to #### off or #### you is asking for it.

49. Cooperstown Schtick Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:46 PM (#2918723)

My hatred is more rooted in those Yanks teams of the mid-to-late '90s that gave us fits--with guys like Tino Martinez, Paul O'Neill, Bernie Williams, Chuck Knoblauch, Scott Brosius and Mo Rivera.

This list is just bizarre to me. Tino Martinez? Seriously? Is this a common sentiment? It seems like lumping Chris Chambliss in with the '70s Yankees. Bernie Williams? How does Bernie get on this list while Jeter and Posada get passes? No Jeff Nelson, no David Wells, no El Duque, no Clemens.

This does not come across as a well-thought-out list.

50. Sometimes it Rains (sj) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:51 PM (#2918732)

telling someone to #### off or #### you is asking for it.

See if that #### flies in court.

51. Mister High Standards Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:57 PM (#2918740)

Depending on what you did you wouldn't even get to court. If person A tells B to #### off, person B pie faces person A... Joe cop comes over, and breaks it up before it escolates its not going to court. If on the other hand person B proceeds to knock A teeth out and kick him when he is down, then of course it won't matter. B reaction wasn't fitting. Varitek's reaction was fitting, and apporiate. 9 out of 10 times nothing would come of it, and it wouldn't get to court. But you can continue to talk out of your ass if you want.

52. milford_blatti has gap power! Posted: August 27, 2008 at 01:59 PM (#2918741)

I can't believe I'm going to enter this debate; but w/r/t the Tek v. Arod fight: Arod, after taking a rainbow curveball off his hip, stood at the plate yelling at Arroyo. Tek, contrary to popular mythology, did not say "we don't throw at .260 hitters" but "take your base" or "take your effing base." Arod responded by challenging Tek to a fight. Like he's a 13 yr old on a playground, waving at him shouting "come'on!" So Tek punched him in the face.

I assure, Jason Kendall would have done the same and sooner.

53. aleskel Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:01 PM (#2918746)

Varitek's reaction was fitting, and apporiate

no point in rehashing something that happened four years ago, but I found his "we don't throw at ..." taunt to be very, very dickish. That the two went after each other after that doesn't reflect well on either, but to me what Veritek said was wildly unsportsmanlike and unprofessional.

54. aleskel Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:03 PM (#2918750)

Tek, contrary to popular mythology, did not say "we don't throw at .260 hitters" but "take your base"

source?

55. Bowling Baseball Fan Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:05 PM (#2918755)

Hated from that era. Tino, Paulie, Brosius, Nelson, Clemens.

56. You can't lose with Randy Winn, says Flynn Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:19 PM (#2918776)

See, and I turned to my wife and said 'Gutsy move, but I think it's the right one. Win or lose with your best, big money pitcher'. I would have done the same.

Hi, Rob Neyer, I have a question for you. Why did you write a book titled "Baseball's Biggest Blunders" or whatnot and then spend the next 260 pages justifying every blunder in the book?

57. Tropical Storm Davis, aka Quilvio "Ebola" Veras Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:19 PM (#2918778)

I thought that Arod was pissed because Arroyo grabbed his crotch a la Lowe after Lowe finished off the A's in the '03 ALDS. I don't think that Fox showed that on TV, but I was at a SABR regional and someone who attended the game claimed that she saw Arroyo do that.

I find the whole story highly, highly dubious. I mean, a woman at SABR?

58. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:22 PM (#2918784)

So...slow news day huh?

59. jmurph Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:32 PM (#2918800)

60. aleskel Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:38 PM (#2918814)

Yankee fans defend A-Rod for that incident? I have to say, this is news to me. I'm a Red Sox fan and will happily admit that Varitek was a douche for going after somebody when he still had his equipment on. They were both idiots. It was kind of fun. Move on.

I never intended to "defend" ARod (he shouldn't have been so pissy about getting plunked), just wanted to point out that Veritek was an equal offender in the whole mess.

61. JPWF13 Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:40 PM (#2918816)

Varitek's reaction was fitting, and apporiate.

no it wasn't, it was pure bush league crap
[edit- like post 60- I don't mean to defend ARod either]

Kevin Youkilis and Paul O'Neil... I'm neither a Redsox fan nor a Yankee fan, but oddly enough I like/liked both these guys...

62. tfbg9 Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:41 PM (#2918818)

It's the same reason that Wakefield is not considered a goat except in Teddy's clouded brain.

Very funny. Wrong, though.

I don't consider Big Game Timmy the goat of that loss. I do think it may have gotten into his head,
and it appears his big game yips began with that HR. Since then, he's bad in big spots, especially against the NYY's.
He was OK last night. Caught some breaks.

63. tfbg9 Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:48 PM (#2918831)

But you can continue to talk out of your ass if you want.

MHS-go easy on our friend sj, somebody accidentally used the term "top shelf" over in the other thread,
and sj's a bit rattled, it only being 2:45 PM still.

64. Joe C isn't Posted: August 27, 2008 at 02:55 PM (#2918848)

Wasn't it Veritek who was being a dick?

Yes.

Are you guys really still arguing about this?

If I weren't a Sox fan, I think I'd probably despise Youkilis. O'Neill is on my very short list of hated players - it didn't help that he was a fan favorite at a time when the Yankees had the Sox beat at every turn. Even today, I cringe whenever I hear "Paulie" in that hideous NY accent*.

*The Boston accent is hideous too, don't get me wrong.

65. Holliday in Alameda (jonathan) Posted: August 27, 2008 at 03:08 PM (#2918866)

People always forget how the Sox even wound up in the ALCS that year. Where Red Sox fans were left crying by Aaron Boone, A's fans were left crying first by Eric Byrnes/Miguel Tejada/Trot Nixon, then David Ortiz, and finally the dubious tag team of Derek Lowe/Terrence Long. Curse of the Bambino had nothing on the early-00 Chokeland teams.

My uncle called my dad after Game 2 specifically to let me know the A's were still gonna lose that series. Sure enough, it happened. Can't say I felt too much pity for Red Sox Nation when Boone went yard.

66. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: August 27, 2008 at 03:14 PM (#2918874)

I don't consider Big Game Timmy the goat of that loss. I do think it may have gotten into his head,
and it appears his big game yips began with that HR. Since then, he's bad in big spots, especially against the NYY's.

Did you fall asleep in the 8th inning of Game 5 in the 2004 ALCS?

67. Boots Day Posted: August 27, 2008 at 03:15 PM (#2918877)

Remaining Golden Girls would be a pretty evenly matched Dead Pool.

Rue McClanahan is only 74. Bea Arthur is 86 (she's older than Estelle Getty) and supposedly in pretty bad shape. The smart money's on Bea.

68. SoSH U at work Posted: August 27, 2008 at 03:20 PM (#2918885)

Did you fall asleep in the 8th inning of Game 5 in the 2004 ALCS?

Well, I think Teddy views Timmy the same way Simmons sees Manning. A contest's bigness is in inverse proportion to how well those guys perform in it.

Timmy/Peyton play poorly in big games...
Timmy/Peyton performed well...
It must not have been a big game.

69. Answer Guy Posted: August 27, 2008 at 03:40 PM (#2918926)

My uncle called my dad after Game 2 specifically to let me know the A's were still gonna lose that series. Sure enough, it happened. Can't say I felt too much pity for Red Sox Nation when Boone went yard.

It felt like '86 all over again. Like another giant cosmic tease. They come back from down 3-1 to the Angels only to blow the World Series.

70. jwb Posted: August 27, 2008 at 03:48 PM (#2918941)

Some Dead Pool stuff from stiffs.com. The top five, Golden Girls, and other persons of interest.

491 Entries.

1. Fidel Castro 227
  2. Ariel Sharon 214
  3. Chemical Ali 190
  4. Billy Graham 175
  5. Claude Levi-Strauss 147
  9. Suzanne Pleshette 117 *
 19. Estelle Getty 82 *
 20. John Wooden 78 
 26. Bobby Murcer 59 *
 76. Lou Henson 17 
 89. George Steinbrenner 15 
100. Preacher Roe 11 
115. Bea Arthur 9 
     Ron Santo 9 
     Stan Musial 9 
124. Bob Feller 8 
172. Frank Torre 5 
     Monte Irvin 5 
     Ralph Houk 5 
     Yogi Berra 5 
201. Betty White 4 
     Joe Paterno 4 
237. Dom DiMaggio 3 
     Ralph Kiner 3 
     Rue McClanahan 3 
296. Alvin Dark 2 
     Ara Parseghian 2 
     Earl Weaver 2 
     Harmon Killebrew 2 
     Johnny Pesky 2 
     Sadaharu Oh 2 
     Tommy Lasorda 2 
     Willie Mays 2 
392. Bobby Thomson 1 
     Bud Selig 1 
     Carl Erskine 1 
     Dick Allen 1 
     Dick Vitale 1 
     Don Zimmer 1 
     Duke Snider 1 
     Ernie Banks 1 
     Herb Score 1 
     Lou Holtz 1 
     Mel Stottlemyre 1 
     Pete Rose 1 
     Ralph Branca 1 
     Sandy Koufax 1 
     Wally Moon 1

654 Total "Contestants."

71. tfbg9 Posted: August 27, 2008 at 05:28 PM (#2919071)

Did you fall asleep in the 8th inning of Game 5 in the 2004 ALCS?

Did you sleep thru the first game of the 2004 WS?

72. milford_blatti has gap power! Posted: August 27, 2008 at 07:41 PM (#2919241)

Tek, contrary to popular mythology, did not say "we don't throw at .260 hitters" but "take your base"

source?

One question remains, however: Did Varitek, as rumor has it, spit out a Bartlett's-style insult at Rodriguez? Did he say, "We don't throw at .260 hitters"?

"That's ridiculous," said Varitek, sitting at his locker before a recent game. "I'm not that smart to come up with such a clever line in the heat of battle. I knew Arroyo didn't hit him on purpose, and I just told him to get along to first base."

Sept. 14 2004 NYTimes
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/16/sports/baseball/16varitek.html

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