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Sunday, April 6 1:00 p.m. Boston Red Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays
Sunday, April 13 1:30 p.m. Chicago Cubs @ Philadelphia Phillies
Sunday, April 20 1:30 p.m. LA Dodgers @ Atlanta Braves
Sunday, April 27 1:00 p.m. NY Yankees @ Cleveland Indians
Sunday, May 4 4:00 p.m. NY Mets @ Arizona Diamondbacks
Sunday, May 11 1:00 p.m. NY Yankees @ Detroit Tigers
Sunday, May 18 1:30 p.m. Milwaukee Brewers @ Boston Red Sox
Sunday, May 25 1:00 p.m. Seattle Mariners @ NY Yankees
So, of the 1st 8 games, 5 games with either the Yankees or Boston (the others have a NY, LA or Chicago team). I was really hoping they were going to add value to the baseball broadcast schedule, but they are just showing the teams that are shown all the time anyway.
I was really hoping they were going to add value to the baseball broadcast schedule, but they are just showing the teams that are shown all the time anyway.
Still, more nationally televised baseball is more nationally televised baseball. If things break right, you could conceivabley catch 3 games on Sunday.
That's interesting. I wonder if MLB will get smart like the NFL and NBA and start making a bigger deal out of the draft too?
Eventually MLB will adopt the NFL model of hyping ALL the teams. One day, maybe.
Teams on nationally televised NFL games are almost always teams that were very good the previous year and/or teams that have a large national following. What baseball does is the exact same thing.
If it does, we Extra Innings subscribers should lobby for a 15% rate cut....
No kidding. Even with a rate cut, I might not bother this year with no weekend day games whatsoever.
It seems rather balanced to me.
And that second Red Sox game is a cool interleague match up of the Brewers v Red Sox. Who wouldn't want to watch Ryan Braun try to navigate the monster in just his 6th week in LF?
I have a standard receiver and am thinking of getting Extra Innings but I am wondering if I can receive the "Game Mix" and "Strike Zone Channel" features.
Even the MLB draftniks seem to have a consensus that the MLB draft will never be as big an issue because the players are not nearly as well-known as the college stars being taken in the NFL/NBA drafts. Personally, I've managed to be fascinated by the NFL draft despite not giving half of a #### about college football, and I don't think I'm alone in this regard. MLB won't ever have a huge built-in audience of NCAA fans, but I do think they can do well enough to turn it into a profitable media event.
March 30 - Atlanta at Washington
April 6 - Chicago Sox at Detroit
April 13 - Y Yankees at Boston
April 20 - NY Mets at Philadelphia
April 27 - LA Angels at Detroit
May 4 - ? (no night games scheduled)
May 11 - Boston at Minnesota
May 18 - ? (no night games scheduled)
May 25 - LA Angels at Chicago Sox
Between ESPN and TBS, we'll have (at least) 16 games in 12 different stadiums with 17 different teams. The Yankees and Red Sox appear four times each, and the Tigers appear three times. Nice mix of teams and venues, though.
I'm sure they'll broadcast some games from Colorado once the weather is nicer, right? (I hear they have a decent team.)
another network shoving the Red Sox and Yankees down our throat!
I am going to call my cable operator and ask them to block TBS from my TV. I already miss the Braves games.
Um...this is good?
Eight of the 16 games feature at least one of these teams.
No, please, no.
Looks like another year of mlb.tv for me.
Well, he's only doing 44 Braves games on Peachtree TV, so Time Warner has to have him do SOMETHING to justify his contract.
I would have preferred his father, though...
If people are so dead-set on seeing Florida vs. Washington, get MLB.tv. I have a hard time trying to blame TBS for putting on the teams or matchups which they know will bring the biggest ratings. They didn't pay all that money to broadcast the games for philanthropic reasons.
Yeah, but no suits would.
Skip is too sharp, sarcastic and honest for them
I'm pretty sure you do not as Game Mix and Strike Zone are not in HD.
They really should have a Rockies game on the schedule, though. It's asinine that they don't.
I had it last year without HD. The only problem I ran into was I couldn't navigate the audio on the game mix. It was the remote, though, that couldn't handle that. I was stuck with whatever the default game was (Yankees about 90% of the time).
Hmm... I seem to recall seeing them on national TV just last October....
Five teams have played in the World Series from the NL the past 6 years; None of them are on these two schedules. Meanwhile, the 90 loss White Sox, Atlanta (who havn't won a playoff series since '01), Detroit (who've been in the playoffs once since '87), and Philly (who've been in the playoffs once since '93) combine for 9 appearances.
As folks have already mentioned, you don't need an HD TV. However, HD broadcasts of some (1 or 2 per day) of the Extra Innings games are part of the SuperFan package. Hopefully, they'll offer more HD content this year - more often than not, it seemed the games they HD'd were either Red Sox, Yankees, or Mets. Great for some, but being in CT, I get those games anyway. What sucked even more is that, because of the blackout rules, the Red Sox HD Extra Innings broadcasts were blacked out, even though I couldn't get them in HD (because of some DirecTV satellite coverage issue). Meaning that I either had to "put up with" grainy standard def NESN games, or crystal-clear HD games besmirched by Michael Kay & Co. (Stupid SNY better broadcast road games in HD this year.)
Don't get me started on not having ABC in HD, or else I'll really sound like an overprivileged jackoff.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I would also like to know the blackout policy with MLB.tv. Living in Pittsburgh, though, there's little or no downside to being unable to see the local team's games.
I could do without any New York or Boston games whatsoever, and a lot more random NL games myself, but I don't think these specific criticisms hold much water. The Phillies have been to the playoffs once since '93, yes... and that once was last year. They'll have a good team again this year, too. The Tigers have been to the playoffs once since '87, yes... and that was two years ago, when they were in the World Series. They'll have a very good team this year. The Braves are a perennial contender with obvious historic ties to TBS. The White Sox won the World Series a few years ago, even though they were bad last year.
I'll third the request for MLB.tv blackout policies.
To be fair, except for Colorado, most of those recent NL champions are expected to be pretty crappy in 08 (Houston, Florida, St. Louis and San Francisco).
While defending NL champ Colorado isn't on the schedule.
Where they lost to the Cardinals, who also were in the Series in '04, and the NLCS between those two. The Cards aren't on the schedule.
The same could be said of Florida, which isn't on the schedule.
16 of the 30 slots are taken by teams east of Atlanta; another 8 by teams on the shores of the Great Lakes; another 4 by teams on the Pacific Coast. That leaves 2 appearances by teams for fans in the rest of the country. Two.
As opposed to the White Sox, Twins, and Nationals, who combine for 4 appearances.
Wow, four.
I'll join your objection over Colorado's exclusion. That's ridiculous. But complaining that a bunch of NL teams that aren't expected to be competitive have been left off the schedule is silly.
When those teams are excluded to give more games to uncompetative teams in already covered markets, I don't think it's so silly.
You're talking about one game (the second White Sox appearance). Or are the excluded bottom feeders somehow more worthy than the scheduled bottom feeders?
These other points all have merit- but just the grasp of this key point above by Major League Baseball makes me very happy.
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The NFL played 28 non-Sunday regular season games this season. Four teams (Cleveland, Oakland, Kansas City, Tampa Bay) did not appear; Dallas and Denver were the only teams to appear 4 times (the same as Boston and NYY in these 15 scheduled games).
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If your plan is to expose new teams to the casual fan, then this is the way to go - match up good middle-market teams with good big-market teams and hope the middle-market team pulls out a win and new stars emerge. The average fan is going to look at Diamondbacks-Brewers and think if Webb isn't pitching then who cares. Red Sox-Brewers will attract much more interest.
Colorado should be on either ESPN or TBS's list, but I think the executives are concerned that their season is a flash in the pan. Not totally unfair considering they were nowhere until mid-September.
Which would be fine and dandy, except:
1. The Tigers are on twice in that timeframe on ESPN.
2. The Tigers, and their top-5 payroll, aren't mid-market.
Why are the Brewers more deserving of national exposure than any other team, like any of the past 6 NL champs?
Look - the NFL isn't afraid to put the (forget)ing Lions in every home every Thanksgiving, and I hear the NFL does pretty well on TV. Why is it OK for MLB to only pimp the same 4 or 5 teams year in and year out???
Because unlike San Francisco, Florida, St Louis and Houston, the Brewers will actually be good?
I do not understand how in good conscience you can argue that TBS should subject us to watching the Giants.
You were expecting fifteen out of eight games to feature those teams, instead of five out of eight? (Seven out of eight, once you throw in the Yankees.)
Isn't it the same as that for Extra Innings? I didn't think there was any difference between the two in terms of content.
figures.
It's not just the Giants. How about the A's, who along with SF inhabit the 6th largest TV market? Either team from Texas, the second most populous state in the country? The Ohio River teams (Pittsburgh, Cinci, St. Louis)? San Diego?
Look at St. Louis. Again, recently very successful. Since '82, they've been out of the top 5 in attendence in the league 3 times, so obviously pretty popular (the NYY were as low as 11th in the early '90's; Boston averaged fewer than 30K/game just 10 years ago).
If the rest of the season's national schedule resembles the first 2 months', it will prove once again that baseball is only seen as important in some markets.
I may well be one of the only who might be bothered by this little nugget, but as someone who was greatly disappointed in TBS's exclusivity of the ALDS this past season color me disappointed on this one as well.
With the Red Sox being my "home" team I had kind of gotten used to having a local OTA simulcast come playoff time, other than the 2-3 times I got down to Fenway they were the only games I actually got to SEE rather than hear. Now I'll have to root extra hard for the WS knowing it's the only opportunity I'll get to see my team.
Is it wrong that knowing I won't be able to watch playoff games is already starting to sour me on the '08 season? It's not that I'm assuming they'll get there, but I'm the type who listens on radio to every single game, and knowing I won't get the payoff off seeing postseason IF they get there makes we think the effort might not be worth it.
Hmmm, maybe that needs explaining. I can't really complain about the exclusivity clauses in the TBS contract, I understand why they're there. I just happen to be one of six people in America who CANNOT get cable (lines have never been laid where I live) or satellite television (I suppose I could cut down some national forest trees though, who'd miss 'em?) where they live.
During the ALDS this past year I watched on the TBS online feed. I can't remember what it was called, but it was a split screen with the games on one part of it and some studio analysts on the other (with audio from the studio and not the game).
Other than San Diego and maybe Cincinnati, all of those teams are expected to be under .500 in 2008. I don't want to watch shitty baseball. I don't see how you can disagree with that.
Look at St. Louis. Again, recently very successful. Since '82, they've been out of the top 5 in attendence in the league 3 times, so obviously pretty popular (the NYY were as low as 11th in the early '90's; Boston averaged fewer than 30K/game just 10 years ago).
Except they're going to be a bad team. It's the Game of the Week, not Little League where everybody gets to play. I want TBS to showcase the best baseball matchups they can get every week, and St. Louis is rarely, if ever, going to be there on its own merits. Even then, I doubt they wouldn't fly in to cover Cubs-Cardinals or something like that at some point.
If the rest of the season's national schedule resembles the first 2 months', it will prove once again that baseball is only seen as important in some markets.
Yes, those markets where the local nine are good. Do you not think this happens in every sport? I never see the Niners on national TV anymore - they got on twice this year, but both times it was for their opponent - when throughout the 90s I thought the Niners had a birthright to be on MNF 3 times a year and on SNF twice a year. Wonder why this doesn't happen anymore? Because the Niners have been terrible for 10 years.
Leagues do not want to showcase marquee matchups involving bad teams, as by design they aren't "marquee". That's perfectly reasonable, even acceptable. If I didn't have MLB.TV and lived abroad, I'd want to watch as many big games on my idiot box as I could. I wouldn't stay in on a Sunday to watch Pirates-Giants, because SF is a big "TV market".
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