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Sunday, May 11, 2008

Teen dies after assault from another teen at Giants game

Argument over usage of Merkin Valdez spills into crowd. Fans wig out!

An 18-year-old man died from head injuries sustained during an assault from another teenager at a San Francisco Giants home game Friday night, according to the San Francisco Police Department.

The victim was assaulted by the suspect, also 18, around 10:30 p.m. towards the end of the baseball game at AT&T Park, police said.

The victim was transported to San Francisco General Hospital in critical condition. He was pronounced dead at about noon Saturday, according to police.

The suspect was arrested at the ballpark on charges of assault. The incident has since been changed to a homicide case and a murder charge will be added to the suspect, police said.

Repoz Posted: May 11, 2008 at 12:52 PM | 25 comment(s)
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   1. Aspiring One-Armed Economist (6 - 4 - 3) Posted: May 11, 2008 at 02:13 PM (#2776714)
When one Giants fan kills another at a ball game, "homicide" is an imprecise term. "Mercy killing" is much more apt.
   2. aleskel Posted: May 11, 2008 at 02:19 PM (#2776722)
"Lord Palmerston!"
"Pitt the Elder!"
   3. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: May 11, 2008 at 02:22 PM (#2776728)
That's sad. Most 18-year-olds about a 50-50 chance of seeing another winning Giants season during their lifetime.
   4. kevin Posted: May 11, 2008 at 02:27 PM (#2776731)
Now we know why Giants fans were willing to tolerate Bonds for so long.
   5. AndrewJ Posted: May 11, 2008 at 02:32 PM (#2776736)
That's sad. Most 18-year-olds about a 50-50 chance of seeing another winning Giants season during their lifetime.

And at least three more ballpark name changes by their 35th birthday.
   6. jonathan (Joseph HannaCust) Posted: May 11, 2008 at 03:59 PM (#2776827)
Huh, and I thought I was getting the raw deal Friday when they tried to kick me out thanks to a case of mistaken identity. Guess it could've been worse.
   7. Guts Posted: May 11, 2008 at 04:03 PM (#2776834)
Wow, this makes the previous "We shouldn't be so insensitive about death" thread look like child's play.
   8. Robert Machemer Posted: May 11, 2008 at 05:13 PM (#2776987)
But of which baseball teams were they fans? Surely, there's a sports rivalry angle to this story that has not yet been reported.
   9. AndrewJ Posted: May 11, 2008 at 05:42 PM (#2777002)
Wow, this makes the previous "We shouldn't be so insensitive about death" thread look like child's play.

This weekend I finally got around to watching the "Scott Tenorman Must Die" episode of SOUTH PARK -- I'm not sensitive about anything right now...
   10. Guts Posted: May 11, 2008 at 06:05 PM (#2777011)
That IS a good episode. Let it be noted that there is no indication either of the presumed Giants fans cried at any point.
   11. James Newburg Posted: May 11, 2008 at 06:21 PM (#2777018)
I'm an A's fan, but I've been to a couple of Giants games a year since Pac Bell opened. Anyway, I was at the Friday night game with a friend and noticed a more menacing atmosphere than in years past. I left my seat around the seventh inning to get some food, and ended up walking around most of the concourse area (Section 117 out to about the Coke slide). I saw a striking number of aggressive, belligerent teenagers and young adults in groups (I'm 25, so please don't accuse me of being an old fogey on this) drunk and looking to get into fights. Security seemed pretty uninterested in stepping in to calm people down.

I admit what I saw was pretty anecdotal, especially without specifics, but I was wondering if any other Giants fans have noticed a change. After what I saw Friday night, I would have to say that I feel safer at the Coliseum.
   12. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: May 11, 2008 at 06:48 PM (#2777028)
I'm an A's fan, but I've been to a couple of Giants games a year since Pac Bell opened. Anyway, I was at the Friday night game with a friend and noticed a more menacing atmosphere than in years past.


Hmmm... sounds like old Friday nights at Candlestick.
   13. Flynn Posted: May 11, 2008 at 06:51 PM (#2777029)
There hasn't been a change. It's always been like that on Friday nights. I know, I was/am one of those people.
   14. wcw Posted: May 11, 2008 at 07:38 PM (#2777045)
Well, there may have been a change back.

I remember as a kid, I loved the Giants (inexplicably: I was raised in the East Bay), but I feared the Candlestick drunks, much as they usually amused (holy hannah, those men could heckle). I never in my life felt frightened at a Raiders game, but those early-'80s Giants games in the bleachers occasionally gave me pause.
   15. areyoukiddingme Posted: May 11, 2008 at 11:49 PM (#2777505)
my nephew was the kid killed...come on now people you have no idea what happened here and can you be any more insentive. he was sucker punched or whatever the hell you call it from behind and had no way to defend himself. the fight wasn't even about the giants game. he was a living, breathing, loving and great person (a son, a brother, a grandson, a nephew and a friend to many) until his head hit the pavement so hard his head filled with blood and stopped his ability to breath. i agree, violence isn't any way to solve anything. mercy killing-you're sick-this was a tragedy we are still unable to comprehend. my nephew lived for baseball...died for it too...how incredibly fricking sad is that.
   16. Howie Menckel Posted: May 12, 2008 at 12:58 AM (#2777515)
Condolences from across this Website for your loss.
   17. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 12, 2008 at 01:26 AM (#2777520)
I have no idea if areyoukiddingme is really related to the victim, or just trying to call attention to the callous humor. If he's honest, sorry for your senseless loss. If he's not, I'm sorry for someone else's senseless loss.

I will say this thread didn't sit well with me before his appearance. I recognize there are times when genuine humor can be pulled from tragedy. In this instance, at least from where I sit, it seems a little forced, quite unnecessary and, in the end, not particularly funny.
   18. areyoukiddingme Posted: May 12, 2008 at 02:28 AM (#2777531)
Thank you..I am actually one of the victims aunts-sitting here trying to understand how this happened! I was sitting here with one of my daughters who is trying to process this and we were literally ill reading the comments above. We loved and adored this boy and he's gone. My poor 14 year old can't understand why people are so mean and can say/write such insensitive things. We are both going to go take a sleeping pill now so we can sleep tonight. We need our strength to help our other family members grieve and oh yeah, plan a funeral. I won't be checking back...just going to turn my anger into something positive and promote peace at ball games I guess...what else can I do?
   19. I Am He, All Man Czar (TempleUSox) Posted: May 12, 2008 at 02:35 AM (#2777532)
I know, I was/am one of those people.
No you aren't.
   20. mel otts home field advantage (DrS&;s) Posted: May 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM (#2777762)
I saw a striking number of aggressive, belligerent teenagers and young adults in groups (I'm 25, so please don't accuse me of being an old fogey on this) drunk and looking to get into fights. Security seemed pretty uninterested in stepping in to calm people down.


Heh...seriously, did you just crib this from "30 Rock"? "Youths!"

:-)
   21. robinred Posted: May 12, 2008 at 12:57 PM (#2777773)
I have no idea if areyoukiddingme is really related to the victim, or just trying to call attention to the callous humor. If he's honest, sorry for your senseless loss. If he's not, I'm sorry for someone else's senseless loss
.

This happened on the Taylor Hooten thread--Hooten's dad and a few friends showed up, and it was rather tense.

Kmowing two people who have lost relatives to the violence over the last three years, I do know that sometimes they do search the net looking for refs to it, so areyoukiddingme seems to be for real.

As such, I am sorry for your loss. I also know a grief counselor who lost her son should you wish to talk to someone outside of your immediate support group.
   22. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: May 12, 2008 at 01:06 PM (#2777785)
More details, for those interested.

It turns out a friend of mine knew the victim, or at least the victim's father.

Many lives ruined, over something stupid and pointless.
   23. Shooty misses Bill King Posted: May 12, 2008 at 01:09 PM (#2777788)
I went to Giants and A's games growing up and I saw many, many fights at both stadiums. I don't miss the idiocy and I hope MLB does what it takes to keep it from coming back.
   24. bads85 Posted: May 12, 2008 at 01:11 PM (#2777793)
After what I saw Friday night, I would have to say that I feel safer at the Coliseum.


Right -- empty seats are not that menacing.
   25. scotto Posted: May 12, 2008 at 02:20 PM (#2777843)
Thanks for the link TJRE. What a terrible thing. Condolences to the family and friends.
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