BBTF's Newsblog Discussion :: The Baseline Report: MONEY HAUL

Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Friday, September 07, 2007

The Baseline Report: MONEY HAUL

Mike Pagliarulo’s name is correctly pronounced “PAH-lee-uh-ROO-low-BLOW”.

• GM David Forst uses OPS, OBP, LLBean, FYI, and SOB as a system of analysis. Astoundingly, the same championship formula no one else uses.

Other general manager disciples such as Epstein, Cashman, Daniels, and Richardi have larger money blankets than Billy Beane, but they don’t use their blankets to warm Billy when he flounders and produces a product void of luster.

The fact is that the A’s will never win a World Series relying upon their current statistical formulas. The Oakland franchise is not structured to win a World Series. Sadly, Billy Beane doesn’t know this nor do his disciples. Fundamental baseball wins championships and fundamentals aren’t found in the statistical formulas used when signing players for the Oakland franchise. They don’t get it, yet the “disciples” will revel in the notion that Billy B. says, “Joba Chamberlain is going to be a star”…………Now there’s a big time prediction!

Repoz Posted: September 07, 2007 at 12:33 PM | 21 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
Related News: General, Sabermetrics, Oakland

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

Page 1 of 1 pages

1. The Essex Snead Posted: September 07, 2007 at 12:54 PM (#2514986)

It must be nice to have the courage of your convictions and the stupidity to not realize that your convictions are full of sh*t.

2. JPWF13

Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:01 PM (#2514988)

The anti-moneyballers are in full glory I see.

It took BL a while to come out this year, but then he undoubtedly remembers celebrating prematurely a couple of years ago.

3. PASTE is not impressed by Albert Pujols (Zeth) Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:01 PM (#2514989)

See, the problem is that aside from FJM's nice little niche of brutalizing bad writing, we don't really have anybody to just go out there and irrationally rip "traditional/scouting/fundamentals" philosophy to pieces incessantly, not caring how ridiculous he looks. The Raccoon Lodge has tons of guys dedicated to doing that against anyone that suggests that, you know, stats might be useful. Maybe I'll leave off being reasonable--there are already plenty of people doing that--and make a new schtick. Problem is, I'm not funny enough.

4. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:05 PM (#2514993)

nothing to see here, folks; just move along

5. John DiFool2 Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:05 PM (#2514994)

:sits back and starts munching popcorn:

6. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:09 PM (#2514997)

OPS, OBP, LLBean, FYI, and SOB

See, this wasn't that humorous in the first place, and it definitely isn't funny 6 years later.

7. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:09 PM (#2514998)

Where does Beane rank among GMs in games won in their first 11 years? I would have to think he's very high on the list.

8. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:14 PM (#2515002)

Where does Beane rank among GMs in games won in their first 11 years?

How many GMs have even lasted 11 years? Maybe there's more turnover in the modern game than there was before, but there aren't a lot of GMs who have been successful enough to not have been replaced after 11 years.

9. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:16 PM (#2515004)

Clearly the A's need to abandon their philosophy and hire Jim Tracy to teach Nick Swisher the fundamentals.

These articles are beyond stupid. I should start collecting them as a kind of time capsule documenting stupidity. It would be like reading a stack of articles from 1910 about Jack Johnson. (Man, if you ever want a sense for how rabidly racist we were a hundred years ago, read some of those diatribes. Even the "friendly" articles are pretty bad.)

10. scareduck Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:16 PM (#2515005)

Billy Beane shouldn't have written that book about Rich Harden getting injured.

11. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:24 PM (#2515010)

Pag's partner:

Adam White approaches his baseball analysis from a business perspective, with a focus on the performance of general managers, team presidents and ownership. Adam is the President/CEO of Biometrix Corporation and has an MBA from the MIT Sloan School of Management. At MIT Sloan he authored a marketing thesis entitled “Understanding the Wants and Needs of Professional Sports Fans.”

Cursed with no apparent baseball skills, he taught himself a submarine knuckleball and was able to fool his coaches into letting him pitch in three games for Division III Grinnell College in 1991. He has written business plans for the acquisitions of the World’s Strongest Man Competition and the Kansas City Royals and played seven years of semi-pro football.

Grinnell? I wonder if Forman knows him.

12. The Buddy Biancalana Hit Counter Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:28 PM (#2515015)

13. Rich Posted: September 07, 2007 at 01:45 PM (#2515042)

The fact is that the A’s will never win a World Series relying upon their current statistical formulas.

I wonder what statistical formula enabled Jeter to make the flip play in the 2001 ALDS. But for that unlikely turn of events, the A's stood a very good chance of going on to win the WS.

14. BourbonSamurai is not Fausto Carmona Posted: September 07, 2007 at 03:33 PM (#2515215)

I wonder what statistical formula enabled Jeter to make the flip play in the 2001 ALDS. But for that unlikely turn of events, the A's stood a very good chance of going on to win the WS.

I am re-enraged every time I see the replay. If Jeremy Giambi is ever found beheaded with "Slide!" carved into his chest, well...I will hopefully have an alibi.

15. Charlie O Posted: September 07, 2007 at 04:45 PM (#2515310)

Giambi would not have won the game with a slide. His run would have tied it. Giambi's blunder wasn't nearly as big as those committed in a potential clincher against the Red Sox. Remember when Tejada and Byrnes forgot that one has to actually touch all the bases for one's run to count? Or when Eric Chavez forgot how to execute a run-down play and handed over a run by obstructing Boston's slowest runner? They lost that game in extra innings after refusing to score at least two runs and handing over another for free. That loss burns me up much more than the loss to the Yankees. At least in the Yankees' case, it took an incredible play on their part to preserve their victory. The Red Sox just had to stand there and watch the A's self-destruct.

16. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: September 07, 2007 at 04:53 PM (#2515326)

Charlie O...yes. That was the worse loss ever. Worse than the Gibson home run, even, because that was kind of cool. The Red Sox players were ########## in that series, too.

17. The Essex Snead Posted: September 07, 2007 at 05:38 PM (#2515397)

They were not!

(I have no idea what ########## means.)

18. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: September 07, 2007 at 05:40 PM (#2515405)

(I have no idea what ########## means.)

Rhymes with mooshdag.

19. larkin4HoF Posted: September 08, 2007 at 07:29 AM (#2516349)

I did RTFA, but i agree with this guy-we should stop paying attention to all this gobbelygook like OBP and just teach hitters the fundemental skill of getting on base.

20. larkin4HoF Posted: September 08, 2007 at 07:54 AM (#2516352)

Sorry, should have been I did not RTFA.

21. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: September 14, 2007 at 02:39 AM (#2523792)

In honor of Jesus Melendez and keeping with post three, here's FJM's take on this.

Page 1 of 1 pages

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

<< Back to main

Friday, September 07, 2007

The Baseline Report: MONEY HAUL

Reader Comments and Retorts

Support BBTF

Bookmarks

Hot Topics