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Monday, May 05, 2008

The Black (and Gold) Spot: Things that make me crazy

Me being Vlad. Things = crazy being Jonah Keri’s “The failure dynasties” article.

I shouldn’t get so upset about this kind of stuff, but I still do, years after the fact. Whenever a national writer doesn’t care enough about the Pirates to get the story right, it’s a microcosm for every time the team has been ignored or slighted by the national media. Every undeserving outfielder who went to an All-Star game while Brian Giles watched the at home. Every time that ESPN didn’t bother to show highlights of the game during SportsCenter, so we could get another five minutes of Yankees-Red Sox fluffery. Every sub-literate message board trade proposal where the Yankees give us three utility infielders and a broken bat for Ian Snell. The worst part about it is that Keri was, of all things, an Expos fan. If anyone should understand how irritating it is to be marginalized and ignored, it should be him.

I guess we can take solace in the fact that we saw the young Kendall playing when he was in all his plate-blocking, base-stealing, line-drive-to-the-gap glory. If some writer wants to retroactively try and cut that memory down to convince himself that he was right not to pay attention, then screw him. He’ll never know what he missed.

Repoz Posted: May 05, 2008 at 09:32 PM | 16 comment(s)
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   1. Belfry Bob Posted: May 05, 2008 at 09:52 PM (#2770040)
There were some lazy statements throughout the article...O's fans let him have it in the original thread over his comments on the team's future pitching (among the major's best stocked group of arms) and making a big deal out of signing Sammy Sosa, etc.

It wasn't the worst thing ever written, but I expected something better from him, too. A little too mainsteam-media-ish.
   2. B.J. & The Tear Posted: May 05, 2008 at 10:08 PM (#2770088)
Well, it was also more than a little bit odd that the Cubs never even sniffed the list. No WS appearance since '45, 99 years since last win, been to the playoffs, what, 5 times in the last three decades combined? Continually ruining their own position prospects, trading away impact pitchers, and ruining the ones who do make it. It's a terrible, terrible franchise with regards to failure. Sure they look decent this year, and they played alright enough last year to sneak in from a weak NL Central and then get swept in the first round. So, I guess that must count as success?
   3. Carmona My House (Crispix Attacks) Posted: May 05, 2008 at 10:21 PM (#2770120)
The whole article was about recent failure, B.J. & The Tear. The last 30 years, with a focus on the last decade. In the last ten years the Cubs have had five winning seasons, three playoff appearances, and are the serious favorites to win the division this year. And in the last couple years they've become the (second-?) highest payroll in the National League, and that money appears to be mostly spent wisely.

I've only been following baseball since 1998. Therefore I can't remember a time when the Cubs were a pathetic franchise. They look like the poor man's Red Sox to me. Consistent self-pity, incredibly big fan base, crowded ballpark with high ticket prices, and for the most part, good teams.

Looking at their bb-ref page, though, I see that this has not been the pattern throughout their history. Still, it would not make sense to put them in with teams that have a history of failure that actually extends to the present decade.
   4. Russ Posted: May 05, 2008 at 10:30 PM (#2770144)
Vlad would be more awesome if I did not worry so much that he and I were the same person. Sometimes I want to check his IP to make sure I'm not posting as a second personality.
   5. Primakov Posted: May 06, 2008 at 01:32 AM (#2770443)
I actually liked that article. There's some fluff there, but on the ESPN-scale, it reads like a Bill James column.
   6. Russ Posted: May 06, 2008 at 07:40 AM (#2770489)
There's some fluff there, but on the ESPN-scale, it reads like a Bill James column.


On the ESPN-scale, so does the back of my shampoo bottle.
   7. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 06, 2008 at 08:30 AM (#2770504)
Thanks for the link, Repoz.

If you really are an alternate personality of mine, Russ, you could be doing a little better job of pulling your weight on the blog. Just sayin'.
   8. jwb Posted: May 06, 2008 at 10:20 AM (#2770579)
On the ESPN-scale, so does the back of my shampoo bottle.
EDTA is really cool stuff!
   9. Jon Koltz Posted: May 06, 2008 at 10:36 AM (#2770597)
Oh god, the yellow background, my eyes...

Sorry, but I really do find that background unbearable.
   10. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: May 06, 2008 at 10:47 AM (#2770612)
I liked the yellow. Good contrast.

Good piece, Vlad. Passionate and in control at the same time, tough trick.
   11. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 06, 2008 at 12:10 PM (#2770696)
I go back and forth on the yellow, but I never change it, because I'm not so good with site templates.

Thanks for reading and commenting, guys.
   12. John Lynch Posted: May 06, 2008 at 02:12 PM (#2770833)
Vlad, good article over all, but I would have loved to see some indication of playing time to go along with the rate stats. It seems awfully relevant to note not just Kendall's age, but the amount of playing time that he had, as this would provide much needed context in comparing him to catchers past and present.

Not being a Pirates fan, I remember both the injury to Kendall and the contract through the lens of Baseball Tonight, as this all happened well before I began using the Internet as my primary source of baseball information. I remember believing that it was a good deal at the time. You're right. Sometimes it doesn't work out. Good results oriented analysis doesn't proclaim a *particular* result good or bad on its own merits. It uses *many* results to determine the system that will generally provide good results. All results must be examined in light of what the right system would have produced. No system can be 100% right all the time. Of course, that's why it's easy to turn the Kendall scenario in a cheap shot: the Pirates' system has been consistently, horribly broken.

Also, kudos on the Treasure Island reference. Quite brilliant.
   13. Kiko Sakata Posted: May 06, 2008 at 02:27 PM (#2770845)
I can't remember a time when the Cubs were a pathetic franchise.


1999, 2000, 2002, and 2006 really weren't that long ago. Over the past decade, the Cubs have alternated between decent (85 - 89 wins) and really bad - they've lost 95+ games 4 times in the past decade. Maybe at the moment they look like a "poor man's Red Sox" but this franchise is always right on the edge of collapsing into abject failure.
   14. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 06, 2008 at 03:00 PM (#2770877)
"Vlad, good article over all, but I would have loved to see some indication of playing time to go along with the rate stats."

I probably should've mentioned it, especially since I tried to pick guys with similar PT, in addition to a similar stat profile.

Kendall through 26: 653 games, 2294 at-bats
Cochrane through 26: 646 games, 2204 at-bats
Dickey through 26: 617 games, 2206 at-bats
[Those three are really, really tight across the board. It's almost spooky.]

Kendall through 25: 501 games, 1715 at-bats
Mauer through 25 (so far): 442 games, 1622 at-bats
   15. John Lynch Posted: May 06, 2008 at 05:22 PM (#2771056)
I probably should've mentioned it, especially since I tried to pick guys with similar PT, in addition to a similar stat profile.

Yeah, I checked BRef to be sure. They really are good comps from a usage perspective. Anyways, as I said, the Kendall signing seemed more than reasonable to me at the time.
   16. Barry (not that Barry) for President! (arkitekton) Posted: May 06, 2008 at 09:00 PM (#2771333)
Good piece, Vlad. Passionate and in control at the same time, tough trick.


Wouldn't this make Vlad Bach?
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