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Monday, December 01, 2008

The Columnists: Allen: Saluting two men who changed baseball history: Robinson & Maris

No player, except maybe Robinson for different reasons, faced the pressures Maris did over that long summer and early fall. He accomplished so much. He pulled the country along with him.

He was an introverted, surly, brutally honest guy so the fans and most of his teammates favored Mantle in that challenge. He won five pennants with the Yankees and two more with the Cardinals before retiring after the 1968 season. He died in 1985. He was 51 years old.

The electees of Baseball’s Hall of Fame have ignored him ever since. Shame on them.

Barack Obama will change the nation starting January 20, 2008.

Jackie Robinson changed it on April 15, 1947 and Roger Maris changed the game of baseball on October 1, 1961.

And on December 1, 2008...will somebody please change Maury Allen’s meds!

Repoz Posted: December 01, 2008 at 07:46 AM | 12 comment(s)
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   1. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: December 01, 2008 at 10:35 AM (#3017879)
I don't think I've ever heard a surly-Maris anecdote that didn't make me at least smile. It seemed like he was at least surly for a good reason.
   2. Moscow Hiding In The Shadows Posted: December 01, 2008 at 10:55 AM (#3017887)
Nothing can be as aggravating as a writer who gets one big thing right, and then draws a completely insane conclusion from it.

Yes, Maris did face an enormous amount of pressure that year. While he never got any of the racist crap that Aaron did, and while contrary to mythology, he did NOT get booed at Yankee Stadium until 1962, he DID face an entire Summer of petty sniping from sportswriters trying to discount his feat from every conceivable angle, all coming down to the fact that he wasn't Mickey Mantle, didn't cozy up to the press, and didn't have a high enough batting average.

So Allen has that part mostly right. But what in the hell does that have to do with the Hall of Fame? After all this is said and done, you still have a very good outfielder who had one historic season and a handful of other very good ones, plus a long decline phase that took up a big stretch of his relatively short career. You have to be f*ck*ng nuts to think that this is a serious HoF candidate.

And to compare him to Jackie Robinson---Jesus, that only makes you wonder how on Earth Maury Allen ever got a job in the first place. That's about on the same level as Clarence Thomas complaining about a "high tech lynching."
   3. In what respect, Craig K? Posted: December 01, 2008 at 11:24 AM (#3017903)
Yes, Maris did face an enormous amount of pressure that year. While he never got any of the racist crap that Aaron did, and while contrary to mythology, he did NOT get booed at Yankee Stadium until 1962, he DID face an entire Summer of petty sniping from sportswriters trying to discount his feat from every conceivable angle, all coming down to the fact that he wasn't Mickey Mantle, didn't cozy up to the press, and didn't have a high enough batting average.


This just hit me like a ton of bricks:

in terms of sportswriters regards of them:

Alex Rodriguez = Roger Maris
Derek Jeter = Mickey Mantle

Am I onto something here, or is it just final-paper-caused sleep deprivation making something more interesting than it is?
   4. Moscow Hiding In The Shadows Posted: December 01, 2008 at 11:45 AM (#3017925)
This just hit me like a ton of bricks:

in terms of sportswriters regards of them:

Alex Rodriguez = Roger Maris
Derek Jeter = Mickey Mantle


And what's even more ironic is that in many cases, the same writers who were complaining that Roger Maris wasn't Mickey Mantle, were previously complaining that Mickey Mantle wasn't Joe Dimaggio. If only Maris had thought to put together a 57 game hitting streak and then gone on to marry Brigitte Bardot.
   5. Ryan Jones Posted: December 01, 2008 at 11:47 AM (#3017930)
If only Maris had thought to put together a 57 game hitting streak and then gone on to marry Brigitte Bardot.


If he'd done that, he would have been even more hated by the writers - "Who does this jerk think he is? Breaking Dimaggio's sacred record AND getting the sweetest piece of ass in Hollywood? What an arrogant prick".
   6. Moscow Hiding In The Shadows Posted: December 01, 2008 at 12:14 PM (#3017952)
Yeah, but he would have gotten every sheep and goat in France to show up at his funeral.
   7. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: December 01, 2008 at 12:22 PM (#3017959)
Fetchez la vache!
   8. Howie Menckel Posted: December 01, 2008 at 12:40 PM (#3017975)
It is human nature to believe that whatever one covers is super-significant.

According to a 1998 AP story, Maury covered the final week of Maris's 1961 season for Sports Illustrated.

If Maris is as important as Jackie Robinson, that makes what Maury covered that much more historic, doesn't it?

And yes, one would wish he had a better sense of perspective.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: December 01, 2008 at 03:00 PM (#3018136)
I've tossed this idea out before ... so might as well again.

Maybe the HoF should have an official vote and enshrinement for great "moments" or seasons or whatever. I know they already have displays, but maybe if we could officially enshrine Maris' 61 HR, Mazeroski's WS-winning HR, Larsen's WS perfect game, Maury Wills stolen bases (along with Aaron's 715th, etc.) we'd get rid of a lot the whining about why players who did these great things aren't in the HoF. It would also offer us some protection if, say, Johnny Damon or (god forbid) Juan Pierre makes it to 3,000 hits.

Or maybe it would just make it worse as this would be another feather in their caps and their supporters would have even more to whine about.
   10. too fat and ugly to play third Posted: December 01, 2008 at 07:43 PM (#3018373)
January 20, 2008 is going to be sweet.
   11. Monty Posted: December 01, 2008 at 07:48 PM (#3018384)
We're going to do 2008 over again? Ugh.
   12. Shooty Is Getting Off Clint's Lawn, Pronto Posted: December 01, 2008 at 07:50 PM (#3018385)
We're going to do 2008 over again? Ugh

I hope so. This time, I'm going ####### short.

(I'm excited, too, btw. I think we did good.)
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