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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Friday, August 31, 2007The Good Phight: A Little Love for Davey Lopes
We all know that if our team is getting thrown out at the plate more than they used to, we should blame the third base coach. So if our team is stealing bases better than they used to, maybe we should give the first base coach some credit. According to his MLB.com bio, Lopes stole 557 bases in his career and ranks 9th in MLB history in SB% (83.0). He was the first base coach for the 1988-91 Rangers, the 1992-94 Orioles, the 1995-99 Padres, the 2003-2005 Padres, and the 2006 Nationals, before being hired as part of the Phillies’ College of Ex-Managers (Jimy Williams is bench coach). It would be interesting to see a study correlating first base coaches with stolen-base statistics. Crispix Attacks
Posted: August 31, 2007 at 01:55 AM | 14 comment(s)
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Seems like having the baserunning instructor as the first base coach is a much better use of resources than the common pattern of hiring the manager's crony as first base coach and having his duties consist of "patting the hitter on the butt" plus some signals.
No kidding.
I thought the Mets were good with an 82.3% success rate and 173 SB. No team in baseball has been caught fewer times than the Phillies; only the Mets (173), Angels (119) and O's (116) have more stolen bases.
Victorino, though, is a completely different story. Had stolen 11 bases in about 200 Major League games, and had a percentage a little over 60% in the minors. Everybody thought he was fast, but there was no reason pre-Lopes to think he'd be a great base stealer.
Right on.
Stealing bases obviously requires a minimal amount of speed, but the huge variation of volume and success rates between players with essentially the same wheels makes it obvious that it's a task in which the learned skill of reading pitchers/getting jumps is at least as important, probably far moreso, than speed. An organization that hires the right coaches and instills the right training methodologies throughout the system can gain a non-trivial offensive advantage.
I forget how young some of you folks are -- that Davey Lopes was one of the best percentage base stealers in MLB is (I assume) widely known by us elderly folks. :-)
It's really a shame he didn't make the majors until 28(!). At 33-34, he went 89 for 97. From 38 to 40, he went 84 for 92. If memory serves, in those 38-40 seasons, he set the record for consecutive steals (since broken I believe). I wouldn't be too surprised if most of those times he was thrown out were when he was ordered to run by his manager -- if anything, Lopes played it too safe.
But I doubt there has ever been anyone in baseball who was significantly better than Davey Lopes at reading and timing pitchers and catchers and identifying the safest times to steal. If he can pass that on to young speedsters, good for him. He was always talking to the younger players during his playing days with the Cubs.
Unfortunately, there have been a countless number of people in baseball who were better managers than Davey Lopes. :-)
Roger that. And the degree to which Lopes's success rate increased over the course of his career stands as strong evidence for how much stealing is a function of technique rather than footspeed.
Lopes was just a terrific all-around player. Not only was he a stupendous stealer, he hit with good power, drew lots of walks, and was very versatile defensively. He was a vastly better player than his ho-hum .263 lifetime batting average would suggest; he is, in fact, right up there in the Darrell Evans neighborhood of all-time underrated, overlooked players.
Didn't Billy North say that young horses have to be fast but old horses know the way?
Best Regards
John
Now the Nationals' 1st base coach is Jerry Morales, who had a whopping 37 steals in his 1441-game, 15-season career. More recently he was seen as the Oompa Loompas in 2005's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Some raw data for those other teams:
Texas 1988-91
130/187, 101/150,115/163,102/152. Before: 120/191. After: 81/125. This might be as much a factor of the people arriving with him (Cecil Espy) and leaving when he did (Garry Pettis, also half a year of Julio Franco, who combined for 65/87 in '91).
Baltimore 1992-94
89/137,73/127 (maybe the worst of this sample), 69/82 (Brady Anderson 31/32). Before: 50/83. After: 92/137. Bad year in the middle, otherwise O's seem to have been more effective. Brady Anderson became a full-time player at the same time as Lopes' arrival and may have benefited from his presence, going 53/69 his first year.
Padres 95-99
124/170,109/164,140/200,79/116,174/241 (Quartet of 30-steal men with Quilvio Veras, Damian Jackson, Reggie Sanders, Eric Owen an aggregate 133/180) Before:79/116. After: 131/184. Steve Finley was a newcomer in 95 and went 36/48, as well as Brad Ausmus sneaking a 16/21. '96 and '97 also had Rickey Henderson, and his departure led to a drop in total but not percentage.
Padres 03-05
76/115,52/77,99/143. Before:71/115. After:123/154. Not much effect when he came back, but what a jump when he left, primarily with the additions of Mike Cameron and Josh Barfield.
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