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Is Carl Spongberg a pseudonym for Steve Phillips or Buster Olney?
Dick Stockton's an idiot. I know that goes without saying, but the Cubs basically set that bases-clearing double up for them.
In the land of the dollar biiiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllll
I can't force anyone to do anything. I'm just begging you: please, take it to the thread already designated for that crap.
Some taken. You don’t agree then, that there is a lot of pressure on this team? That the Cubs, in the face of a futile century, have a steeper hill to climb than any other team? That they seem to unravel under pressure tonight and not even Zambrano, who I have referred to as the most awesome man alive in more than one Game Chatter, is able to stop it?
Well, that’s your prerogative, I guess. Mine is to not like you based on a throwaway comment you made. Consider yourself disliked. For the record: Pitcher wins are a team achievement. This team, right now, does not achieve. ’63 Koufax might have a hard time winning an elimination game on the road.
I was up at 430 this morning and have to be up around that time tomorrow. Maybe if the game were close I'd stay up.
By the way, why the hell is the game on so late in Chicago? Weird. (I mean, I know it's TV).
It's looking like nobody won the Cubs LCS ticket lottery.
AND THEY TALK ABOUT IT STILL!
SO LONG FOLKS
By the way, why the hell is the game on so late in Chicago? Weird. (I mean, I know it's TV).
Its the A game and putting the game on at 9:30 puts the game in prime time on the west coast and put it on at 8:30 in the midwest.
Nothing to see here, move along, move along.
Wish you would.
More like bandwagoner. The hipster has already moved on.
never mind.
Are you serious? THEY ARE THE CUBS.
Wish someone would answer my question about the statistical probability of this level of difference between regular season performance and five postseason games for a Cubs team of this ability.
I think you saying Lilly or Harden could win in LA, but not an elimination game is the throwaway line. That makes no sense. It's stupid.
If that is your belief, then I don't see how you could have thought the Cubs had a real shot to win the WS, if they could only do it so long as everything went just right.
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Zambrano looked sharp, but fielders didn't. Think it was 5-0 when tv got hijacked (i had to pack for fishing trip, so I relinquished rights technically...)
So far in the debate, Palin looks bad. I want to like her I want to vote for McCain. I'm republican. Nothing said tonight by her is reinforcing my faith in the GOP.
First, there is no "five postseason games for a Cubs team of this ability." There's one and change. Number two, instead of assigning other people homework, feel free to figure it out for yourself.
So yeah the laundry says Cubs but so what.
If you don't want to take the time to prove something that should be relatively simple, quit mocking people who bring it up.
Same front office picking the players, same 1, 3, 4 in lineup. All but one inning pitched by people last year's team. Same city, same ballpark. Same catcher, same second-baseman.
But nothing to see here, move along, move along, every team is a different iteration and there is no organizational effect. Ever. And anyone who brings it up is worthy of scorn.
Runs: 0
Hits: 2
Errors: 3
it just further associates you with bush.
and that's not good.
Wow, it almost looks like nothing at all is the same when you chop it down to two of the many things I said.
Heaven forbid we question things when no one's attempted to bring any empirical evidence into the fray...
They are a fine team. They are also laboring under pressure and expectations and a sense of foreboding that no team in baseball has ever encountered before, with the possible exception of the Red Sox post-'86. The '04 Red Sox came up with a way to deal with that pressure, and still needed a fair amount of luck to win; the Cubs cannot deal with it. I generally don't subscribe to baseball pundit blather about "pressure" and "momentum" and crap like that--give me PECOTA projections, please, and hold the details about Jeter's calm eyes--but the case of the Cubs in the postseason is different: their performance on the field is clearly affected by the pressure, which exists at a level unprecedented in major league baseball.
Also, wrong "your," dude. Should be "you're."
Same front office picking the players, same 1, 3, 4 in lineup. All but one inning pitched by people last year's team. Same city, same ballpark. Same catcher, same second-baseman.
Correlation does not imply causation. You are the one that needs to come up with a theory that shows how those similarities lead to losing a best of 5 series for however many years you want to go back. If there is an "organizational effect, you need to figure out what it is and then test for it. Doesn't sound too simple to me. In fact, it sounds a little far fetched that the GM, coach, etc. (in other words, organizational effect) would have much difference playing and losing a best of 5 series. Sorry, but the onus is on you....
Oh sorry. Ohmygod same city!!! Geezus christ they are clones!!! Same second basemen? Oh my god that is terrible. How dare they send out Mark DeRosa. Same catcher? Ohmyg. . .wait what? Soto was the Cubs catcher last year? How did he do in June?
Rich Harden was on the team last year? Marmol should be gone?
This series has been surprisingly anticlimactic so far.
You non cubs fans sure come out in droves when the Cubs are losing.
49-14.
These aren't some flukey one-run losses. These are unholy beatings by a team that was easily superior to two straight opponents. It's worth consdiering, is that so hard to admit?
9-21.
Eight straight losses at a run differential of -36 and counting.
But we can't possibly consider even the faintest possibility of an organizational effect, because that's heresy.
You know how clutchiness went away? People studied it. You know how we learned about BABIP effects? People studied it.
But heaven forbid anyone consider the possibility of an organizational effect.
DLee is a choker now? Jim Edmonds is a choker?
This Cubs team is made up of veterans that have played for other clubs.
OK, so what is the effect? That's what we're mocking. You haven't done anything except point out the losses. We all knew that. You keep insisting that there might be an "organizational: effect and I'm asking you what that could be. You can't point to the losses and insist that "something" is causing it without telling us what that something is if you want us get into the sabermetric spirit. You gotta have something to look for son, that's how real statistics is done.
That's not the point. The point is we should be asking ourselves if we are seeing something happen that is beyond the realm of normal statistical variance.
Once we empirically decide if it is or isn't, then we can start trying to nail down effects or dismissing all possibility of them.
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