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THT: Calcaterra: Manny’s suspension: less crisis than opportunity

Calcaterra…in maximum Alcubierre overdrive.

July 23, 2018

COOPERSTOWN, N.Y. (AP)

...“Perspective,” said Baseball Writers Association of America President Joe Posnanski. “An understanding of history. An appreciation that steroids, while altering our relationship with the game and its players, didn’t alter the game itself nearly as much as many of us thought 15 years ago.” Posnanski continued:

“As more and more information about what went on in baseball in the so-called ‘Steroid Era’ came to light, it became apparent that we didn’t have a situation in which evil cheaters preyed upon overmatched innocents. Far more players used than initially realized, the effects were scattershot at best, and it eventually became obvious to all of us that, while steroids brought some benefits, they didn’t make a Hall of Famer. Sure, 500 home runs doesn’t mean the same thing now as it meant when I was a kid, but if we can induct pitchers who threw off of 18-inch mounds, took amphetamines and scuffed baseballs in the ‘60s, we can certainly induct guys who took HGH in the ‘90s.”

...Let’s face the facts: Many, many ballplayers have used PEDs in recent years. So many, that the allegation that any one user had an unfair advantage is at risk of becoming obsolete. As I’ve said time and time again, rather than demonizing these guys, calling for bans and locking the doors of the Hall of Fame, perhaps we should simply acknowledge that PEDs are best thought of as a generation’s unique playing conditions like dead balls, segregated leagues, and giant strike zones. We have no problem acknowledging that 18 wins and a 2.50 ERA didn’t make a guy anything special in 1904, so why is it so hard to come to grips with and adjust to the fact that 400 or 500 home runs don’t necessarily make anyone special today?

Have PEDs thrown us so off our game that we can’t tell the difference between a Hall of Famer and and a non-Hall of Famer? I don’t believe so, and I think that eventually the writers and historians will realize this too.

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   1. John DiFool2 Posted: May 08, 2009 at 01:01 PM (#3170501)
And so it begins, just like I predicted. This may be the minority view amongst HoF voters right now, but it will slowly build momentum.

By 2040 at the latest, Manny, Barry, Rajah et al. will all be in (Palmiero maybe not).
   2. Johnny Tuttle Posted: May 08, 2009 at 01:15 PM (#3170535)
This is just about the best article on PEDs I've seen in a long time. It's largely been my opinion all along, so you can see how I'm attracted to it.
   3. Bad Doctor Posted: May 08, 2009 at 01:53 PM (#3170596)
The next episode of Around the Horn should be Tony Reali taping down each panelist's mute button for the entire 30 minutes, reading this article to the panel, and seeing how many heads explode before the show ends.
   4. Toolsy McClutch Posted: May 08, 2009 at 03:54 PM (#3170844)
My baseball includes Manny. Apologies to Quebec and Canada.
   5. Crispix Attacks Posted: May 08, 2009 at 03:56 PM (#3170854)
The tipping point has tipped. The prospect of Craig Biggio and Greg Maddux being the only people elected to the Hall of Fame in a ten-year period has become imaginable. Therefore, something has to change.
   6. Best Regards, Larry Mahnken (Dewey is a slacker) Posted: May 08, 2009 at 03:59 PM (#3170861)
There certainly has been no NFL equivalent of Manny Ramirez caught red-handed, and I find that quite curious.
Shawne Merriman says "hi"
   7. andrewberg Posted: May 08, 2009 at 04:00 PM (#3170863)
The tipping point has tipped. The prospect of Craig Biggio and Greg Maddux being the only people elected to the Hall of Fame in a ten-year period has become imaginable. Therefore, something has to change.


Selena Roberts is now reporting that a source saw Greg Maddux inject himself with horse steroids in the eye after Tom Glavine told him that chicks dig the long ball.

Her story has been corroborated by AL MVP Jose Canseco.

Honestly, I agree with the thesis behind this article. I think we have hit the tipping point in the sense that every new case led to more righteous indignation until this one. If that means we're going to follow a normal distribution curve of swollen, red faces and steam coming out of writers' ears, then Murray Chass will be all alone when Piazza finally comes clean in 2025.
   8. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: May 08, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3170869)
Shawne Merriman says "hi"

Shawne Merriman was not nearly the superstar that Manny Ramirez is.

Call me when the NFL busts Tom Brady for PEDs.
   9. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: May 08, 2009 at 04:18 PM (#3170896)
Call me when the NFL busts Tom Brady for PEDs.


Tom Brady is clean as a whistle.

http://bostonist.com/attachments/boston_caroline/010307-tom-brady.jpg
   10. andrewberg Posted: May 08, 2009 at 04:21 PM (#3170903)
How do you go through the Michigan football program without lifting a weight?
   11. Craig Calcaterra Posted: May 08, 2009 at 04:21 PM (#3170906)
Shawne Merriman says "hi"


I gave him a couple seconds thought, but really, I don't see him in the Manny/A-Rod/Clemens/Bonds realm, do you? He's more like a Hanley Ramirez, no? Really freakin' good, came on like a house of fire, but not too terribly well-known among the masses.
   12. andrewberg Posted: May 08, 2009 at 04:26 PM (#3170916)
I gave him a couple seconds thought, but really, I don't see him in the Manny/A-Rod/Clemens/Bonds realm, do you? He's more like a Hanley Ramirez, no? Really freakin' good, came on like a house of fire, but not too terribly well-known among the masses.


That's a perfect analogy. When I read the Merriman reference, my first thought was "he's more like Hanley Ramirez" because he's a young MVP candidate who has to perform at or near that level for another 7-10 years before anyone whispers "hall of fame." Of course, players turn over much faster at almost every NFL position, so it may be harder to find a comp to the guys you mention, other than a famous QB.
   13. Craig Calcaterra Posted: May 08, 2009 at 04:33 PM (#3170933)
Tomlinson, maybe? T.O.? My NFL-fu is at a lifetime low these days, so other than them and the QBs, I'm having trouble coming up with someone.
   14. ColonelTom Posted: May 08, 2009 at 04:38 PM (#3170942)
How do you go through the Michigan football program without lifting a weight?


That might explain Michigan's performance last season.
   15. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: May 08, 2009 at 04:40 PM (#3170949)
The NFL equivalent to Manny (at this moment) might be Brett Favre on a couple of levels.
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