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Collins is mildly surprising, but Carrigan walked away from the game. He voluntarily left baseball and moved up to Maine, and when the Red Sox initially tried to coax him back he refused. Years later they finally got him to return, but Ruth had changed the game on him during his long absence and his style had become dated. The absence of teams "taking a flyer" on Carrigan had much more to do with his own personal decisions than it did with teams choosing to avoid him. He doesn't really belong in the conversation in this context.
Managers who I thought were fairly successful based on win-loss percentage, but never got another shot: Joe Altobelli, Joe Morgan, Tom Trebelhorn, Cito Gaston, Larry Dierker
And yet Phil Garner and Buddy Bell keep getting jobs.
Especially long ago, however, it wasn't always the case that a manager was fired or otherwise unwanted. Bill Carrigan, the most successful Sox manager before Francona, ran his own business in Maine and quit baseball to attend to it. Jake Stahl's father-in-law was a Chicago banker, and Stahl also left baseball for the business world.
Tom loved working with young players.
I have fond memories of him as well. It's a shame he got bashed in the article.
1982, with Lee Elia. He's famous as the manager who went on a profanity-laden tirade against his team's own fans.
Before then, you have to go back to 1962 for Bob Kennedy.
I forgot Elia, but I was thinking of someone that you didn't -- Joe Amalfitano, 1981. He had managed the ends of the '79 and '80 seasons when Herman Franks quit and Preston Gomez ran out of town, but I thought you weren't counting part seasons.
Partial seasons counted. Originally, the article said Bob Kennedy was the last guy, then after submitting it a couple days ago, I had to reopen and fix it. (I figured I really didn't want to make a boneheaded error in a column promoting the fact that I'm writing a book on managers). This is also why the second Elia comment sounds a bit off; originally it was the first Elia comment.
As a result, I had to delete my favorite line from the article- in 25 years of ownership the Trib Co hasn't been able to uncover an untested manager with the pedigree of Terry Bevington.
Dag, you're getting to be quite the managerial pundit. Keep it up, your writing is fun stuff.
Well, I better be; what with the book and all.
I had the impression that the team initially responded so well to his hiring partly because many of them had enjoyed playing for him in the minors (1974-82 in Pawtucket). What's often forgotten about the late-80's Red Sox is how many of their players were products of their own system. Evans, Rice, Boggs, Burks, Greenwell, Gedman, Barrett, Clemens, Hurst, Boyd... Of those, I'd guess Evans was the only one to predate Morgan's AAA tenure, and maybe 2-3 of them (including Clemens) were there after he was "gone" (to the MLB-level coaching staff).
Other teams wouldn't have had the same benefit.
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