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Does anyone ever use language like that with respect to football players? "Over-inflated clowns?" To mention a name that's been in the news lately, Alan Page played defensive line in the NFL in the 1970's weighing 240 lbs (or maybe even less). Anybody seen a lineman that looks like that lately? Even in college?
I thought baseball's message was those supplements were fine...until they sent out the letter saying "uh, yeah, about that..."?
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=17949492
Because most (not all!) of the people that have problems with steroids only care about certain baseball records being broken and their heroes from their youth being pushed back on the major records lists, OCF. Football stats? Not that concerned, apparently. Besides, football players are supposed to be big, while baseball players are not.
If you're concerned about the legal and medical problems with PED use, then you have to use your bullhorn to blast football players, too. Except even louder.
Nowadays, in college, 240 is a linebacker or really big safety.
NL AB/HR
2008 34
1998 34.5
1988 51
1978 51
1968 61.6
It's so great that baseball is back to normal, now that we've gotten ridden of those freaks who ruined the seasons of 2000, 1961, 1955, and 1930..
they only think of starting to give a shtt about a football player when they do stuff like murder their pregnant gf so as they dont have to pay child support because they forgot to wear a raincoat when they doin her.
or worse, murder helpless doggies by the dozens (but even then you need all the peta people to start screaming about making trouble...)
people LIKE the idea that football players contracts aren't worth the paper they written on and they are seen as disposable as toilet paper. you use them whilst you can then throw em away.
besides people like football players all looking like they roided up. make em more violent and that is just the ticket. don't nobody want to see football players looking like they did back in the 70s. (even though they have guys like keanu reeves and mac davis in football moveis and don't nobody seem to care)
it has to do with fantasy. not just the kind you gamble on i mean. but the kind where males go watch these giant roid machines hit and commit violence on the field and the males watching get to feel all that violence.
but the fantasy with baseball players is watching guys who look like them (fat) or little (eckstein, pedrioa, aaron miles) or tall and skinny (juan pierre) and they get to think - hey, i could go out there and do that. don't males think that about football.
sort of like all yall with your talk about baseball player wives. who look like sluts with blond hair and fake boobs who you picked up in hooters. i don't see none of all yall marrying females like that. and yeh i know most of yall don't make millions but you sure nuff make moren enuf to pick up and marry some slutty looking hooters chick with giant fake boobies
There was a parallel discussion in the Lounge last evening.
The Eagles have tended towards fast, lighter DEs -- Chris Clemons goes about 240 and Trent Cole is in the 250s, I think. Of course they have 2 300 DTs to balance the equation and their LBs are in the 250/260 range.
Maybe if we put a helmet on Romero next year, no one will notice it's him. At least until he strikes someone out and starts flexing and screaming at the top of his lungs.
Come to think of it, maybe that was a warning sign....
Page was a DT. Eller and Marshall were the DEs ... though they may have been larger than Page anyway. And the other DT was ... Bob Larsen??? (Wiki says Gary Larsen -- hell of a cartoonist too! :-)
Page was quick as a cat. Also my favorite football player as a kid.
Light "DEs" aren't really new although they're sometimes labeled outside "LBs" but still do almost nothing but rush the passer.
I played HS football in Oklahoma around 1970 as a lineman, and I've seen the changes. At my school my senior year, the star lineman - a two-way tackle - was about 6-2, 175. I outweighed everyone on the starting line and I was under 200 at the time (I wasn't any good, but that's another issue.) I remember Lucious (sp?) Selmon being something of a cult hero among lineman. He played middle guard (= nose tackle) for the Sooners and he weighed about 205-210. (His younger brothers Dewey and Leroy were bigger.) The one time in my senior year we faced someone who went on to a substantial pro career, the Monday film session before the game was one of the scariest things I remember. His name was Mike Fanning, and he was a GIANT - which I mean he was about 6-6, 235 and no one could block him. He wrestled as well - won all his matches, pinned everyone, even the blobs. Of course he bulked up from there in college and the pros, but I don't think he ever got up to anywhere near 300 (I see him listed as about 255). So the very guy I remember as a giant would be scrawny in today's game - even at the college level.
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